ghsknightsfan
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Mike Hartsock was one of the best local sportscasters i’ve seen. loved his football friday features and game recaps. even took time thursday night to do a preview show.
I dont know it it played in your market, but did you see him in a local commercial spot during the super bowl?Mike Hartsock was one of the best local sportscasters i’ve seen. loved his football friday features and game recaps. even took time thursday night to do a preview show.
I didn't see it! would have liked to. He showed up at Greenon once, possibly twice?I dont know it it played in your market, but did you see him in a local commercial spot during the super bowl?
Always a big deal when he would show up! He would show up in Mercer County in his chopper!
Yep they took over WNHO and started doing games further north!WOSN has expanded?
That is awesome! Truly spoiled! And the quality was good. IL was on vs I think NW this fall and man the announcer was absolutely atrocious and talked out his arse all game. When the kids watched the replay they were like 'wtf is this guy talking about?
It showed he retired, which ii didn't know, and some local company was looking for a spokesman and he applied and got the job. It was much better than I explained.I didn't see it! would have liked to. He showed up at Greenon once, possibly twice?
It showed he retired, which ii didn't know, and some local company was looking for a spokesman and he applied and got the job. It was much better than I explained.
they were like, 5-5 at best maybe. they haven’t had much talent since the Mays duo left. that program is not in a good state.I'm not super familiar with this conference, what is the story behind Urbana? Weren't they conference Champs just 2 years ago or something?
i understand what you’re saying but the CBC/OHC are due for another major shakeup within 5 years. we will probably see the Clark County schools get together and then see the logan/union/champaign schools get together in some format.It's entertaining to discuss league shake-ups, especially with 2 feet of snow on the ground. The reality is that AD's and school Admins don't have a lot of stomach for those headaches. Changes generally happen when obvious problems or opportunities arise. Neither applies here. I will bet that the CBC and OHC remain as is for at least another 5 years and probably more like 10 years.
As GHS Knights alluded to, they were 5-5 the last time they won a shared title. If I’m not mistaken, that team ran off four straight running clocks to finish the season, including a blowout win over a playoff team. Looking at their results, they might have been a few plays from being a playoff team. I believe the 2018 team dealt with many injuries at key positions early in the season.I'm not super familiar with this conference, what is the story behind Urbana? Weren't they conference Champs just 2 years ago or something?
Yeah, being a champ in the CBC, especially in the small school division, can be a bit of a misnomer when it comes down to an overall record.they were like, 5-5 at best maybe. they haven’t had much talent since the Mays duo left. that program is not in a good state.
Urbana RecordsYeah, being a champ in the CBC, especially in the small school division, can be a bit of a misnomer when it comes down to an overall record.
Awesome info, thanks!As GHS Knights alluded to, they were 5-5 the last time they won a shared title. If I’m not mistaken, that team ran off four straight running clocks to finish the season, including a blowout win over a playoff team. Looking at their results, they might have been a few plays from being a playoff team. I believe the 2018 team dealt with many injuries at key positions early in the season.
They essentially put a JV team, in terms of experience, on the field this past fall. Starting with the freshman class, there’s some talent coming to compete in the KTD. The key will be getting and keeping the best athletes involved. This past fall they were led in rushing in at least one game by a kid who also started on the soccer team. The turnover of head coaches in the past decade has hurt the program. Cotner returning to the helm is an important step to rebuilding. Also, having Rogan return helps.
I agree, it will be awhile although it seems that Greenon fans want out of the OHC and back into the CBC now. I'm not sure the Knights are ready for that just yet. Build a winning culture, then go back to the CBC. JMHO.It's entertaining to discuss league shake-ups, especially with 2 feet of snow on the ground. The reality is that AD's and school Admins don't have a lot of stomach for those headaches. Changes generally happen when obvious problems or opportunities arise. Neither applies here. I will bet that the CBC and OHC remain as is for at least another 5 years and probably more like 10 years.
I would never pick the current CBC Mad River over the OHC South. I don't care what league we are in, I'm more concerned about what teams are in it. Ideally, there would be a league that was south of Champaign county that included a mix of some of the current CBC and OHC schools.I agree, it will be awhile although it seems that Greenon fans want out of the OHC and back into the CBC now. I'm not sure the Knights are ready for that just yet. Build a winning culture, then go back to the CBC. JMHO.
I bet that's what they said when the MAC was formed. You have to beat them and have a good OOC, period.I would never pick the current CBC Mad River over the OHC South. I don't care what league we are in, I'm more concerned about what teams are in it. Ideally, there would be a league that was south of Champaign county that included a mix of some of the current CBC and OHC schools.
what im getting at is, Greeneview and Greenon should probably never be in a league with Fairbanks or Triad. Northwestern should probably never be in a division with North Union or Ben Logan. that's how it is.
Man, it's amazing how we get spoiled and all too soon forget history.I would never pick the current CBC Mad River over the OHC South. I don't care what league we are in, I'm more concerned about what teams are in it. Ideally, there would be a league that was south of Champaign county that included a mix of some of the current CBC and OHC schools.
what im getting at is, Greeneview and Greenon should probably never be in a league with Fairbanks or Triad. Northwestern should probably never be in a division with North Union or Ben Logan. that's how it is.
i think the WCOC would be a very solid league today, just my opinionMan, it's amazing how we get spoiled and all too soon forget history.
25 years ago, the WCOC was a conference comprised of teams mostly together because of "travel times." Everyone decided they wanted to travel a little further so that they could grow athletically with better competition. Same for the KTC. So they formed a conference of similarly sized schools, all within an hour drive of one another. The CBC essentially is the big school version of the OHC and had a similar path to their current state.
Now we are complaining about the 40 minute drive from Enon to Milford Center? I would guess that the CBC and OHC have very average travel times compared to the other leagues in the state of Ohio. Imagine being Lima Senior in the TRAC.
Curious as to why, as a Clark County guy, that you are choosing to cut out the Champaign County teams in your proposals and keeping the Greene County teams?
There is absolutely nothing wrong, from a logistical standpoint, with how the CBC or OHC are aligned. Could you shift a team or two around? Sure. Could you cut a team or two out and add a better fit? Sure. But there has to be some hidden, deeper reasoning behind what you are saying. You've been pushing the realignment card for 2 years. Curious if this is a Greenon mentality, or just a personal mentality of yours? Because to join a new league in order to have a little more success, find a little bit of success in that league and then call to disband the league and take original members with you; all in a span of 3 years, is a little bold.
That's it? That's a cute little drive.btw, Greenon to Fairbanks is 51 minutes with no traffic. on a bus, it’s over an hour. Greeneview to Fairbanks is over an hour. more on a bus.
Yep. And they're ready to blow it all up! lolGreenon just joined the OHC in 2017.
This actually makes a very compelling case for what ghsknightsfan has been hinting at what he thinks should happen re: Clark county schools. Particularly if you look at total athletic department strength and not just football and basketball, it makes a lot of sense for Northwestern, Greenon, Kenton Ridge, Shawnee and Tecumseh to be in the same league or division within a league. You could make some argument for Northeastern as well, but i'd lean towards not including them. Prior to 2001 those six made up 75% of the CBC for a decade. The only other schools that had participated in the league prior to divisional expansion were Bellefontaine, Urbana and London.Enrollment numbers are overrated to me. I put it 4th or 5th in terms of factors I'd look at when organizing leagues.
1. Competitiveness
2. Travel
3. Culture
4. History
5. Enrollment Figures
Basically what you're saying is Greenon wants/should go to the CBC?This actually makes a very compelling case for what ghsknightsfan has been hinting at what he thinks should happen re: Clark county schools. Particularly if you look at total athletic department strength and not just football and basketball, it makes a lot of sense for Northwestern, Greenon, Kenton Ridge, Shawnee and Tecumseh to be in the same league or division within a league. You could make some argument for Northeastern as well, but i'd lean towards not including them. Prior to 2001 those six made up 75% of the CBC for a decade. The only other schools that had participated in the league prior to divisional expansion were Bellefontaine, Urbana and London.
The trend lately has been away from divisions and towards smaller leagues. Those five plus a few others of similar size/competitiveness in neighboring counties would make the Clark county equivalent of the Miami county centric TRC that starts in the fall.
I could see that happening sometime down the road, but probably not for at least another 10 years at this point.