Weiskittle
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With 12 teams making the playoffs now, I would like to see conferences go back to more travel based. I like when local teams play.
btw, Greenon to Fairbanks is 51 minutes with no traffic. on a bus, it’s over an hour. Greeneview to Fairbanks is over an hour. more on a bus.
Greenon just joined the OHC in 2017.
Enrollment numbers are overrated to me. I put it 4th or 5th in terms of factors I'd look at when organizing leagues.
1. Competitiveness
2. Travel
3. Culture
4. History
5. Enrollment Figures
Basically what you're saying is Greenon wants/should go to the CBC?This actually makes a very compelling case for what ghsknightsfan has been hinting at what he thinks should happen re: Clark county schools. Particularly if you look at total athletic department strength and not just football and basketball, it makes a lot of sense for Northwestern, Greenon, Kenton Ridge, Shawnee and Tecumseh to be in the same league or division within a league. You could make some argument for Northeastern as well, but i'd lean towards not including them. Prior to 2001 those six made up 75% of the CBC for a decade. The only other schools that had participated in the league prior to divisional expansion were Bellefontaine, Urbana and London.
The trend lately has been away from divisions and towards smaller leagues. Those five plus a few others of similar size/competitiveness in neighboring counties would make the Clark county equivalent of the Miami county centric TRC that starts in the fall.
I could see that happening sometime down the road, but probably not for at least another 10 years at this point.
Basically what you're saying is Greenon wants/should go to the CBC?
It wasn't long ago, Catholic Central dominated soccer. Things go in cycles and it seems like some want to always be on top and never be on the bottom. It doesn't work that way. Look at the MAC over the years. Bottom dwellers who are now State Champions. You have to go through it all to reap the success is all that I am saying.I can't speak for them, but I think as an outsider the OHC move was great at the time for football and basketball for them. Football especially, with what they had entering high school at the time it let them quickly rebuild their football program.
The longer time goes on, IMO, it will prove to be a very bad move for a lot of their non-revenue sports such as boys' soccer. There are too many schools in the league that are either too small or that have poor demographics for their size to be very competitive in the travel ball/country club type sports. In the last three years they have one loss and one tie in boys' soccer in league play.
For as bad as they were in football and basketball their last handful of years in the CBC, they were still finishing 3rd or 4th in their division in the all-sports standings those years. Those sports that picked up the slack such as boys' soccer will dominate in the OHC, especially the south division schools.
This actually makes a very compelling case for what ghsknightsfan has been hinting at what he thinks should happen re: Clark county schools. Particularly if you look at total athletic department strength and not just football and basketball, it makes a lot of sense for Northwestern, Greenon, Kenton Ridge, Shawnee and Tecumseh to be in the same league or division within a league. You could make some argument for Northeastern as well, but i'd lean towards not including them. Prior to 2001 those six made up 75% of the CBC for a decade. The only other schools that had participated in the league prior to divisional expansion were Bellefontaine, Urbana and London.
The trend lately has been away from divisions and towards smaller leagues. Those five plus a few others of similar size/competitiveness in neighboring counties would make the Clark county equivalent of the Miami county centric TRC that starts in the fall.
I could see that happening sometime down the road, but probably not for at least another 10 years at this point.
I agree that the 5 Clark County schools should have stayed together. However, 5 teams isn't enough for a league and once you start pulling in others, it gets convoluted. There's also the issue of Greenon struggling in Football and Boys Basketball for a long time.
Greenon had every reason to leave, and absolutely no one can blame for that. the athletics program was just not good. they made the right move at the time to the OHC and started to build the program back up. Greenon has nothing against anyone in the CBC. it’s a good league.Weird to see a Greenon fan push to separate Urbana from the Clark County schools, seeing as Greenon is the one who left the CBC. Urbana has a 40+ year history with the Clark County CBC schools. When Greenon bailed and created uncertainty in the CBC, Urbana cast its lot with the other Clark County schools and fought to keep the conference together. I'm guessing those schools have a much longer memory than some of the posters on here.
Greenon had every reason to leave, and absolutely no one can blame for that. the athletics program was just not good. they made the right move at the time to the OHC and started to build the program back up. Greenon has nothing against anyone in the CBC. it’s a good league.
wow, what?!?A blow to Graham as Shane Cahill was named head coach at Madison Plains.
Looks like Cahill is from that area, plus Graham isn’t exactly a consistent football power.wow, what?!?
didn’t Plains snatch Graham’s basketball coach as well? what’s the connection their? why would they leave for a smaller school?
A blow to Graham as Shane Cahill was named head coach at Madison Plains.
You got that right. Big gain for the OHC, big lost for the CBC.going to be tough for Graham to get a good coach this late in the off-season.
How so? Dublin Jerome is still in the process of replacing there coach. They have narrowed down the list to 12 coaches.going to be tough for Graham to get a good coach this late in the off-season.
usually schools will post the position in november and have a hire by mid december. that’s a normal timeline. february is considered late. Jerome is a bigger school, it’s more sought out. Graham is a D4 that’s not exactly a coaching destination. it will be interesting to see who applies, who knows, they may get a good one of may notHow so? Dublin Jerome is still in the process of replacing there coach. They have narrowed down the list to 12 coaches.
There are plenty of coach's out there looking for greener pastures or a new opportunity. This is February, different story if he left over the summer.
Cahill had Cale Burdyshaw call the offense. Burdyshaw is a terrific football coach and really got a lot out of the offensive players. The team was very senior dominant. Next year, Graham must replace almost all of the offense and defense. So whoever they hire, they will have their work cut out for them.Will be an interesting hire to keep an eye on moving forward. I do not know who Cahill had calling the plays in his time or if Cahill himself called plays. However, offensively the Falcons were fun to watch avg around 33 ppg with the P.O.Y playing QB. Whoever gets the nod, there will be some senior production lost to make up for.