Captain_Cavman
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I know I am being knit picky but is a Block O hand gesture after a long td catch unsportsmanlike? To who, and by what definition? Fwiw was by an OSU commit.
Just wondering if/how the rule is stated, or whether largely subjective?
In the college game today, there was a strange play that they let stand as called on the field. Curious what the rule would be in High School:
Wide receiver and defensive back go up for the ball. As they come down, there is jostling for the ball. Neither has taken full possession of the ball but it never hits the ground. The offensive player gets both feet in bounds and then lands with part of his body out of bounds as they continue to wrestle. Defensive player ultimately wrestles the ball away and is fully in bounds.
Is this incomplete because neither had full possession before one of them was out of bounds? Offensive reception because of simultaneous possession? Interception because the defensive player ultimately possessed the ball?
On a kick off or punt, one player on the receiving team calls for a fair catch but it is caught by a different player on the return team.
Is this a penalty or is it permissible to call fair catch for your teammate?
And only the player who signaled fair catch gets protection.It's legal. The player who called the fair catch may not block however.
Not a penalty, and sort of. If I signal fair catch I get protection, and if I catch it, it's a fair catch. If I signal fair catch and you catch it, it is not a fair catch and you do not get protection, but the ball is immediately dead anyways because of my signal.On a kick off or punt, one player on the receiving team calls for a fair catch but it is caught by a different player on the return team.
Is this a penalty or is it permissible to call fair catch for your teammate?
So if I signal a fair catch and my teammate catches it he can be drilled as long as it is before the whistle?Not a penalty, and sort of. If I signal fair catch I get protection, and if I catch it, it's a fair catch. If I signal fair catch and you catch it, it is not a fair catch and you do not get protection, but the ball is immediately dead anyways because of my signal.
Also, if it is a fair catch, R can ask to spot the ball anywhere between the hashmarks, and put the ball in play by snap or free kick.
So there is a lot going on.
Thanks!!!The Free Blocking Zone is defined under Rule 2-17
ART. 1 . . . The free-blocking zone is a rectangular area extending laterally 4 yards either side of the spot of the snap and 3 yards behind each line of scrimmage. A player is in the free-blocking zone when any part of his body is in the zone at the snap.
ART. 2 . . . Blocking below the waist is permitted in the free-blocking zone when the following conditions are met:
a. All players involved in the blocking are on the line of scrimmage and in the zone at the snap.
b. The contact is in the zone.
ART. 3 . . . Blocking in the back is permitted in the free-blocking zone when the following conditions are met:
a. By offensive linemen who are on the line of scrimmage and in the zone at the snap.
b. Against defensive players who are in the zone at the snap.
c. The contact is in the zone.
ART. 4 . . . The free-blocking zone disintegrates and the exception for a player to block below the waist and/or the exception for an offensive lineman to block in the back is not to continue after the ball has left the zone.
As noted in Article 4, once the ball has left the zone (shotgun snap) the zone and the exceptions to blocking below the waist and in the back are no longer in effect.
In general, tackle-to-tackle is the rule of thumb. There are teams that employ blocking schemes with every large splits that place the tackles outside the FBZ.
In the instance of a shotgun snap, any block below the waist must be immediate, as by nature of the play, any delay in the block is certain to occur after the ball has left the FBZ.
He can be tackled just like any other punt or kick returner who does not signal for a fair catch. By rule though your teammate is a defenseless player and every part of the "drilling" must be legal contact.So if I signal a fair catch and my teammate catches it he can be drilled as long as it is before the whistle?
So if I signal a fair catch and my teammate catches it he can be drilled as long as it is before the whistle?
He can be tackled just like any other punt or kick returner who does not signal for a fair catch. By rule though your teammate is a defenseless player and every part of the "drilling" must be legal contact.
Another clarification on a kickoff.
If a kickoff is kicked high in the air but only medium deep. High enough that the kickoff team has time to run down and catch it in the air.
Is that legal after 10 yards or does the ball have to hit the ground first given that the receiving team has to have the chance to catch a ball in the air first?
The rule for being on the line is 2.32: ART. 9 . . .A lineman is any A player who is facing his opponent’s goal line with the line of his shoulders approximately parallel thereto and withhis head or foot breaking an imaginary plane drawn parallel to the line of scrimmage through the waist of the snapper when the ball is snapped.5 players in the backfield was called on this muddle huddle 2 pt conversion:View attachment 4769
I apologize, Nelsonville tv cable’s instant replay cameras were out of commission Friday night.Again, this still picture, like all still pictures, captures a split second in time. It tells us nothing.
We cannot judge anything from this.
I apologize, Nelsonville tv cable’s instant replay cameras were out of commission Friday night.
Pitch left to the rb, lone wideout to the left blocks, snapper who’s shoulders were not parallel with los only snaps the ball, line to the right and #20moves towards the snapper by the time the rb crosses the line.
Looks like now after reading Reggie’s comment above the line was too far back, the end guy should of set the other 5 linemen with the line judge. They snapped it quickly thinking they were set trying to catch the late defender coming in while in the neutral zone. The offense didn’t get that call, couldn’t tell in the replay if the defender made it across in time. Lots of stuff going on during the play.
And while this does not address whether or not there were 5 players in the backfield at the snap, what you described is an illegal snap due to the positioning of the snapper's shoulders.
Dead ball foul for an illegal snap and nothing
else that happened is relevant.
What rule specifies the position of the snapper’s shoulders?
Btw, appreciate the feedback, just trying to understand this call on the field better.
Rule 2-32-14
ART. 14 . . . A snapper is the player who is facing his opponent's goal line with his shoulders approximately parallel thereto and who snaps the ball. In a scrimmage-kick formation, the snapper remains a snapper until he has had a reasonable opportunity to regain his balance and protect himself or until he blocks or moves to otherwise participate in the play.
These are good questions and the exact reason why Yappi created this forum.
Why is it not a rule that HS fields MUST have a play . I see big moneymaking programs that do not.
Seems like Home team never gets a delay of game while visitors do
Why is it not a rule that HS fields MUST have a play . I see big moneymaking programs that do not.
Seems like Home team never gets a delay of game while visitors do