Glenville or Ginn Academy?

So this is wild, totally missed this thread while arguing about Glenville in another thread…


Do we have clarification on what’s really going on at Glenville yet? Are a shred of these rumors even true?
 
Because the kids either live in Glenville’s zone, live outside of CMSD and Glenville is the CMSD HS closest to the residence, or the student lives outside of CMSD and Glenville isn’t the closest CMSD HS and an exception is met allowing the student to play at Glenville. That’s how you get a CB of 0, not necessarily rocket science.

An exception makes them eligible, but does not necessarily mean that they get a 0 CB. Glenville’s reported CB of 0 represents that all players on their team have a residence in Glenville’s geographic boundaries.
 
An exception makes them eligible, but does not necessarily mean that they get a 0 CB. Glenville’s reported CB of 0 represents that all players on their team have a residence in Glenville’s geographic boundaries.
Good thing I don’t work at OHSAA. My son attends GA and plays for Glenville and all I know is I ensure he was compliant and eligible, so thank you for clarification. You could work at OHSAA.
 
Imagine being at this program for all of this trouble just to win a Division IV Championship.

That would be like OSU going all out with NIL and borderline breaking NCAA Violations to win the MAC.

It’s such a joke and everyone’s laughing at Glenville, sad thing is they know this.
 
CMSD has statewide open enrollment. What’s complicated?


Why should Cleveland public schools fund students who live outside of Cleveland taxpayer districts? Makes zero sense! ZERO. Kids living in twinsburg, Willoughby, south Euclid, mayfield, beachwood, shaker , south Euclid, Richmond hts!
Get to be fed and schooled in a Cleveland tax base??!?? And play sports and travel and free hotels. In a big city struggling like every other district. Except those children’s parents send their tax money to those districts schools! Just to win state titles! Seems like an overall losing formula for Cleveland tax payers!
But on another hand the quarterback for Glenville the sophomore Val looks to be legit!
Super bright future for that kid! Will be fun watching him and the whole team next few years.
But with that said zero competitive balance with kids from everywhere , where tax base doesn’t reach Cleveland makes zero sense.
 
Agreed. I hope OHSAA knows this as well.

Very true, that would only bump Glenville up maybe one division. I’m sure coach Ginn would want to be up 2/3 divisions higher. Just not allowed under current rules if ALL STATE KICKER IS CORRECT!
But they need to leave D-4 it’s not competitive for them and against (I think jefferson) Jefferson last year could be safety issue. Jefferson had best team in decades , dream season, but they only had like 28 or so varsity players, going both ways. Playing against many D-1 players. Makes for safety issues to me. If Glenville moved to just D-3
Much more competitive games. Still believe they would eventually run into. Toledo central Catholic and I would pay to see that. Great game!
 
Regardless of any districts open or closed enrollment rules. If you don’t live within the school district you play for, you should have a CB number.
Simple and direct and no sidestepping the rules or loopholes. That number would put Glenville in D-1 where they belong. They would be very competitive and would still be a legit contender.
 
My favorite part of the Glenville discussion is the part where everybody who claims they are cheating on purpose to win state championships also claims they would be competitive in higher divisions. Well Maybe...ah nevermind lol
 
favorite part of the Glenville discussion is the part where everybody who claims they are cheating on purpose to win state championships
Whether its cheating or just incompetence the 0 CB just doesn't hold water. The Glenville posters on the thread are defending the eligibility of out of district students. They are defending the eligibility of out of attendance area students. Makes me think they have actual knowledge of out of district and attendance zone players. Player eligibility could be completely proper and no one should have an issue with that. We are living in the transfer age and its not ending anytime soon.
Seems like alot of work for the super to get player eligibility especially if there are multiples. From reading the rules posted prior, the district super has to petition the executive director with extenuating circumstances for each out of attendance zone player and it states that student cannot play until approval. The 0 CB would mean Glenville has no out of zone or district players. I think most people want honesty more than anything.
 
Imagine being at this program for all of this trouble just to win a Division IV Championship.

That would be like OSU going all out with NIL and borderline breaking NCAA Violations to win the MAC.

It’s such a joke and everyone’s laughing at Glenville, sad thing is they know this.
If Glenville was in Columbus youd be on your knees 🤣 😂.
 
Goes back to what i said earlier. When Ursuline StV Mooney Hoban TCC win title after title with low enrollment teams as loaded or more as this Glenville team nobody bats an eye cuz they are supposed to be loaded. But a public school isn’t. They’re upsetting the apple cart. Lets see them win 4 in a row or 6 out 8 heads would explode and picket lines in front of OHSAA. Lol.
 
Imagine being at this program for all of this trouble just to win a Division IV Championship.

That would be like OSU going all out with NIL and borderline breaking NCAA Violations to win the MAC.

It’s such a joke and everyone’s laughing at Glenville, sad thing is they know this.
People are laughing at a high school football team that consistently sends to college for free. Lord willing these same people are laughing at my son in a few years!
 
My thoughts: I think we view public schools that attract talent more negatively than private schools, from the OHSAA down to fans. It is as if one is understandable, natural, acceptable, and one is duplicitous and unfair. Part of it I think is the majority (or significanty more) private schools operate this way, but only a much smaller number of public schools "attract" talent and can consistently compete anywhere near that level. You can pretty much count on one hand: Glenville, Massillon, Winton Woods, maybe Steubenville, who else? Therefore they must me doing something wrong because most public schools do not have noticeable CB scores or more that a few "known" transfers here and there.

In summary, I say more power to Glenville. More power to public schools. And otherwise boo, hoo.
None of the other public schools you mentioned have a CB of ZERO. The private schools also have the highest CB numbers yet Glenville’s CB is ZERO….. how is that possible?
 
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