What state has the Best High School Football?

What state has the Best High School Football?

  • Ohio

    Votes: 90 72.6%
  • Florida

    Votes: 6 4.8%
  • Calafornia

    Votes: 4 3.2%
  • Texas

    Votes: 24 19.4%

  • Total voters
    124
I went to St. X, so I guess you could call me a private school guy, and yeah I am new to the Texas high school system, but don't get me wrong...I like good football from either public or private...I really don't care.

I really don't see what you're trying to say...private schools would have worse facilities no matter what sports league or what have you they are in. The private schools just dont have close to the money that public schools have since, as far as i know at least, they are given any money by the state.

Do you know that John Paul II HS which deos not have seniors yet just had two families donate $2.6M to help build a football and track stadium?

That is one school and two donors for athletic facilities alone to a school that has yet to play a down with seniors. I may be going crazy, but having seen some of the facilities around first hand, I think that this may be the tip of the ice berg.

Do private school facilities in large part compare favorably to the publics? No way.

Will that change as mroe schools gain admittance to the UIL? Undoubtedly in my opinion.

Those parents who want the best of the best for thier kids now and begin to send them to private schools money will be following as well.
 
Those parents who want the best of the best for thier kids now and begin to send them to private schools money will be following as well.

I wanted the "best of the best" for my kids so I moved to . . . . well . . . . nevermind.
 
I wanted the "best of the best" for my kids so I moved to . . . . well . . . . nevermind.

I understand, you moved to a place where hand grenades.......(just kidding)

My point is in response to this:

As for the private schools I mentioned earlier, they kind of show you what Texas football would be without the resources they put into it.

People always want to equate things, typically to the way things are done in which they are familiar.

In this case private schools in Texas vs. private schools in Ohio. You simply cannot do so at all.

My point is that if more people sent their kids to private school they would demand from them facilities similar if not better than those at the publics. I do not know of any public school or district that has recived a donation of $2.6M from two individuals specifically for the football stadium.
 
I understand, you moved to a place where hand grenades.......(just kidding)

For those of you who don't know, this week a 4th grader brought a hand grenade to school at Old Union Elementary School in the SLC school disctrict. The school was evacuated and the bomb squad was called. The grenade was hollow but the pin was still intact.

Sad, funny and true.
 
I haven't seen any ladies here . . . . and . . . . I'm wondering which posters you are calling "gentlemen"? That would be a stretch in a few cases. :D :D

ok, lemme rephrase: (sarcasm warning) guys, boys, and overreacting slc, evidence that computers are wrong. (sarcasm)
 
For those of you who don't know, this week a 4th grader brought a hand grenade to school at Old Union Elementary School in the SLC school disctrict. The school was evacuated and the bomb squad was called. The grenade was hollow but the pin was still intact.

Sad, funny and true.

He probably received a good stern talking to while the stunt was viewed as a pracitcal joke.

A MNW youngster would be branished a juvenile delinquent getting a head start on a life of thuggery.
 
What state has the Best High School Football?
I see that this dude is a JOKESTER? In WHAT universe is GEORGIA not included in this travesty? FYI, Cali, pop. 39,000,000, has FOUR decent teams, and they ALL RECRUIT MASSIVE metro areas. Their coaches couldn't get a job as a janitor in Georgia. If they WERE quality coaches. Don't you think that they would have moved on to the Power Five collegiate level? A decent asst. in Power Five earns $300,000-$500,000 plus. SAME o SAME o, for Fla., and Ohio. And IF a Fla. coach is worth spit, he treks NORTH to Georgia, where he would get a $30,000 plus pay bump. And while Texas MAY have some decent coaches. Their teams don't fare very well against OOS opponents. They are always talking about why they don't play many OOS games. That why play those, when the best competition is INstate. But when they DO play those OOS games, they get BLASTED.

Cali, Tex., Fla. and Ohio, ALL have at LEAST 1,000,000-25,000,000 more people than Georgia. Yet talent wise, WE are right there with the best of um. And that's even taking into account, that a majority of WHITE boys don't play football in the Peach State. But ask the opponents of the UGA DAWGS, how good these white boys are that DID decide to play football. (OL Austin Blaske, TE Brock Bowers, WR Ladd McConkey, TE Oscar Delp, QB Gunner Stockton, Brock Vandagriff, OL Tate Ratledge, LB Chas Chambliss, OL Micah Morris, LB Dan Jackson, QB Carson Beck, and Dylan Fairchild)
 
Having attended the Herbie to watch Texas High I was surprised by the turnout at Nippert Stadium. At half time of the Texas High/Findlay gave I would estimate there were less than 1500 in the stands (I am being generous) for the later game with Colerain (hometown team), I would be surprised if there were 5,000.

For all the hype, the attendence was pathetic. When Texas High played in the East Texas Classic several weeks earlier, there were probably 10,000 in attendence (granted the schools playing were within 130 miles of the stadium). But then again Findlay was about 155 miles from the stadium and they did not travel.
Texas teams don't think that any of their non Texas opponents are worthy of traveling to see.
 
I believe you, and I am not discrediting Ohio ball one bit.
However, if you look at it objectively on what TX does compared to the other 49 states, I do not think it can be disputed that Ohio is 2nd when it comes to high school football craze.

TX allocates more resources to High school football - And that all comes from the community.

-indoor practice facilities
-state of the art stadiums
-Grass fields are practically obsolete - Everyone has field turf.
-State of the art video equipment for scouting. Win - Win - Win


The reason TX can afford high priced ridiculous stadiums is because of community support.
The reason the High school head coaches make from 65,000 to 110,000 and do not teach a class is because of community support and the absolute demand for a winner. The community pays for the Stadiums as well as coaches salaries.

It's VERY SIMPLE - The Demand for a great high school team is there, so resources (supplies) are spent to ensure that.

When the TX High school playoffs comes around - if your team makes it - it is absolute hysteria in that community.
And look at MOST of the results in those playoffs! MOST games are FRICKIN BLOWOUTS! When you see a semifinal game that is a 45 point loss. What does THAT tell you about the REST of the frickin STATE?
 
Shouldn't Georgia be on this list, ESPN had them higher than ohio in high school football :rolleyes:
Let's not confuse delusions of grandeur with FACT! And Georgia has more quality teams per capita, than ANY state not named TEXAS! Florida has 2 1/2 times the population of Georgia. Yet there aren't more than five powerhouses in their whole state. (IMG, STA, American Heritage Plantation, Lakeland, and Miami Central) And they have OPEN ENROLLMENT, where kids can transfer in MIDSEASON for gosh sakes. WHAT a JOKE. Conversely, Georgia has perennial powers in Grayson, Marietta, Norcross, McEachern, Walton, Mill Creek, Langston Hughes, Cedar Grove, Sandy Creek, Westlake, Creekside, North Cobb, Buford, Gainesville, Carrollton, Lowndes, Camden Co., Warner Robins, Lee Co., Benedictine, Eagles Landing Christian, MARIST, Parkview, Rome, Calhoun, and Colquitt.
 
We all our bais for our on State in someway , but after the Herbie seeing Lakeland , Texas High , DeLasalle. Cali , TX, OH , FLA all play some damn good ball we could argue a entrie lifetime about this. But I will say after the Big 4 PA has some great teams to. This is getting old. The only major difference is the fans in Texas and Ohio and the love for the game that none of the other the other States cant compete with. Just look at Big cities in Ohio and Texas like Cincinnati and Dallas & Fort Worth Area. In these 2 big towns poeple come out on Friday or Saturday night just like a small town its hard to find that kind of passion elsewhere. Thats just my opinion but I pretty much respect everybody.
Lemme pose THIS comparison! How can you compare a state who has 500 schools with enrollments of 4000 plus students. With a state whose largest school by far, is 4000? BUT, BUT, BUT, LARGER don't always mean BETTER! I can remember a school with 6500 students, Allen, that needed to go pilfer another high school, to get the QB1 that they needed, KYLER MURRAY! I can name a school (Mater Dei) who lost their QB1 (J.T. Daniels, to early enrollment at USC) But had the pick of the ENTIRE metro LA area, to pick THEIR QB1 replacement, BRYCE YOUNG! And MOST of those schools with 4000 students, routinely get WHACKED in the playoffs. It has become the first ten teams to recruit the best, WINS the natty.

The irony of it all was though. The last regular high school to win this natty, was the Colquitt Co. Packers, who was the least talented team we had had in a decade, with only one THREE star and NO legit RB's, after our four star All American, decided he and his gang needed a 68 year old farmer's gun collection, more than he did, and killed him dead. So, ALAS, the greatest coach in America, went back to the drawing board, and moved his TWO Star TE and THREE Star WR to RB on plays where they were needed. And finished their 30-0 run through the toughest prep playoff bracket in AMERICA! They finished #1 in TWO polls, #2 in three other polls, and # FRICKIN SIX, in the Dallas Jackass Comic Book Poll. Thus keeping them from being CONSENSUS NATIONAL CHAMPIONS. But have no fear, THAT will be the LAST time a non private/non open enrollment school will EVER win a NATTY! What's happened to prep football is even more befuddling than UGA's current domination of the DI rankings. But at LEAST, DI football has the wherewithall to compete and recruit, to rectify the measureables. NOT SO in high school football. Where those 10-12 football factories, have made a MOCKERY of competing at a high school level.

By the BY, the #10 ranked team in America currently, is public open enrollment school Buford, Ga., enrollment 1100. And they currently have TWENTY FIVE, three, four, and five star players on their roster. And THREE of the TOP TWENTY FIVE in AMERICA! Should THEY be considered a lil ole public high school, just trying to do the best that they can? OH HELL NOOOO! The GHSA should lose their powers as a governing body. If Buford EVER loses another game (except the one against St. Francis Academy tomorrow) Their head coach should be FIRED on the spot for GROSS INCOMPETENCE!

In short, there are a multitude of factors that go into the best of the best. But teams who RECRUIT should be BANNED from high school rankings.

And there are MAYBE FOUR other schools in ALL of Cali, who can walk and chew chewing gum at the same time. Would the fact that Mater Dei swapping natty's for the past six seasons, with St. John Bosco, say that Cali is the best of the best?

There seems to be a common theme each and ever season. The SAME o SAME o top ten is ALWAYS the same. Mater Dei, St. John Bosco, De La Salle, Centennial Corona, St. Francis Academy, St. Thomas Aquinas, Miami Central, IMG, Bishop Gorman, and the flavor of the month in Texas, which more than likely is one of their 4000 enrollment football factories. MOST of which are either private schools, or school who have open enrollment with NO geographic boundaries. And since Buford, under the auspices of the three times multiplier, has quickly risen to that level, to meet the challenge. THESE ten to twelve teams, will soon RUIN high school football, on a national level. There NEEDS to be sanctions towards these schools, to only play each other to establish a FOOTBALL FACTORY NATIONAL CHAMPION. Because the REST of our 12,000 schools, are just pissin in the wind.
 
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I believe you, and I am not discrediting Ohio ball one bit.
However, if you look at it objectively on what TX does compared to the other 49 states, I do not think it can be disputed that Ohio is 2nd when it comes to high school football craze.

TX allocates more resources to High school football - And that all comes from the community.

-indoor practice facilities
-state of the art stadiums
-Grass fields are practically obsolete - Everyone has field turf.
-State of the art video equipment for scouting. Win - Win - Win


The reason TX can afford high priced ridiculous stadiums is because of community support.
The reason the High school head coaches make from 65,000 to 110,000 and do not teach a class is because of community support and the absolute demand for a winner. The community pays for the Stadiums as well as coaches salaries.

It's VERY SIMPLE - The Demand for a great high school team is there, so resources (supplies) are spent to ensure that.

When the TX High school playoffs comes around - if your team makes it - it is absolute hysteria in that community.
YEAH, HYSTERIA, JUST like those bozos at TEXAS CHRISTIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The average Texan needs to stick to lassoing COW TURDS!!!
 
I would submit that Ohio has more "dynasties" than Texas. The schools at the top of the heap in Texas change frequently as new schools are created, the neighbor changes, coaching changes, etc... I think that is the nature of a public school system. The names at the top change in Texas, but it is the same names in Ohio.

In terms of players produced Texas turns out probably 3X the Division I players as Ohio. Honestly one of the reasons that occurs is Texas plays NCAA rules in high school. It is easier to project the players in the next level - especially the lineman.
MORE dynasties translate to LESS COMPETITION!
 
I see that this dude is a JOKESTER? In WHAT universe is GEORGIA not included in this travesty? FYI, Cali, pop. 39,000,000, has FOUR decent teams, and they ALL RECRUIT MASSIVE metro areas. Their coaches couldn't get a job as a janitor in Georgia. If they WERE quality coaches. Don't you think that they would have moved on to the Power Five collegiate level? A decent asst. in Power Five earns $300,000-$500,000 plus. SAME o SAME o, for Fla., and Ohio. And IF a Fla. coach is worth spit, he treks NORTH to Georgia, where he would get a $30,000 plus pay bump. And while Texas MAY have some decent coaches. Their teams don't fare very well against OOS opponents. They are always talking about why they don't play many OOS games. That why play those, when the best competition is INstate. But when they DO play those OOS games, they get BLASTED.

Cali, Tex., Fla. and Ohio, ALL have at LEAST 1,000,000-25,000,000 more people than Georgia. Yet talent wise, WE are right there with the best of um. And that's even taking into account, that a majority of WHITE boys don't play football in the Peach State. But ask the opponents of the UGA DAWGS, how good these white boys are that DID decide to play football. (OL Austin Blaske, TE Brock Bowers, WR Ladd McConkey, TE Oscar Delp, QB Gunner Stockton, Brock Vandagriff, OL Tate Ratledge, LB Chas Chambliss, OL Micah Morris, LB Dan Jackson, QB Carson Beck, and Dylan Fairchild)
You are replying to posts from 2007. Ohio HS football fans have a high regard to what Georgia HS football has become. Mainly because it’s what Ohio football used to be.
 
You are replying to posts from 2007. Ohio HS football fans have a high regard to what Georgia HS football has become. Mainly because it’s what Ohio football used to be.
SORRY for the misreading of the post. I still haven't gotten use to folks referring to post from nearly a decade ago.
 
Massillon Ohio has to lead the country in terms of attendance for an entire season. You all are mainly talking about big playoff games but Massillon has big crowds for every game. It’s a great atmosphere every week. Big stadium (only used by the Massillon Tigers, calliope playing out front before the games, tailgating rivaling colleges, fireworks after touchdowns, party downtown after games where the Main Street is closed off and the bars restaurants open up. Massillon is a small division two team in Ohio in a town of 32,000 but no one beats us in terms of fan support. At our away games we usually have more people than the home team. So in terms of fan support my vote is Ohio.
 
Massillon Ohio has to lead the country in terms of attendance for an entire season. You all are mainly talking about big playoff games but Massillon has big crowds for every game. It’s a great atmosphere every week. Big stadium (only used by the Massillon Tigers, calliope playing out front before the games, tailgating rivaling colleges, fireworks after touchdowns, party downtown after games where the Main Street is closed off and the bars restaurants open up. Massillon is a small division two team in Ohio in a town of 32,000 but no one beats us in terms of fan support. At our away games we usually have more people than the home team. So in terms of fan support my vote is Ohio.
Can’t deny any of that!
 
I say Ohio because Massillon and Mckinley are known nationwaide and also we have great teams down south ohio and also nobody can forgeet about St X. Granit texas, Florida, and Calafornia all have teams that are knowqn nationaly i guess my vote kinda was persauded by the history of Massillon Mck
Wouldn't that be more accurately determined, by the number of perennially nationally ranked teams in a given state? Seems as though one state has been omitted in this particular poll, that rivals all but Texas and Florida, with a 1/3 of their population.

FYI, a team who Massillon played in week one, is probably the best known outside of the Tigers, in the entire nation. And that team hasn't been a national power since 1992.
 
Per Capita Ohio would probably take it.
Could you be so kind as to name ten of Ohio's best teams? Because that would be the benchmark to be in the top four. Because there is currently one state with a lesser population than Ohio, that perennially has more than ten top 100 teams in a given season. Not trying to diss Ohio, just trying to give the devil his due.

As an aside, THIS season MAAAAY be touch and go in Georgia. Since the national polls frown upon nationally ranked teams who lose to OTHER nationally ranked teams. And we have about a dozen such matchups, before we crown a 7A State Champion. And we have a top twenty five matchup this Friday night, between #6 Buford and #25 Mill Creek, at 7:00 EST on ESPN2. And my por lil Colquitt Co. Packers are ranked top fifteen in the country in three polls, and third in the STATE.o_O

Update: DOWN goes Frasier, DOWN goes Frasier. That funny sounding lil school of 4,000, Mill Creek 35 Buford and their 25 Power Five prospects 24.
 
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I haven't seen any ladies here . . . . and . . . . I'm wondering which posters you are calling "gentlemen"? That would be a stretch in a few cases. :D :D
I was merely expressing pleasantries there pilgrim. I have no way of knowing the gender of a given poster. HECK, my wife probably knows as much about football as most fans. And she along with her female friends, often post on sports message boards, just to show off. I certainly did NOT mean to rankle your nuggies. Please accept my heartfelt apologies, as it were.
 
I was a homer and chose Ohio although I feel the other states have more talent. I think DLSfan brings up a good point. With Ohio being the smallest (not sure about Florida) of the 4 they still have amazing competition year in and year out.
Then SOMEBODY needs to tell national entities Craig Halbert and Kirk Herbstreit, and other high profiled pundits, who say that GEORGIA rates THIRD behind Texas and Florida. Just tonight, Halbert gave a list on ESPN2, that the top FIVE were:
1.Texas
2.Florida
3.Georgia
4.California
5.Alabama.
And he wasn't so sure that Georgia wasn't the most fertile recruiting ground of them all. Because while other states have an abundance of certain skill sets. Georgia had it ALL virtually EVERY season.

In fact, he said that in the last several NFL Drafts, that no fewer than four early first rounders at various positions, played their high school ball in the Peach State.

HIS words, not mine.
 
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The SOMEBODY needs to tell national entities Craig Halbert and Kirk Herbstreit, and other high profiled pundits, who say that GEORGIA rates THIRD behind Texas and Florida. Just tonight, Halbert gave a list on ESPN2, that the top FIVE were:
1.Texas
2.Florida
3.Georgia
4.California
5.Alabama.
And he wasn't so sure that Georgia wasn't the most fertile recruiting ground of them all. Because while other states have an abundance of certain skill sets. Georgia had it ALL virtually EVERY season.

In fact, he said that in the last several NFL Drafts, that no fewer than four early first rounders at various positions, played their high school ball in the Peach State.

HIS words, not mine.
I got to see some of that Mill Creek vs Buford game. Those teams were very good, but I think the very top teams in Ohio could play toe to toe with them. Georgia has much, much more big school depth than Ohio does now, though. Far more high quality teams.
 
I say Ohio because Massillon and Mckinley are known nationwaide and also we have great teams down south ohio and also nobody can forgeet about St X. Granit texas, Florida, and Calafornia all have teams that are knowqn nationaly i guess my vote kinda was persauded by the history of Massillon Mck
Could you expound upon this Massillon history to which you refer? Because I can't for the life of me, find where they won anything on the playing field? But that just silly me!
 
I got to see some of that Mill Creek vs Buford game. Those teams were very good, but I think the very top teams in Ohio could play toe to toe with them. Georgia has much, much more big school depth than Ohio does now, though. Far more high quality teams.
Thanks for an informed response. But I will tell you that it's not a foregone conclusion that either of the teams you saw that night, will be standing at the End. A far more talented Buford team was knocked out by Walton, in the 2022 second round of the playoffs, AT BUFORD. The next week, that Walton team was blown out by Carrollton, who beat us by eight in the semis.
 
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