2024 Federal League

pcbuck said:
Yes, for all sports, both boys and girls.

I also forgot to mention that Canton Lehman (closed in 1976) and Canal Fulton (merged another school in 1953 to form Northwest High School) both have 1 OHSAA Team State Championship to equal Massillon and Lake. Both schools ironically won titles in Boys Basketball.
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Wow. Some of these schools opened up around 1910 or so. To have only 1 OHSAA state championship is hard to believe.
 
Gbulldog said:
Wow. Some of these schools opened up around 1910 or so. To have only 1 OHSAA state championship is hard to believe.
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It is not that hard to believe when you dig deeper. The opportunties to win team championships were far more limited. Way back in the day, OHSAA only had 2 Divisions: Class A and Class B (renamed Class AA and Class A in the '50s). IIRC, there was a hard enrollment number that divided schools between Class A and Class B, such that Class B had significantly more schools in it than Class A. In other words, there was no arbitrary number used to place a near equal amount of schools in each Class. The only Class A schools in Stark County would have been: McKinley (and later Lehman, Timken, and Lincoln), Massillon, and Alliance. Louisville, Minerva, and North Canton spent some time above and below the cut-offs. Pre-consolidation, all other Stark schools were in Class B. Thus, winning anything in Class B was rather difficult. In some sports, every Class B team did not make the tournament. In basketball for example, only the top so-many teams in the Stark County B league standings qualified to compete in the basketball tournament. Statewide, there were over 800 schools in Class B at that time! Additionally, the average school was not offering a full compliment of sports, such that some sports only had 1 division for many years (ex. golf, tennis, cross country, and swimming). OHSAA did not increase to 3 divisions until the 1970-1971 school year. There were also no state championships to be won in girls sports until the mid-'70s.
 
All fed said:
Go find a ten game schedule..Your program is built on recruiting and “transfers”. Moore runs a dirty program top to bottom!
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Ok so this just went to being a thread MOSTLY about the Fed Schools and it is now going to turn into a Massillon thread in 3.2.1...
 
All fed said:
Go find a ten game schedule..Your program is built on recruiting and “transfers”. Moore runs a dirty program top to bottom!
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Hard to when they duck The Ville 😂😂😂 but in all seriousness how in the heck is Massillon a dirty program? Recruiting is part of life and obviously sports encapsulates that even high school sports. Why did you quote transfer, Massillon receives transfers so does Springfield, Hoban (just got a STUD ‘26 DB from Heights), Glenville, Winton Woods, etc. I can’t speak for other programs but I’ll assume it’s the same as Glenville, successful programs recruit themselves. Ted has PARENTS reach out to him, we had a ‘25 kid transfer at Christmas break spent the second semester at his new school and he wants to transfer BACK to Glenville. You’re an all fed fan so you should know McK and Glenoak football recruits. McK just bought in 5 transfers just to beat the “dirty program” and yes they may win this year and no one should talk about transfers. Families thought Massillon was the best football program for their kids and made a decision and their kids won a ring and many are going on to the next level. I give Massillon a (good natured) hard time just to be a troll but kick rocks with the recruiting, transfer, and dirty program talk.
 
Tarblooder_Rocketgrad said:
Hard to when they duck The Ville 😂😂😂 but in all seriousness how in the heck is Massillon a dirty program? Recruiting is part of life and obviously sports encapsulates that even high school sports. Why did you quote transfer, Massillon receives transfers so does Springfield, Hoban (just got a STUD ‘26 DB from Heights), Glenville, Winton Woods, etc. I can’t speak for other programs but I’ll assume it’s the same as Glenville, successful programs recruit themselves. Ted has PARENTS reach out to him, we had a ‘25 kid transfer at Christmas break spent the second semester at his new school and he wants to transfer BACK to Glenville. You’re an all fed fan so you should know McK and Glenoak football recruits. McK just bought in 5 transfers just to beat the “dirty program” and yes they may win this year and no one should talk about transfers. Families thought Massillon was the best football program for their kids and made a decision and their kids won a ring and many are going on to the next level. I give Massillon a (good natured) hard time just to be a troll but kick rocks with the recruiting, transfer, and dirty program talk.
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FYI. Tarblooder_Rocketgrad posted, “McK just bought in 5 transfers.” Actually, the number is 10 transfers, according to Hudl.
 
MassillonTigers3 said:
Well none of you have a shot to win even a regional title in football and this is a football thread…I guess that knowledge is the reason why you always talk about other sports lol
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Similar statements were made in 2021 also. We all know how that went.

But as for 2024, McKinley would probably be the most likely candidate. There's a ton of talent on that team, and I'd probably rank them 2nd behind St Eds in Region 1 this year, though Mentor and Cleveland Heights right there with them. We'll know a lot more about the Pups after their Week 2 battle at Avon.

Each of the last two seasons, it has to be said, McKinley's record hasn't matched their talent level. Hall has a lot to prove this season. But with Johnson and Hill together in the backfield, Quincy at receiver, Garner and McNeill on the D-line, and a superstar on both sides of the ball in McClelland, there is no excuse for McKinley not to be one of the top 10 teams in D1.

On paper, this is the best team the Federal League has had since Perry's 2016 squad that made the finals.
 
Bull GreenDog said:
Similar statements were made in 2021 also. We all know how that went.

But as for 2024, McKinley would probably be the most likely candidate. There's a ton of talent on that team, and I'd probably rank them 2nd behind St Eds in Region 1 this year, though Mentor and Cleveland Heights right there with them. We'll know a lot more about the Pups after their Week 2 battle at Avon.

Each of the last two seasons, it has to be said, McKinley's record hasn't matched their talent level. Hall has a lot to prove this season. But with Johnson and Hill together in the backfield, Quincy at receiver, Garner and McNeill on the D-line, and a superstar on both sides of the ball in McClelland, there is no excuse for McKinley not to be one of the top 10 teams in D1.

On paper, this is the best team the Federal League has had since Perry's 2016 squad that made the finals.
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I agree with your sentiment on Mck. If they beat Avon then they are for real. No more excuses for Hall this year. Regional final appearance should be the floor for them.
 
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McK just brought in 5 transfers, no certainty just stating the info I had. If they have 10, that’s wild. Their coach is sick and tired of losing week 10.
MassillonTigers3 said:
lol then why did you respond with such certainty regarding the number of transfers Mck has gotten. Don’t trust that Massillon fans would have better tabs on that than you?
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BIG ED said:
I’m not up on the names at this point in time, but the Panthers have 8 starters back on both sides of the ball. They lost a backup to the club high school rugby team. Another, who was a wrestler moved to Jackson, mainly because he wouldn’t crack the starting lineup at his weight and feels wrestling is his bigger ticket than football. I know of at least one wrestler who didn’t play last year, but did as a freshman, is back out as a junior. Again an open enrollment lineman from Canton and a move in RB from Akron have appeared. I think they are sophomores, but could be juniors. I haven’t been to any camp days yet, so I haven’t seen the team with my eyes yet.
The Panthers lost their DC to Dalton, where he is now the AD. With that said there is a very hot rumor a familiar face may be roaming the sidelines this season as the DC. Stayed tuned!
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Would not be surprised if KW came back although I think its highly unlikely
 
Last week I listed the Federal League and Stark County rankings for OHSAA Team State Championships with Canton McKinley at the top of the list in both. Here's the rankings for OHSAA Individual State Championships.
Federal League:
Canton McKinley 83
Perry 46
Hoover 42
Glen Oak 26
Jackson 15
Green 14
Lake 12

Stark County Top 10
Canton McKinley 83
Perry 46
Hoover 42
Alliance 28
Glen Oak 26
St Thomas Aquinas 24
Massillon 20
Marlington 16
Jackson 15
Canton Central Catholic 15
 
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pcbuck said:
Last week I listed the Federal League and Stark County rankings for OHSAA Team State Championships with Canton McKinley at the top of the list in both. Here's the rankings for OHSAA Individual State Championships.
Federal League:
Canton McKinley 83
Perry 46
Hoover 42
Glen Oak 26
Jackson 15
Green 14
Lake 12

Stark County Top 10
Canton McKinley 83
Perry 46
Hoover 42
Alliance 28
Glen Oak 26
St Thomas Aquinas 24
Massillon 20
Marlington 16
Jackson 15
Green 14
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Federal League, yeah. Stark County, no.

Incidentally, Canton CC has 15 individual state crowns to its name: 5 in boys tennis (Kalbas '84, Thomas '91, Thomas '92, Rubin '99, and Rubin '00), 3 in boys track & field (Manse-Sullivan-Falvo-Zuchegno '93 4x4, '00 Minocchi shot put, and Paul-Scheatzle-Abbott-Grillo '21 4x8), 4 in girls track & field (Peters '79 long jump, Saxen '94 high jump, Mokros '13 100, Mokros '13 200), 3 in boys swimming & diving (Roof '02 500 free, Gonzalez '13 diving, Mullen '19 50 free). For some reason, OHSAA lists none of the boys tennis titles in its spreadsheet.
 
Mr. Slippery said:
Federal League, yeah. Stark County, no.

Incidentally, Canton CC has 15 individual state crowns to its name: 5 in boys tennis (Kalbas '84, Thomas '91, Thomas '92, Rubin '99, and Rubin '00), 3 in boys track & field (Manse-Sullivan-Falvo-Zuchegno '93 4x4, '00 Minocchi shot put, and Paul-Scheatzle-Abbott-Grillo '21 4x8), 4 in girls track & field (Peters '79 long jump, Saxen '94 high jump, Mokros '13 100, Mokros '13 200), 3 in boys swimming & diving (Roof '02 500 free, Gonzalez '13 diving, Mullen '19 50 free). For some reason, OHSAA lists none of the boys tennis titles in its spreadsheet.
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Thanks. Updated my post. Great stuff. The OHSAA records are sometimes off. For example, they listed Canton Central Catholic as winning singles in 1997 in one link but the brackets show Rubin finishing 3rd.
Swimming results are the hardest to fact check.
 
pcbuck said:
Thanks. Updated my post. Great stuff. The OHSAA records are sometimes off. For example, they listed Canton Central Catholic as winning singles in 1997 in one link but the brackets show Rubin finishing 3rd.
Swimming results are the hardest to fact check.
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Rubin was 3rd in '97, his frosh year. He had triple championship point in '98 when severe dehydration caught up with him. He won in '99 and successfully defended his title in '00 against his teammate Carney in the final. The '99 and '00 teams also won the DII team tournament that is sanctioned by the Ohio Tennis Coaches' Association rather than the OHSAA.
 
Tarblooder_Rocketgrad said:
Hard to when they duck The Ville 😂😂😂 but in all seriousness how in the heck is Massillon a dirty program? Recruiting is part of life and obviously sports encapsulates that even high school sports. Why did you quote transfer, Massillon receives transfers so does Springfield, Hoban (just got a STUD ‘26 DB from Heights), Glenville, Winton Woods, etc. I can’t speak for other programs but I’ll assume it’s the same as Glenville, successful programs recruit themselves. Ted has PARENTS reach out to him, we had a ‘25 kid transfer at Christmas break spent the second semester at his new school and he wants to transfer BACK to Glenville. You’re an all fed fan so you should know McK and Glenoak football recruits. McK just bought in 5 transfers just to beat the “dirty program” and yes they may win this year and no one should talk about transfers. Families thought Massillon was the best football program for their kids and made a decision and their kids won a ring and many are going on to the next level. I give Massillon a (good natured) hard time just to be a troll but kick rocks with the recruiting, transfer, and dirty program talk.
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Are you saying GlenOak recruits ? If so you truly don't know crap about stark co football.
 
is there a way for us to limit the jealous ones out west from commenting on our great leagues thread the way they limit us?

They were not recruited to McKinley, they moved in with aspirations of a greater life that canton can offer just like Massillon offers their move ins..

Back to fed talk..

Lets see some win predictions for your federal league teams..
 
Eagle_62 said:
Are you saying GlenOak recruits ? If so you truly don't know crap about stark co football.
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I know more about football than you’d think. I shouldn’t have said recruit; Glenoak welcomes transfers as they should. I’ve coached youth football in Akron with the West Griffins, CYO football in Greater Cleveland at GESU, and youth football in Cleveland with the Shaker Brawlers, the Maple Heights Saints, and Ginn Elite. I’m familiar with the guys that run the Stark Co. youth programs. My point above is it’s ridiculous to call a high school football program dirty as successful programs recruit themselves.
 
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