top ten greater cincinnati? (records)

skins99 said:
Serious question. Looking at the top 25 on the track association website they have a tie for 800 meters at 1:54.31. Should Sean Batt from Anderson be included with his 2013 state finals time of 1:54.318 which has been rounded up to 1:54.32?

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It will be a moot point as James Schmidt ran 1:53 point during the season and will replace Cooper and Burton. I am assuming they both ran 1:54.30x at state and it was rounded to 1:54.31.
 
Seek Up said:
It will be a moot point as James Schmidt ran 1:53 point during the season and will replace Cooper and Burton. I am assuming they both ran 1:54.30x at state and it was rounded to 1:54.31.
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Seek Up said:
It will be a moot point as James Schmidt ran 1:53 point during the season and will replace Cooper and Burton. I am assuming they both ran 1:54.30x at state and it was rounded to 1:54.31.
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Excellent point for its a moot point. Just thinking out loud.
 
VFL suggested going to a top 50, and now I am on board with his suggestion. The state meet program I bought at this year's meet said this was the 47th meet for the girls, so we hare close to 50 years for them. When this project began we started with ten, then went to 25, now let's go for 50. Two members of the original SLIMS COMMITTEE are gone. We only have skins99, Lancermania, and Seek Up left. I'm suggesting those two vacant spots be filled with Lane4 and Javman83.
 
Lancermania said:
VFL suggested going to a top 50, and now I am on board with his suggestion. The state meet program I bought at this year's meet said this was the 47th meet for the girls, so we hare close to 50 years for them. When this project began we started with ten, then went to 25, now let's go for 50. Two members of the original SLIMS COMMITTEE are gone. We only have skins99, Lancermania, and Seek Up left. I'm suggesting those two vacant spots be filled with Lane4 and Javman83.
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If I can be of help, I'm willing. My lists, as everyone knows, always went much deeper than top 25. The only thing is, I haven't kept up with the Cincinnati scene except for how they apply to the state top 50. Is this an immediate request? Or something for the beginning of next season?
 
JAVMAN83 said:
If I can be of help, I'm willing. My lists, as everyone knows, always went much deeper than top 25. The only thing is, I haven't kept up with the Cincinnati scene except for how they apply to the state top 50. Is this an immediate request? Or something for the beginning of next season?
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Major Update:

As I'm working to finish up the Ohio All-Time lists for Outdoor & Indoor in 2024, those will become just a yearly maintenance issue. In recognition of that, I'm re-focusing all-time lists developments back to not only the Cincinnati-area schools, but have now begun the slow build of the Dayton-area schools as well. This was suggested to me years ago by a famous Cincinnati coach that once was a stand-out coach @ Trotwood-Madison of 50 years ago. Dayton schools used to rule the Dayton regionals before the decimation of the manufacturing base during the 70s-90s. Proper attention to their all-time lists have never been given the attention they're due.

So, could I get a fresh reminder as to the criteria for inclusion in the Cincinnati-area lists? My memory seems to recall these three (3) items for inclusion: 1) School residing within 30 miles of downtown Cincinnati, 2) school historically has competed in Cincinnati districts (Mason, Ross, New Richmond) throughout the majority of their history, and 3) school competes in a conference historically recognized as comprising Cincinnati-area based schools. If my memory is incorrect, I would appreciate being set straight. I plan to apply the same criteria to Dayton-area lists. In addition, I wish to build a database of "county" records for Southwest Ohio that include the following counties: Hamilton, Butler, Warren, Clermont, Brown, Clinton, Greene, Clark, Miami, Darke, Preble, and Montgomery counties. All of this list building will most likely take another 2-4 years to accomplish given my work load, but I'd like to leave these efforts for a future historian in good shape once I'm through.

Thanks so much to the community at large, and especially to Lancermania, SeekUp, and others who have built the Cincinnati lists over the past 15-20 years.
 
JAVMAN83 said:
Major Update:

As I'm working to finish up the Ohio All-Time lists for Outdoor & Indoor in 2024, those will become just a yearly maintenance issue. In recognition of that, I'm re-focusing all-time lists developments back to not only the Cincinnati-area schools, but have now begun the slow build of the Dayton-area schools as well. This was suggested to me years ago by a famous Cincinnati coach that once was a stand-out coach @ Trotwood-Madison of 50 years ago. Dayton schools used to rule the Dayton regionals before the decimation of the manufacturing base during the 70s-90s. Proper attention to their all-time lists have never been given the attention they're due.

So, could I get a fresh reminder as to the criteria for inclusion in the Cincinnati-area lists? My memory seems to recall these three (3) items for inclusion: 1) School residing within 30 miles of downtown Cincinnati, 2) school historically has competed in Cincinnati districts (Mason, Ross, New Richmond) throughout the majority of their history, and 3) school competes in a conference historically recognized as comprising Cincinnati-area based schools. If my memory is incorrect, I would appreciate being set straight. I plan to apply the same criteria to Dayton-area lists. In addition, I wish to build a database of "county" records for Southwest Ohio that include the following counties: Hamilton, Butler, Warren, Clermont, Brown, Clinton, Greene, Clark, Miami, Darke, Preble, and Montgomery counties. All of this list building will most likely take another 2-4 years to accomplish given my work load, but I'd like to leave these efforts for a future historian in good shape once I'm through.

Thanks so much to the community at large, and especially to Lancermania, SeekUp, and others who have built the Cincinnati lists over the past 15-20 years.
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Your memory is correct on the original criteria. However, it was made simpler when #1 was eliminated, only one criterium remaining is that only schools going to Mason, Ross, or New Richmond Districts are eligible.
 
Lancermania said:
Here is the 3200 meter run. Updates, corrections?

3200 Meter Run FAT
1. 8:54.90 2000 Steve Padgett La Salle Golden West 3rd
2. 9:03.25 1994 Doug Bockenstette La Salle Midwest MOC 1st
3. 9:04.46 1995 Dean Fulmer La Salle NSOC 6th
4. 9:05.33 2002 Allen Bader La Salle Roosevelt 3rd
5. 9:11.58 1969 Reggie McAfee Courter Tech. Ohio Track Classic 1st
6. 9:11.98 1970 Denis Lunne St. Xavier Miami Relays 1st
7. 9:12.54 1999 Brian Godsey Lakota East Regional 2nd
8. 9:15.39 1973 Dave Stanton Princeton Regional 2nd
9. 9:16.74 1987 John Sence Milford State 2nd
10. 9:18.04 2005 Luke Beuerlein Moeller Jesse Owens Classic 2nd


I can't believe La Salle has the top four times on this list. Wow!!!
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shocking............none since 2005...............18 years
 
Major updates to the all-time Cincinnati-area track & fields lists are now on the SWOTCCCA website after several months work. Lancermania has done an outstanding job in updating those files over the years. The last update was in 2022 when the last top 25 lists were posted.

Now, the files have not only been updated through the 2024 season, but have been expanded to the top 50 all-time for the Cincinnati area. Again, those schools included are those that compete in leagues comprised mostly of known Cincinnati-area schools and have been part of Cincinnati-area district meets to a great deal over the years.
 
As a follow-up on my post of 28 Sept regarding the all-time Cincinnati-area lists, I am expanding my personal lists to a minimum 100-deep, and probably more. The same will also happen with the lists for Ohio all-time. This will take me a few years, but I'm already well into the effort for both.

Currently working on the Cincinnati 800-3200 lists with the following expected cut-off targets:
1:56.0 / 2:20.0
4:30.0 / 5:10.0
9:40.0 / 11:20.0

This effort will also include marks made over the formerly 880, Mile, and 2-Mile runs on the same lists. This effort will help provide a more thorough snap-shot of the past vs. the present performers. I will use Yappi for wide distribution.

On another note, this calendar year, 2024-2025, will mark 50 years of the OHSAA girls' program.
 
Following up on this long thread from ages ago, I mentioned last October I was updating my personal lists to a minimum 100-deep. A month ago, I decided to expand that to 250-deep, a project that will take an estimated 2-3 years to complete. I was noticing that even at 100-deep in some lists, that they were dominated by Division I athletes. The new expansion will pick up many D2 & D3 athletes of the past, and these new lists will be INCLUSLIVE of past marks made under under yards distances. They will be factored in using standard T&F statistical methods. While those marks don't count towards actual metric rankings unless there was an actual time at the shorter metric distance, they are nevertheless statistically important from a historical basis when comparing past athletes with the current ones. I hope to have a compilation available for everyone sometime by 2029, Lord willing, and this will be my LAST compilation regarding Cincinnati-area athletes. I plan on retiring from all statistical compilations saving for the state meet project & a future Ohio HS t&f history book (tentatively a 3-book plan) after the 2030 season. That will mark 20 years of a concerted effort as a t&f statistician, and given my age then, I don't think my body will be supportive of the thousands of hours I've invested over the past 15 years. After 2030, someone else is going to have to take up the torch.
 
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