top ten greater cincinnati? (records)
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Graham ran 55.9 hand-timed to win State in 1980. This is inferior to the city record 55.78 auto run by Stevonne Spivery of Withrow at Regional in 2000.
skins99
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thank you, i stand corrected. years of rum and women of loose moral standing are wearing out my brain cells.
Looks like the pole vault lists need to be updated. The meet record for both boys and girls were broken today at the Elk Relays with marks that put them on the top ten Cincinnati list:
Dan Garrett, Kings 15' 3"
Ali Rice, Mason 10' 6"
That puts Dan tied for 6th on the boys list and Ali tied for 5th on the girls list.
Dan Garrett, Kings 15' 3"
Ali Rice, Mason 10' 6"
That puts Dan tied for 6th on the boys list and Ali tied for 5th on the girls list.
skins99
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page 17 has the shot list. you move from 6th to fifth. 60-11 is the next mark to gun for.
We need a year and/or meet. I'm a bit skeptical about this one. I perused 85-89 and didn't much except for one kid who jumped 22-4 or so.
skins99
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Ill talk with him on wednesday. He is an ohsaa offical and retired coach so he seems to a be credible.
Lancermania
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Seek Up and I put our hearts and souls into researching this list. Every mark listed has been verified and checked for accuracy. We do not want to list any mark that cannot be verified. I've had coaches tell me about other marks that could not be found, so they are not listed.
skins99
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Ill ask for verification via meet or at least year and distance.
Lancermania
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A year and distance is not good enough. We have to be able to find it on micorfilm or from a meet result.
Vinnie Clark is not listed in 1987 on the Enquier's final honor roll of 5-20-1987. Bryant of CAPE is show with the leading mark of 22'4".
Clark is down for the 200 and we have him on our 200 list. He won the regional at 21.96. He was not a state qualifier in the long jump, 4th place at the region was John Macllwaine of Dayton Oakwood at 21'6¼".
Clark is not shown as making the Enquirer's all city team in the long jump his senior year. He does not even get an honorable mention. Anyone jumping over 23' would be there. Clark is not.
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skins99
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ill get information and check microfilm
Attention all SLIMS members: As many of you know, the top 10 lists are posted on Mark Gerstner's web site that is sponsored by Bob Roncker. That's the good news. The bad news is the lists have not been updated to include performances from the 2006 & 2007 seasons. Mark has informed me he will make the necessary changes if we get them to him. There will not be a ton of changes, but I think we should submit them all at one time. How do you all want to go about gathering and submitting the information?
Lancermania
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Let's do it the same way we compiled the original list. Start putting feedback here until we are sure we have all the athletes. I'll start with Posey. His 400 time of 47.81 places him third
3. 47.81, 2007, Devier Posey, La Salle, Regional Finals, 2nd.
Here is what the revised list should look like:
400 Meter Run FAT
1. 47.24, 2002, Cedric Powell, Roger Bacon, Roosevelt, 2nd
2. 47.44, 1984, Leroy Williams, Greenhills, State, 1st
3. 47.81, 2007, Devier Posey, La Salle, Regional, 2nd
4. 48.04, 1992, Jason Williams, Princeton, GMC, 1st
5. 48.05, 1991, Tyrone Brown, Withrow, State, 2nd
6. 48.14, 1980, Eric Blaine, Wyoming, State, 1st
7. 48.34, 1973, Jim Schnur, Oak Hills, State, 1st
8. 48.34, 1978, Lee Thomas, Princeton, Regional, 2nd
9. 48.64, 1976, Brian England, Princeton, GMC, 1st
10. 48.66, 2000, Jonathan Mullins-Hall, Hughes, State, Prelim
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Lancermania
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Seek Up is trying to say we can't put Posey's 200 time of 21.78 because the wind reading is over the allowable maximum. I say if you're going to hold Posey to that standard, you have to take everyone else off the 100, 200, 110 hurdles, and 300 hurdles where you can't verify the wind reading to prove it was legal. I'm calling for a vote on this matter. All SLIMS members are hereby called to vote if Posey's 21.78 time should be allowed. Seek UP says the maxiumum allowed is 2.0 but the reading was 2.9 at the time of the race.
Seek Up - No
Lancermania - Yes
impartial observer - ?
skins99 -?
moemanxc -?
Seek Up - No
Lancermania - Yes
impartial observer - ?
skins99 -?
moemanxc -?
don't forget about the long jump
It's fine to do it this way to compile, but Mark will want just the changes (I know - details, details).
Off the top of my head, we've got a Kings pole vaulter, the Glen Este shot putter, Winton Woods 4x200 last year and 4x400 this year (bye-bye St. X's city record in the 1600 relay), Lakota East in the 3200 relay, and maybe Princeton's 4x100 this year?? What about William Johnson in the 800m? I assume his NON time will go on the list before his state time?
Lancermania
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We have to do it this way to get feedback from all members. If they don't want to respond, that's fine. Let's set a timetable to get Mark the updates. We have to wait at least two weeks, one week for the state meet and one week for the National meets in California and North Carolina that follow. I'm suggesting July 1, 2007 to the deadline to make changes. If you recall, I also have a blog on the internet with the marks and have gotten feedback from that site.
Lancermania
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La Salle ran 1:28.83 in the 2007 regional prelims that would put them 6th on the 4 X 200m relay list. Winton Woods 2006 (1:29.07 at the regional finals), St Xavier 2006 (1:29.09 regional prelims) and La Salle 2006 (1:29.10 at regional finals) just miss the cutoff which is now 1:29.04 after putting La Salle 2007 on the list: Here is the updated list:
Mark Year Name Name Name Name School Location/Place
1 1:28.14, 1978, Jeff Roberson Greg Kunkel Orlando Harris Brian Hamilton, Colerain, Regional, 1st
2 1:28.34, 1977, Jeff Roberson Steve Olden Greg Kunkel Tony Robertson, Colerain, Regional, Prelims
2 1:28.34, 1970, Frank Sands Jr. David Luke Steve Harris Ron McKenzie, Purcell, State, 3rd
4 1:28.47, 2005, Dan Magness Brian Edwards Brayden Coombs Terrance Sherrer, Colerain, State, 4th
5 1:28.68, 2004, Everett Johnson Brayden Coombs Erick Fitzpatrick Brian Edwards, Colerain, Regional, 1st
6. 1:28.83, 2007, Isaac Green, Devier Posey, Nate Jones, Andre Cole, La Salle, Regional, Prelim
7 1:28.84, 2004, LaTarro Mitchell Alex Baker Scott Linz Matt Spotts, St. Xavier, Jesse Owens Classic, 1st
8 1:28.88, 2005 John Tye E.J. Morton-Green Eric Finnell Gyasi Parrish Princeton State 5th
9 1:28.94 1977 Ron Crawford Donald Tucker Arnold Homan Ross Withrow Regional 1st
10 1:29.04, 1988, Mario Allmon Craig Thompson Carlos Britton John McFadden, Princeton, Volunteer Classic, 1st
Mark Year Name Name Name Name School Location/Place
1 1:28.14, 1978, Jeff Roberson Greg Kunkel Orlando Harris Brian Hamilton, Colerain, Regional, 1st
2 1:28.34, 1977, Jeff Roberson Steve Olden Greg Kunkel Tony Robertson, Colerain, Regional, Prelims
2 1:28.34, 1970, Frank Sands Jr. David Luke Steve Harris Ron McKenzie, Purcell, State, 3rd
4 1:28.47, 2005, Dan Magness Brian Edwards Brayden Coombs Terrance Sherrer, Colerain, State, 4th
5 1:28.68, 2004, Everett Johnson Brayden Coombs Erick Fitzpatrick Brian Edwards, Colerain, Regional, 1st
6. 1:28.83, 2007, Isaac Green, Devier Posey, Nate Jones, Andre Cole, La Salle, Regional, Prelim
7 1:28.84, 2004, LaTarro Mitchell Alex Baker Scott Linz Matt Spotts, St. Xavier, Jesse Owens Classic, 1st
8 1:28.88, 2005 John Tye E.J. Morton-Green Eric Finnell Gyasi Parrish Princeton State 5th
9 1:28.94 1977 Ron Crawford Donald Tucker Arnold Homan Ross Withrow Regional 1st
10 1:29.04, 1988, Mario Allmon Craig Thompson Carlos Britton John McFadden, Princeton, Volunteer Classic, 1st
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Lancermania
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I'm not sure what you mean by NON time, but his state meet time goes on the list 4th. Here is the updated list:
Time Year Name School Location/Place
1. 1:51.76, 1992, Jason Williams, Princeton, State, 1st
2. 1:52.06, 1969, Reggie McAfee, Courter Tech, State, 1st
3. 1:52.69, 1998, B.J. Cotter, St. Xavier, State, 2nd
4. 1:52.82, 2006, William Johnson, Lakota East, State, 1st
5. 1:52.97, 2000, Kyle Schreiner, St. Xavier, Regional, 1st
6. 1:53.39, 1988, Jason Hauer, Mt. Healthy, Regional, 2nd
7. 1:53.44, 1998, Chris Hoeffer, LaSalle, District, 1st
8. 1:53.46, 1984, Jim Hedrick, Lakota State, 6th
9. 1:53.48, 1986, Ty Olverson, Princeton, State, 6th
10. 1:53.80, 1985, Mike Borellis, Greenhills, State, 5th
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Dan Garrett of Kings went 15'3" in the pole vault at the Centerville Relays on 3-24-2007. He now moves into a tie for 6th
Mark Year Name School Location/Place
1. 15'10", 2003, Tim Roa, Elder, GCL Championships, 1st
2. 15'9", 2002, John Russell, Princeton, AOC National
3. 15'7", 2001, Brent Walter, Moeller, Roosevelt Invitational, 2nd
3. 15'7", 2001, Chris Smith, Princeton, Roosevelt Invitational, 1st
5. 15'6", 1999, Drew Walter, Moeller, State Championships
6. 15'3", 2005, Eric Keyes, Princeton, Midwest Meet of Champions
6. 15'3", 1995, Jake Andreadis, Anderson, Regional Championships
6. 15''3", 2007, Daniel Garrett, Kings, Centerville Relays
9. 15'2", 1994, Ben Novak, Turpin, Queen City American Conference, 1st
10. 15'1", 1966, David Rimmer, Mt. Healthy, State Championships, 1st
10. 15'1", 2006, Pat Tenbrink, LaSalle, Roosevelt, 1st
Mark Year Name School Location/Place
1. 15'10", 2003, Tim Roa, Elder, GCL Championships, 1st
2. 15'9", 2002, John Russell, Princeton, AOC National
3. 15'7", 2001, Brent Walter, Moeller, Roosevelt Invitational, 2nd
3. 15'7", 2001, Chris Smith, Princeton, Roosevelt Invitational, 1st
5. 15'6", 1999, Drew Walter, Moeller, State Championships
6. 15'3", 2005, Eric Keyes, Princeton, Midwest Meet of Champions
6. 15'3", 1995, Jake Andreadis, Anderson, Regional Championships
6. 15''3", 2007, Daniel Garrett, Kings, Centerville Relays
9. 15'2", 1994, Ben Novak, Turpin, Queen City American Conference, 1st
10. 15'1", 1966, David Rimmer, Mt. Healthy, State Championships, 1st
10. 15'1", 2006, Pat Tenbrink, LaSalle, Roosevelt, 1st
By NON time I mean his time at Nike Outdoor Nationals last year. To wit:
9 Johnson, William 06 Lakota East HS,West 1:52.24
This slides him up to 3rd, no longer sandwiched between the X boys.
Lancermania
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Thanks for the update, Seek Up. That is one of the meets the SLIMS Committee has been accepting for our list. Here is the updated list:
Time Year Name School Location/Place
1. 1:51.76, 1992, Jason Williams, Princeton, State, 1st
2. 1:52.06, 1969, Reggie McAfee, Courter Tech, State, 1st
3. 1:52.24, 2006, William Johnson, Lakota East, Nike Outdoor Nationals, 9th
4. 1:52.69, 1998, B.J. Cotter, St. Xavier, State, 2nd
5. 1:52.97, 2000, Kyle Schreiner, St. Xavier, Regional, 1st
6. 1:53.39, 1988, Jason Hauer, Mt. Healthy, Regional, 2nd
7. 1:53.44, 1998, Chris Hoeffer, LaSalle, District, 1st
8. 1:53.46, 1984, Jim Hedrick, Lakota State, 6th
9. 1:53.48, 1986, Ty Olverson, Princeton, State, 6th
10. 1:53.80, 1985, Mike Borellis, Greenhills, State, 5th
Time Year Name School Location/Place
1. 1:51.76, 1992, Jason Williams, Princeton, State, 1st
2. 1:52.06, 1969, Reggie McAfee, Courter Tech, State, 1st
3. 1:52.24, 2006, William Johnson, Lakota East, Nike Outdoor Nationals, 9th
4. 1:52.69, 1998, B.J. Cotter, St. Xavier, State, 2nd
5. 1:52.97, 2000, Kyle Schreiner, St. Xavier, Regional, 1st
6. 1:53.39, 1988, Jason Hauer, Mt. Healthy, Regional, 2nd
7. 1:53.44, 1998, Chris Hoeffer, LaSalle, District, 1st
8. 1:53.46, 1984, Jim Hedrick, Lakota State, 6th
9. 1:53.48, 1986, Ty Olverson, Princeton, State, 6th
10. 1:53.80, 1985, Mike Borellis, Greenhills, State, 5th
Alright guys sorry it has taken me so long to respond. It has been a while since we've had stuff to talk about. As far as the wind reading is going, there are many meets that do not have wind reading even when they have automatic timing. I would have to suggest that we include records with no wind reading, just because if we didn't so many of these times would get wiped away. If someone makes the list on a run or jump that is over legal wind, that we include them with an asterisk, much like the state tournament did for ginn's 13.26 at the state meet in 04. Put them as a sub time for the place at which they'd be. So for example:
3. Person A 13.44 110m hurdles
-3a. Person B 13.44WA 110m hurdles
3. Person A 13.44 110m hurdles
-3a. Person B 13.44WA 110m hurdles
Lancermania
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Chambers from Glen Este is saying he threw 60'9" at New Richmond. I can't find any results to verify it. Was that an Invitational meet or what was it?
Lancermania
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This is a possible compromise with Seek Up insistence on keeping them off. In the State Tournament Top Ten list in the program from 1995, I found a mark from Carmen Banks listed second at 13.94 followed by WA in 100 meter hurdles.
My proposal is to put the mark on the lists followed by e.g. WA(2.9) and the wind reading in parenthesis. Then we put a note at the end of the list explained the WA and what it means.
skins99
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Contact the favc commish. they list it on their website. They were at the New Richmond Relays 4/17/2007
Lancermania
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Anyone know if the timing used at the FAVC league meet was FAT. Winton Woods is shown running a 1:28.66. If not, that makes their time 1:28.94. Either way it's good enough for the top ten.