The best part is the best two players in that class play varsity. Jalen Slaughter and Brady Manson. Coach Hose is really building a program on the hardwood!
2022 Massillon Football
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Egret
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Same here. The first quarter was almost over when we made it into the stadium. Even that young, it's something I'll NEVER forget.
tig62
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From Chris Easterling's Twitter account:
Week 7 opponent for @MTigerFB is DELAWARE'S Class 3A champion from last year.Quote Tweetᴍɪᴅᴅʟᴇᴛᴏᴡɴ ᴄᴀᴠᴀʟɪᴇʀs@MiddletownFB · 1h? Schedule Update ?
Middletown AT Massillon Washington HS (OH)
Location: Paul Brown Tiger Stadium
Date: 9/30/2022
Week 7 opponent for @MTigerFB is DELAWARE'S Class 3A champion from last year.Quote Tweetᴍɪᴅᴅʟᴇᴛᴏᴡɴ ᴄᴀᴠᴀʟɪᴇʀs@MiddletownFB · 1h? Schedule Update ?
Middletown AT Massillon Washington HS (OH)
Location: Paul Brown Tiger Stadium
Date: 9/30/2022
tig62
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Even though it's not official, I still have a strong belief that our fifth game will be with Saint Edward.
Maxie
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Massillon#82
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Weeks 8 and 9 ?
John Lee Pettimore
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Coming Soon....
I will give my final thoughts on the 2021 season....From competing at the highest level with freshman and sophomores, to "the events" that took place in the Regional Championship game. I will also preview the upcoming season, from the current schedule to returning starters/letter winners.
I will give my final thoughts on the 2021 season....From competing at the highest level with freshman and sophomores, to "the events" that took place in the Regional Championship game. I will also preview the upcoming season, from the current schedule to returning starters/letter winners.
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arizonawildcat
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Waiting with bated breath.
dobiean178
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Awesome, looking forward to anything football!
Do us a favor and hold your breath til he makes his post!!!!
John Lee Pettimore
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The 2021 season had a disappointing ending.... (more on that later)....but it could go a long way in preparing some very talented future classes for multiple seasons of deep playoff runs. At any particular time the Tigers could have had up to 5 freshmen and sophomores on the field, regularly....at one time offensively and up to 4 defensively. Despite that youth Massillon was never out of a game. They were able to compete with D1 powers Pickerington Central, (down only 9-7 on the last play of the third quarter) and eventual D1 state champion Lakewood St. Edward, (St. Ed scored late to put it away.) They held on vs rival Warren Harding to survive 49-46 and never quit vs a very good Austintown Fitch Falcon team erasing a 14-0 deficit to win by 10. The Tigers made some adjustments and overcame a halftime deficit vs rival Canton McKinley.... ....and the officials, and won going away....remaining undefeated vs the pups in their new digs (3-0)....winning their 6th in a row and 10th of 11th vs the pups. The inspired play of Sr's such as Austin Brawley (Mr. Do it all), Ryan Zentkovich (the rundown that changed the game vs Fitch) and Darius McElroy (accepting his role and becoming a difference maker) hopefully made an impression on their teammates. Playing and competing against D1 powers and traditional rivals at such a young age definitely helped prepare and teach these kids for the long haul....but the most valuable lesson/s may have come in the Regional Championship game at Mansfields Arlin field.
Lesson #1....do not underestimate your opponent. Lesson #2....never give the officials enough rope to affect the outcome of a game.
During the 2021 regular season Massillon averaged 7.7 penalties for 69.1 yards a game. In the first 3 playoff games the Tigers trimmed those numbers down to 5.5 penalties for 55 yards a game. Now, fourteen weeks into the season a officiating crew comes up with twenty, (20) penalties (over 14 more penalties than they averaged the first 3 tournament games) for one hundred and seventy eight, (178) yards (123 more yards than they averaged in the first 3 playoff games). Keeping Green at 6 of 17 on third down should have been enough, if not for the convenient PI calls. The video that circulated soon after the game show that the final PI call was bogus. Was the officiating crew inept or crooked? Either way, steps need to be taken to keep this kind of thievery from happening again. It was rumored that two officials from that game were penalized for their actions, don't know if it's true or not but if so, it shows that the OHSAA opined that there was (at least) some form of ineptitude....maybe more. The Tigers also had a midseason battle with the OHSAA that saw a handful of players forced to miss at least one game due to their "investigation" that ended up finding nothing. Are the two connected? Wouldn't be surprised.
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A preview of the 2022 season.
Lesson #1....do not underestimate your opponent. Lesson #2....never give the officials enough rope to affect the outcome of a game.
During the 2021 regular season Massillon averaged 7.7 penalties for 69.1 yards a game. In the first 3 playoff games the Tigers trimmed those numbers down to 5.5 penalties for 55 yards a game. Now, fourteen weeks into the season a officiating crew comes up with twenty, (20) penalties (over 14 more penalties than they averaged the first 3 tournament games) for one hundred and seventy eight, (178) yards (123 more yards than they averaged in the first 3 playoff games). Keeping Green at 6 of 17 on third down should have been enough, if not for the convenient PI calls. The video that circulated soon after the game show that the final PI call was bogus. Was the officiating crew inept or crooked? Either way, steps need to be taken to keep this kind of thievery from happening again. It was rumored that two officials from that game were penalized for their actions, don't know if it's true or not but if so, it shows that the OHSAA opined that there was (at least) some form of ineptitude....maybe more. The Tigers also had a midseason battle with the OHSAA that saw a handful of players forced to miss at least one game due to their "investigation" that ended up finding nothing. Are the two connected? Wouldn't be surprised.
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A preview of the 2022 season.
MassillonTigers3
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Lesson 2 hits the nail on the head.
Regarding the other penalties: I rewatched the game again just last night and I think people don’t realize that we had 3 false starts on offense, 3 encroachments on defense, an unsportsmanlike after the play by Banks, blatant facemask by Wright, sideline interference where I think the ref ran right into Nate, illegal hands to the face which took a kids helmet off, blatant PI in the end zone by Lennix, at least one blatant hold by Lee…so when you factor in these calls that literally any ref crew would make it takes us back to a total that looks like our normal penalties for a game. Also, anyone who went to all the games can attest to the extremely mediocre pass defense and technique played by our DB’s, corners especially, so what did we think was going to happen when we played a team that throws the ball 60 times. If you don’t make an attempt to find the ball in the air and make contact with the receiver you are inviting a flag to be thrown. Yeah the last 4th down play seemed to be of the ticky tacky variety but when you allow the game to come down to a 50/50 call by the ref this is what happens.
Our defense recovered two fumbles, had an interception late in the game that should’ve sealed it, turned Green over on downs twice, and forced at least 4 punts. I’d say they set our offense up to score a lot more than 25 points…
Lastly, let’s not act like Green didn’t have 10 penalties called on them for like 90yds. The refs probably interjected themselves too much in the game but both teams were sloppy. Massillon just won the “who can be more sloppy” contest.
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MassillonTigers3
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Some more interesting stats:
Green’s first four drives ended with a fumble, two turnovers on downs, and a punt. Massillon had a perfect opportunity to seize control of the game but squandered it.
Green’s 5 drives prior to their game winning TD went:
3 punts, a turnover on downs, and an interception.
once again Massillon had a golden opportunity to put the game away but didn’t.
Massillon scored 3 TDs and all of them started inside the Green 35. Our longest scoring drive was a FG and started at the Massillon 46 yd line. What this tells me is that the offense could not put together even one legitimate scoring drive and relied solely on the defense to put them in prime position to score.
Green’s first four drives ended with a fumble, two turnovers on downs, and a punt. Massillon had a perfect opportunity to seize control of the game but squandered it.
Green’s 5 drives prior to their game winning TD went:
3 punts, a turnover on downs, and an interception.
once again Massillon had a golden opportunity to put the game away but didn’t.
Massillon scored 3 TDs and all of them started inside the Green 35. Our longest scoring drive was a FG and started at the Massillon 46 yd line. What this tells me is that the offense could not put together even one legitimate scoring drive and relied solely on the defense to put them in prime position to score.
John Lee Pettimore
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No easier way to impact a game as an official than PI's on D and holding on O. On one drive Massillon had 3 PI's.
Not playing well doesn't excuse the officiating, go watch the final "PI" on youtube, it's easy to find.
Not playing well doesn't excuse the officiating, go watch the final "PI" on youtube, it's easy to find.
MassillonTigers3
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I don’t think Green really even played that good of a game. We just managed to play significantly worse. A bad performance from the top down
MassillonTigers3
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While that one possibly questionable call on the final drive for Green “decided” the game it doesn’t excuse that Massillon put themselves in a position to have one 50/50 call going against them causes them to lose the game. The refs didn’t make us false start/jump offside 6 times, didn’t make us burn timeouts in the third quarter because we couldn’t get plays in or get the right personnel on the field.
I’d rather not play the victim card and say we lost because the refs were out to get us when there’s a plethora of reasons staring me in the face that the team and coaches did or didn’t do that resulted in the loss.
John Lee Pettimore
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I agree....to a point, but again....playing poorly isn't a reason to have a game taken away.
MassillonTigers3
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We gave the game away more than it was taken away by a handful of close calls by the refs.
Massillon#82
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We gave the game away on ONE play and that was the fumble with under 2 min left. The game overall was absolutely taken away.
The game should have never been that close and the refs had A LOT to do with that. You continue to bring up the 6 times there was a false start/encroachment but conveniently forget there were 6 pass interference and 2 holding calls, actually there were 3 holding calls in a row and 1 was declined. Everyone knows holding and pass inter flags can be thrown on basically every play especially in high school. Not to mention out of 20 flags, how about the # of flags thrown by the same ref.
At any rate we are on to Moeller…..
Massillon#82
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1st qtr
False start
2nd qtr
Encroachment
Pass inter
Holding
Holding
Pass inter
Encroachment
Illegal procedure
Personal foul
3rd qtr
False start
Unsportsmanlike
Pass int
Encroachment
Sideline inter
Pass int
4th qtr
False start
Pass int
Face mask
Pass int
I would love to know what changed after the 1st qtr. I would assume didn’t want it to look so obvious from the opening kickoff. ??
Since yappi has fans from all over the State I would like to know the last time their team had 20 penalties called on them in any game.
False start
2nd qtr
Encroachment
Pass inter
Holding
Holding
Pass inter
Encroachment
Illegal procedure
Personal foul
3rd qtr
False start
Unsportsmanlike
Pass int
Encroachment
Sideline inter
Pass int
4th qtr
False start
Pass int
Face mask
Pass int
I would love to know what changed after the 1st qtr. I would assume didn’t want it to look so obvious from the opening kickoff. ??
Since yappi has fans from all over the State I would like to know the last time their team had 20 penalties called on them in any game.
MassillonTigers3
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I think way too much emphasis has been placed on that one play. Yeah it was a questionable call no doubt. But as I stated before we had gotten defensive stops on 5 consecutive drives and failed to put together offensive drives to put the game away. We had the opportunity to go up 14-0 in the first few minutes of the game but failed to do so and it wasn’t because of calls by the refs. When our LT damn near tackles the DE I’m not gonna complain when a flag is thrown, when our corners are grabbing the receivers while the ball is in the air and make no effort to look back for the ball I’m not going to complain. Like you said in your post, I’m high school ball you can call a hold or PI on almost every play. We were lucky to only get a handful of PI’s considering that Green threw the ball almost 60 times.
MassillonTigers3
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Yes in the instant of the 4th down play it was a game deciding play. But as I’ve been saying for months now it was Massillon’s own fault that the game was decided on that play. Go ahead and play the victim and keep making excuses for the coaches and players who didn’t perform up to par. That sort of mentality was clearly apparent on the field that night. No mental toughness and a lot of flailing arms in disbelief after every blatant penalty.So which is it ???
Massillon#82
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There isn’t much “looking back for the ball” by DB’s at any level, they aren’t coached that way anymore.
MassillonTigers3
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And it’s exactly why there are so many PI’s in football. If you’re contacting the receiver while the ball is in the air that is a penalty. Some refs call it more closely than others.
You went to all the games I’m sure. Did you think we played good coverage throughout the year?
Massillon#82
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Making excuses ???
I’ll wait while you do some research and tell me the last time a HS football team in Ohio had 20 penalties. They were never given the chance to perform up to par because every time a kid made a play there was a flag on the field taking it away.
MassillonTigers3
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Look at how many of those were pre snap or instances that had nothing to do with a ref having a decision whether or not to throw a flag.1st qtr
False start
2nd qtr
Encroachment
Pass inter
Holding
Holding
Pass inter
Encroachment
Illegal procedure
Personal foul
3rd qtr
False start
Unsportsmanlike
Pass int
Encroachment
Sideline inter
Pass int
4th qtr
False start
Pass int
Face mask
Pass int
I would love to know what changed after the 1st qtr. I would assume didn’t want it to look so obvious from the opening kickoff. ??
Since yappi has fans from all over the State I would like to know the last time their team had 20 penalties called on them in any game.
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