Dover football 2025

Doc19 said:
Well with the all of the chatter, I am not sure how some couldn't do a better job. Most have not coached, but I am curious what their defense might've given up. By the way I have no dog in this fight.
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Well I would expect the people doing the hiring to know that giving up ans average of 23ppg in 3 years isn't a good thing.

But no Dover admins don't think that way they think where did you come from, last name or social status.
 
Lets_B_Real said:
Holding people to higher standards isn't tearing people down. It's making them accountable for there actions that means players coaches AD Superintendent board members.

The last 3 years Rees has been the DC outside of 2020. He's given up 23 points per game and if anyone thinks thats a good number is out of there mind.

All it tells me is Dover is okay with being okay.

I want Dover to do well and i hope im completely wrong but I have serious doubts that it will happen with the hire they are probably going to make.
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Gardner is someone you mentioned as a finalist or someone in your camp did. In those same years he was HC there, they averaged giving up 21.58 points per game. Not much difference from 23. Now, I believe he was the OC while being the HC and I know they could score it. When looking at some of the Dover scores in the same time frame, there were plenty of games where Dover couldn't score 21+ which usually gives you a good chance to win the game. If I knew of other candidates who were in the finals I would run their stats as well just to compare. Honestly, I would like to know the average of points given up per game by high school football programs across the state.

The question comes down to this, will the kids come out and play and buy in? Can they be physical and disciplined? I think the switch to the OCC is great, because I think it sets the table to some tough games but others that are winnable yearly.

Anyway, all I am saying is give the guy a chance to not sow division amongst the kids... if that happens, you could have Vince Lombardi as your HC and it won't make a difference. Communities who continually support their coaches in public and at home tend to have continued success. It would be a shame for Dover not to continue to put out quality football teams because people are upset their preferred candidate didn't get the job or that they are taking out frustrations with the admin on the coach that was hired by them.

I hate cancel culture and if people are already, and it appears on here they are, canceling the program because of the hire, then the program doesn't stand a chance to be successful.

However, I understand the frustration with perceived nepotism and the fact that the Super and AD are married (I can see that possibly being problematic). I have always admired the Dover program with its consistentcy to field competitive teams. Not many places can do that. I would hate to see it decline because of infighting over a coaching hire.
 
Mvp1980 said:
Matt can’t coach a Defense let alone a high school team. He’s a kisser that’s how he got the job. How he was most qualified is freaking crazy. The AD needed a puppet someone they can control.

Ask around to local ADs no one likes Dover’s AD. I don’t know the man but after this hire I’m not sure anyone in Dover likes him. I was told the AD and supper think they are untouchable. Time for a board change so the AD and supper can start getting the clamps put on them.

As for Gardner being the Oc. If I was him I would say thanks but no thanks. Let him go get a job some other place and make Dover regret not hiring him. Why go bail out the fool that got the Job?

Dover did nothing but waste time to please the public. His was the pick 3-5 years in the making. I see a big drop off coming in Dover Football!!
Just watch how the guy coached Defensively. Looked like they were playing 2-hand tap
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Pretty good at trash talking behind a secret name.
 
Mvp1980 said:
Matt can’t coach a Defense let alone a high school team. He’s a kisser that’s how he got the job. How he was most qualified is freaking crazy. The AD needed a puppet someone they can control.

Ask around to local ADs no one likes Dover’s AD. I don’t know the man but after this hire I’m not sure anyone in Dover likes him. I was told the AD and supper think they are untouchable. Time for a board change so the AD and supper can start getting the clamps put on them.

As for Gardner being the Oc. If I was him I would say thanks but no thanks. Let him go get a job some other place and make Dover regret not hiring him. Why go bail out the fool that got the Job?

Dover did nothing but waste time to please the public. His was the pick 3-5 years in the making. I see a big drop off coming in Dover Football!!
Just watch how the guy coached Defensively. Looked like they were playing 2-hand tap
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Give him a chance at HC !!
 
Lets_B_Real said:
Well I would expect the people doing the hiring to know that giving up ans average of 23ppg in 3 years isn't a good thing.

But no Dover admins don't think that way they think where did you come from, last name or social status.
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Not sure if it was bad math or just a blatant attempt to spin. The real numbers for the defense,
2022 15.4
2023 19.9
2024 23.23

Keep in mind Dover had massive injuries in 2024 and 2023.
 
Doverbuck1 said:
Not sure if it was bad math or just a blatant attempt to spin. The real numbers for the defense,
2022 15.4
2023 19.9
2024 23.23

Keep in mind Dover had massive injuries in 2024 and 2023.
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Injuries were a huge reason…. Let’s look at the big picture.
Anyone that knows Matt knows that he’s dedicated to the program. If he’s our guy…. We need to be dedicated in supporting him and his coaching staff.
 
SportFanatic123 said:
Nobody is saying not to give him a chance.. I think what people are trying to get across here is that there really isn’t a “process” of them finding one.. they knew who they wanted as soon as Dan retired
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Got that right. If it’s suppose to go the the most qualified, they sure dropped the ball on this one.
 
Doverbuck1 said:
Not sure if it was bad math or just a blatant attempt to spin. The real numbers for the defense,
2022 15.4
2023 19.9
2024 23.23

Keep in mind Dover had massive injuries in 2024 and 2023.
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I should of explained more i was taking 2019 2023 and 2024. 2020 was a messed up year for everyone no need to use that but if you wanted to its 27ppg. 2021 and 2022 Wakefield was the DC. But just did the math again and 2023 was 21ppg not 19ppg.
 
Here's the point of all of it. There were definitely qualified individuals that had a track record. One himself was a Doverite and a proven winner. We all have the right to voice our opinion on the topic and can agree/disagree. One thing I do know is we will support our coach no matter who it is and until it's proven he is not worthy of the job we will whole heartedly support him whether we like the decision or not. I'm definitely not in the Rees camp, but I will support him until he proves he was a bad choice. Maybe he'll adapt and be a better HC than he was a coordinator. Let's all just hope whoever it is it all works out for the good!
 
manofthefall said:
Here's the point of all of it. There were definitely qualified individuals that had a track record. One himself was a Doverite and a proven winner. We all have the right to voice our opinion on the topic and can agree/disagree. One thing I do know is we will support our coach no matter who it is and until it's proven he is not worthy of the job we will whole heartedly support him whether we like the decision or not. I'm definitely not in the Rees camp, but I will support him until he proves he was a bad choice. Maybe he'll adapt and be a better HC than he was a coordinator. Let's all just hope whoever it is it all works out for the good!
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This is the exact point that everyone including myself are trying to make. That there were more qualified candidates but because how the Dover system is ran they are going with the easy choice.

Yes I agree everyone should support the coach once that decision is made but we all can have our opinions are whether he's the right candidate or not. I'm not a fan of the hire at all but that doesn't mean I don't want Dover to go 0-10.

At this point once they announce it and it is Rees it will be prove me and other people on here wrong that you were the best candidate.
 
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We'll see how everything goes. I'll always be a Dover fan and I agree with what people have said on here. We will support him as coach. That being said there was better candidates for the job. But we all know who are from Dover that Dover likes to hire Dover people. And in the past that has hurt us. Hopefully everything turns out great and we dont gotta worry about finding another coach in a couple years.
 
DoverTornadoFan said:
We'll see how everything goes. I'll always be a Dover fan and I agree with what people have said on here. We will support him as coach. That being said there was better candidates for the job. But we all know who are from Dover that Dover likes to hire Dover people. And in the past that has hurt us. Hopefully everything turns out great and we dont gotta worry about finding another coach in a couple years.
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Not disagreeing with you, but I’ve seen this (Dover hiring Dover people) mentioned a handful of times- what exactly is this referring to? There have only been two football head coaching hires in the last 30 years, and the other was Ifft from Massillon Perry. Is everyone referring to assistant coach hires? Other sport head coaches? I really don’t think this is a systemic issue or anything.
 
Like someone said before. They wanted someone they could control. They tried to hire his ast coaches already by asking Miller and Gardner to be Ast coaches. 1. The head coach should pick him own staff. 2. They know he’s going to fail so they are trying to hire great ast around him.

Both should have told the AD to go pound Salt. Sit back and watch the ship sink.

Wonder if Dover will now go to 7 on 7 in middle school.. Or start playing two hand tap
 
Pipe dream said:
Like someone said before. They wanted someone they could control. They tried to hire his ast coaches already by asking Miller and Gardner to be Ast coaches. 1. The head coach should pick him own staff. 2. They know he’s going to fail so they are trying to hire great ast around him.

Both should have told the AD to go pound Salt. Sit back and watch the ship sink.

Wonder if Dover will now go to 7 on 7 in middle school.. Or start playing two hand tap
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All of the assistant coaches were asked to resign. From 7 th and up so the new coach could hire who he wanted
 
Lets_B_Real said:
This is the exact point that everyone including myself are trying to make. That there were more qualified candidates but because how the Dover system is ran they are going with the easy choice.

Yes I agree everyone should support the coach once that decision is made but we all can have our opinions are whether he's the right candidate or not. I'm not a fan of the hire at all but that doesn't mean I don't want Dover to go 0-10.

At this point once they announce it and it is Rees it will be prove me and other people on here wrong that you were the best candidate.
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Please name the other candidates
 
Lets_B_Real said:
1.) family donates money to the school/sport
2.) if you were in the upper social class (popular, family has been Dover family for decades)
3.) successful athlete in football and basketball

Also yes like sport fanatic said the AD and the Superintendent are married and if that's not a conflict of intrest I don't know what is.
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In addition to the Super./AD issue…

Also, now the varsity fb coach and head cheerleading advisor married…no?

Bball coach retires and son takes over.

I’m an implant to the community…so still a bit of an outsiders’ view. Feels like after 30 years and a program kind of peaking; an outside hire was the way to go. Don’t know anything about him outside of his performance as a DC. All I’ll say is talking to one parent of a kid on the team during the process…all I was told was “we just hope it isn’t Rees.”

Maybe he makes some solid assistant hires.

Hope it works out.
 
Pipe dream said:
Like someone said before. They wanted someone they could control. They tried to hire his ast coaches already by asking Miller and Gardner to be Ast coaches. 1. The head coach should pick him own staff. 2. They know he’s going to fail so they are trying to hire great ast around him.

Both should have told the AD to go pound Salt. Sit back and watch the ship sink.

Wonder if Dover will now go to 7 on 7 in middle school.. Or start playing two hand tap
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I would like to see evidence of the admin asking them to be assistants.

also, why was Gardner not renewed at West Holmes, I believe he still teaches there.

Look, either way, I think that this leaves the door open for a few people here who seem to know what should be done to try and get on staff and make sure that its successful. Unless people are petty and would rather route for people to fail just to say they were right. What a sad existence that must be. (this is a general statement, not directed at Pipe Dream)

I'll be honest, if any administrator called a candidate and told them they weren't getting the job because they couldn't control them, then they are dumbest human beings in an administrative role ever. It doesn't seem plausible.
 
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