What about the peaceful transition?

winbypin said:
Cool. Which one of these people won the presidency after their self-inflicted events?
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Both things can and are true. Trump won in 2016 and 2024 but lost in 2020. Fanboys could not accept the 2020 results but Trump financially took advantage of it by raking in millions on a stop the steal BS.

To vote for Trump regarding policy, that is one thing. But to say, defend and admire the quality of the individual that Trump is….that is pure fanboy stupidity.
 
gneiss rocks said:
Did you believe the fake news 3 year Russia collusion hoax, or Trump?
Did you believe Fauci and your fake news, or Trump?
Did You believe the fake news and 51 intelligence officials, or Rudy and Trump?
Has your brain been "wiped, like with a cloth or something?"

These are all in the same category and you just keep coming back for more? Why?

If you just listen and chase your horse dewormer with bleach, I'm sure you will figure this out.
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It sounds like we’ve got a real conspiracy detective over here! Kudos to you for putting on your tin foil hat and embarking on an epic quest for the truth, complete with a side of sarcasm. You're obviously brilliant!

I mean, the way you summarized all these complex topics makes it sound like you’re trying to win a gold medal in the Olympic sport of Creative Outrage. “Did you believe the fake news three-year Russia collusion hoax, or Trump?” Wow, it’s almost like you’re running for the title of “Most Dedicated Fan of the One True Narrative!”

And let’s not forget the classic jab about Fauci and “your fake news.” It’s almost as if you think Dr. Fauci is secretly plotting to take over the world with his extensive knowledge of viruses and infectious diseases, like a villain in a superhero movie, but with a stethoscope instead of a cape.

Your mention of the 51 intelligence officials sounds like the start of a bad joke: “51 intelligence officials walk into a bar…”—guess what? It’s hard to tell a good story when everyone’s got their own version of events, right? And let’s not skip over the charming suggestion to “chase your horse dewormer with bleach.” I mean, that’s a cocktail idea that could only come from the wildest imagination! Who knew health advice could sound like a twisted recipe for disaster?

But hey, I get it. You’ve got a whole arsenal of quips ready to go, and you’re keeping your conspiracy theory engine running at full speed. But while you’re busy unearthing what you deem the “truth,” maybe we can all take a breather and focus on verified information, just a thought! I understand those are hard for you...bBecause, you know, it’s hard to navigate such a wild landscape when everyone’s shouting from different rooftops. Maybe we could aim for some friendly dialogue instead of a comedic roast, shall we? Although this is at least entertaining.
 
underthelights said:
Civil Fraud Case: The New York Attorney General's office found that Trump and his companies inflated asset values to secure favorable loans and insurance rates, resulting in a civil lawsuit that could ultimately cost him billions. This isn’t just a slap on the wrist; it’s a major blow to his business empire.
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Will be overturned on appeal. Not serious.

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Classified Documents Case: After leaving office, Trump was indicted for allegedly mishandling classified documents, including top-secret materials. This is serious, as it involves national security and could lead to significant legal repercussions.
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Already dismissed. Not serious.

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Election Interference Charges: Trump has faced legal scrutiny related to his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. This includes charges of conspiracy and solicitation to commit election fraud, which put a spotlight on potential threats to democratic processes.
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The Georgia case is on life-support. Not serious.

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January 6th Insurrection: He faces allegations of inciting the January 6th insurrection at the Capitol, which resulted in deaths and severe injury to law enforcement, further complicating his legal landscape.
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lol What? Not even a thing, so definitely not serious.

underthelights said:
Here's a link for you if you'd like to track his legal issues. (I'm aware politico tends to lean to the left, but they put it in list format, and considering your comprehension issues, I figured that would be easiest for you) https://www.politico.com/interactives/2023/trump-criminal-investigations-cases-tracker-list/
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I just tracked them for you. Don't need it.

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I didn't even say anything about porn stars... I deserve to be applauded for keeping it high brow at the very least.
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No one cares about your self-righteous indignation.

underthelights said:
So, if you're asking me which of these are “serious,” I’d say all of them are. They aren’t just noise; they represent significant legal troubles that could lead to real consequences.
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That's hilarious. They've all gone poof. Just like I told you previously. Talk about comprehension issues!

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And calling me an arrogant snot? That’s rich. It’s always entertaining when the ones who throw around insults, whose ideologies are rooted in division, suddenly start playing the victim card. But hey, if it brings you comfort, who am I to disrupt your little echo chamber?
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I'm modifying that. You're a long-winded, arrogant snot.

underthelights said:
As for winning an election: yeah, I can admit that the election was legitimate and wasn't the outcome I wanted. So, kudos to you! Can your desired candidate say the same thing about the 2020 election? And winning isn’t the end-all be-all. It’s about the bigger picture, the values, and the implications of those victories. It’s not just about the immediate win; it’s how those results will affect our collective future. I'm hoping they will be minimal.
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Agreed. The "bigger picture" is we're back on the right track. Really digging your dedication to the "you don't know what you voted for" narrative. It doesn't sound arrogant at all! lmao

underthelights said:
Anyways, let’s keep this lively back and forth going. Your punchlines might be entertaining, but if they don’t address the core issues, they’re just a distraction from the real issues that, based on you're replies, you are not well versed on.
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I must seem like a god to you.

Good times.
 
underthelights said:
And let’s not forget the classic jab about Fauci and “your fake news.” It’s almost as if you think Dr. Fauci is secretly plotting to take over the world with his extensive knowledge of viruses and infectious diseases, like a villain in a superhero movie, but with a stethoscope instead of a cape.
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Everything you were told about covid was a bald-faced lie, and Fauci is an incompetent egomaniac. Your support for him is telling.

That's one area the more level-headed liberal elitists have backed away from, but way to go down with the ship!

lmao
 
Oh, we’re back for more, I see! Your unwavering confidence is impressive—almost as impressive as Trump’s ability to embrace his “unique” shade of orange. I mean, with that complexion, who needs filters? You're declaring these legal issues “not serious” like you’ve got a law degree hanging on the wall next to a poster of Trump’s hair—what a combo!

Let’s break it down. The Civil Fraud Case? Sure, it’s just a lawsuit that could cost Trump billions. No big deal, right? Just a little paperwork, like filling out a grocery list of “Things I Definitely Should Worry About.” It’s amazing how you’re so chill about it—your logic is as solid as Trump’s claim that he would have won the 2020 election if it weren’t for “the rigged system.”

Then we have the Classified Documents Case. You say it’s dismissed? Maybe that’s your “bigly” misunderstanding of how real-world consequences work. Saying “it’s not serious” is as laughable as believing that holding onto classified documents is a casual hobby. “Look at my top-secret collection; it really ties the room together!”

As for the Election Interference Charges, you’re completely right! The Georgia case is on “life-support,” just like your grip on reality. You must be sourcing your facts from Trump’s Twitter account—“alternative facts” as you’d call them! The drama here is straight out of a soap opera: “As the Court Turns” starring none other than Mr. Orange himself!

And calling the January 6th insurrection “not even a thing”? That’s the cherry on top! It’s like claiming the Titanic went down because of a minor plumbing issue. “Just a little splash, folks!” Your talent for downplaying such significant events is truly remarkable. Maybe the next time Trump says he’s the “chosen one,” you can reassure him it’s just a light-hearted joke.

You have this incredible ability to dodge facts and present your opinions with the confidence of a toddler arguing about dessert. It’s really something! So keep the punchlines coming! It’s like watching a stand-up comedy special where the headliner is convinced they’re killing it, but we’re just here for the laughs and to witness the spectacular show of “alternative intelligence.” Good times, indeed!

Oh, look who’s dropping hot takes like they’re going out of style! “Bald-faced lies”? Really? That’s some serious drama right there! I didn’t realize we were living in a soap opera where Fauci is the villain, twirling his mustache and plotting to deceive the masses—“Mwahahaha! Today’s agenda involves scaring everyone about a virus, and then I’ll nap!” Your conspiratorial flair really deserves an Oscar!

And your support for “level-headed liberal elitists" backing away from COVID? Wow, you’ve cracked the code, Sherlock! It’s like you’ve figured out that staying on a sinking ship is a questionable life choice. Meanwhile, I’m here watching from the lifeboat, enjoying some popcorn while you’re at the helm, convinced you’re sailing smoothly into calm waters—bless your heart for that confidence!

Honestly, I admire your loyalty, but you’ve got to realize that charging into battle with the rallying cry of “Fauci is the enemy!” sounds a bit like a child screaming at the shadows in their closet. It’s adorable, but we all know who really needs the therapy in this scenario. You must be the captain of the “S.S. Everything’s Fine” while the rest of us are sending out SOS signals and drinking the seawater labeled “facts.”

So full steam ahead on that ship—just keep waving that flag like the proud, confused sailor you are while others steer toward reasoned discussion. I mean, it’s a bold strategy, Cotton! Just remember, sometimes the view from the lifeboat is a lot clearer than from the captain's chair of a sinking ship. Good luck with that voyage; I’ll be over here, enjoying the show!
 
Guillotine said:
To a man, every Trump voter here has stated unequivocally, they did not vote for him to teach Sunday school.

You would benefit from being a little more honest in your criticisms.
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Just because I disagree with some of your opinions does not make me dishonest, maybe it is you simply being unable to handle a difference of opinion/adversity. Don’t be so liberal, toughen up a bit.
 
WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
Just because I disagree with some of your opinions does not make me dishonest, maybe it is you simply being unable to handle a difference of opinion/adversity. Don’t be so liberal, toughen up a bit.
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You insisted Trump supporters here approve of his moral indiscretions.

That is either woefully ignorant, or purposely deceitful. Maybe you could clear that up for me.
 
underthelights said:
Oh, we’re back for more, I see! Your unwavering confidence is impressive—almost as impressive as Trump’s ability to embrace his “unique” shade of orange. I mean, with that complexion, who needs filters? You're declaring these legal issues “not serious” like you’ve got a law degree hanging on the wall next to a poster of Trump’s hair—what a combo!
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Do you have a law degree?

underthelights said:
Let’s break it down. The Civil Fraud Case? Sure, it’s just a lawsuit that could cost Trump billions. No big deal, right? Just a little paperwork, like filling out a grocery list of “Things I Definitely Should Worry About.” It’s amazing how you’re so chill about it—your logic is as solid as Trump’s claim that he would have won the 2020 election if it weren’t for “the rigged system.”
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The case will be overturned on appeal.

Write that down.

underthelights said:
Then we have the Classified Documents Case. You say it’s dismissed? Maybe that’s your “bigly” misunderstanding of how real-world consequences work. Saying “it’s not serious” is as laughable as believing that holding onto classified documents is a casual hobby. “Look at my top-secret collection; it really ties the room together!”
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Jack Smith did dismiss it, dullard.

underthelights said:
As for the Election Interference Charges, you’re completely right! The Georgia case is on “life-support,” just like your grip on reality. You must be sourcing your facts from Trump’s Twitter account—“alternative facts” as you’d call them! The drama here is straight out of a soap opera: “As the Court Turns” starring none other than Mr. Orange himself!
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Nonsense. Fani is done.

Write that down as well.

underthelights said:
And calling the January 6th insurrection “not even a thing”? That’s the cherry on top! It’s like claiming the Titanic went down because of a minor plumbing issue. “Just a little splash, folks!” Your talent for downplaying such significant events is truly remarkable. Maybe the next time Trump says he’s the “chosen one,” you can reassure him it’s just a light-hearted joke.
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"INSURRECTION!" lmao

Can you point to a single "insurrection" in the history of mankind similar to the size, scope, duration, and lack of bloodshed as J-6?

Those "deadly" flagpoles and cell phone cameras really scared you, huh?

underthelights said:
You have this incredible ability to dodge facts and present your opinions with the confidence of a toddler arguing about dessert. It’s really something! So keep the punchlines coming! It’s like watching a stand-up comedy special where the headliner is convinced they’re killing it, but we’re just here for the laughs and to witness the spectacular show of “alternative intelligence.” Good times, indeed!
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Okay.

underthelights said:
Oh, look who’s dropping hot takes like they’re going out of style! “Bald-faced lies”? Really? That’s some serious drama right there! I didn’t realize we were living in a soap opera where Fauci is the villain, twirling his mustache and plotting to deceive the masses—“Mwahahaha! Today’s agenda involves scaring everyone about a virus, and then I’ll nap!” Your conspiratorial flair really deserves an Oscar!
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Thanks.

underthelights said:
And your support for “level-headed liberal elitists" backing away from COVID? Wow, you’ve cracked the code, Sherlock! It’s like you’ve figured out that staying on a sinking ship is a questionable life choice. Meanwhile, I’m here watching from the lifeboat, enjoying some popcorn while you’re at the helm, convinced you’re sailing smoothly into calm waters—bless your heart for that confidence!
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No arrogance there!

underthelights said:
Honestly, I admire your loyalty, but you’ve got to realize that charging into battle with the rallying cry of “Fauci is the enemy!” sounds a bit like a child screaming at the shadows in their closet. It’s adorable, but we all know who really needs the therapy in this scenario. You must be the captain of the “S.S. Everything’s Fine” while the rest of us are sending out SOS signals and drinking the seawater labeled “facts.”
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I've done no such thing, drama queen.

underthelights said:
So full steam ahead on that ship—just keep waving that flag like the proud, confused sailor you are while others steer toward reasoned discussion. I mean, it’s a bold strategy, Cotton! Just remember, sometimes the view from the lifeboat is a lot clearer than from the captain's chair of a sinking ship. Good luck with that voyage; I’ll be over here, enjoying the show!
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You write a whole bunch of words but say very little.

How about you sharpen it up and stop wasting bandwidth?
 
WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
Both things can and are true. Trump won in 2016 and 2024 but lost in 2020. Fanboys could not accept the 2020 results but Trump financially took advantage of it by raking in millions on a stop the steal BS.

To vote for Trump regarding policy, that is one thing. But to say, defend and admire the quality of the individual that Trump is….that is pure fanboy stupidity.
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To be clear, your examples of Americans loving lowlife people has not resulted in anyone winning the presidency before?

The rest of your post ...just TDS and denial that Kamala was a horrible candidate. Plus lack of awareness that constantly talking down to 75 million Americans doesn't play well.
 
Guillotine said:
You insisted Trump supporters here approve of his moral indiscretions.

That is either woefully ignorant, or purposely deceitful. Maybe you could clear that up for me.
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Oh come on, that is what you take from all of this. Do you need therapy to get you through this persecution? Do you believe I should take some sensitivity training?

I do believe the mass majority of MAGA are enablers. Even if you do disagree with something Trump, I don’t think many MAGA’s have the Colorado Ricky Mountain Oysters to call him out on it.
 
WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
Oh come on, that is what you take from all of this. Do you need therapy to get you through this persecution? Do you believe I should take some sensitivity training?
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Should I not take your postings seriously???

WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
I do believe the mass majority of MAGA are enablers. Even if you do disagree with something Trump, I don’t think many MAGA’s have the Colorado Ricky Mountain Oysters to call him out on it.
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Not sure what that means.

Again, we voted for policy, not Bible studies.

Stop being pig-headed.
 
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underthelights said:
While personal responsibility and choices definitely play significant roles in an individual's success, it’s important to recognize that the playing field isn’t always level for everyone. Since the BLM has been beaten to death here, take a look at many of America's Native American Reservations. For example, Standing Rock Reservation has an 85-90% unemployment rate. Are you suggesting that almost everyone there is equal to you, but is just lazy and doesn't have your work ethic? Or are you simply smarter than everyone else there? ...or is it partly due because they're stuck in an isolated area intentionally held down due to systematic oppression and racism? ...or does it meet somewhere in the middle? To suggest they have had equal opportunities to either of us is laughable and illustrates your lack real world perspective.

Consider that some people face obstacles that others might not even see. Factors like access to quality education, healthcare, socioeconomic background, and even systemic biases can all impact one’s opportunities, regardless of their work ethic.

So while it’s true that life choices are crucial, it’s also essential to acknowledge that not everyone starts the race from the same line, and sometimes the hurdles placed in front of people aren’t of their making. It’s all part of a larger conversation about creating a society that fosters both opportunity and support for everyone, so we can work toward more equitable outcomes together. We want to encourage hard work, but let’s also make sure not to ignore the systems that can hold people back. Look at us both sound utopian. :ROFLMAO:
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You make a good point about Indian reservations. It’s so sad that people who live on the reservations aren’t allowed to leave in search of jobs or education so they can create a better life for themselves and their families.
 
underthelights said:
It sounds like we’ve got a real conspiracy detective over here! Kudos to you for putting on your tin foil hat and embarking on an epic quest for the truth, complete with a side of sarcasm. You're obviously brilliant!

I mean, the way you summarized all these complex topics makes it sound like you’re trying to win a gold medal in the Olympic sport of Creative Outrage. “Did you believe the fake news three-year Russia collusion hoax, or Trump?” Wow, it’s almost like you’re running for the title of “Most Dedicated Fan of the One True Narrative!”

And let’s not forget the classic jab about Fauci and “your fake news.” It’s almost as if you think Dr. Fauci is secretly plotting to take over the world with his extensive knowledge of viruses and infectious diseases, like a villain in a superhero movie, but with a stethoscope instead of a cape.

Your mention of the 51 intelligence officials sounds like the start of a bad joke: “51 intelligence officials walk into a bar…”—guess what? It’s hard to tell a good story when everyone’s got their own version of events, right? And let’s not skip over the charming suggestion to “chase your horse dewormer with bleach.” I mean, that’s a cocktail idea that could only come from the wildest imagination! Who knew health advice could sound like a twisted recipe for disaster?

But hey, I get it. You’ve got a whole arsenal of quips ready to go, and you’re keeping your conspiracy theory engine running at full speed. But while you’re busy unearthing what you deem the “truth,” maybe we can all take a breather and focus on verified information, just a thought! I understand those are hard for you...bBecause, you know, it’s hard to navigate such a wild landscape when everyone’s shouting from different rooftops. Maybe we could aim for some friendly dialogue instead of a comedic roast, shall we? Although this is at least entertaining.
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All of what you called conspiracy theories are actually now "conspiracy fact" and fully verified ... they were very easy to spot with a minimal amount of intelligence and logic.
There is probably no better example of "conspiracy theory" ever perpetrated on mankind than Trump Russia collusion hoax, or the multiple Covid lies. The "51 intelligence officials" was massive election interference as the FBI has now admitted the Bidden laptop was confirmed 5 months prior to that hoax. The 51 had security clearance and obviously knew this.

What is the name of your indoctrination camp?
 
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winbypin said:
The next 4 years are going to be awesome.
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.....and that Big Orange SOB ain't even sworn in yet. Wait til he starts rounding up them 15 million third world illegals, and Elon and Vivek go to work on them unelected bureaucrats. The sky screaming and gnashing of teeth by the Leftists is gonna' be some "Must See TV".
 
Steel Valley FB said:
You make a good point about Indian reservations. It’s so sad that people who live on the reservations aren’t allowed to leave in search of jobs or education so they can create a better life for themselves and their families.
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Oh, I see what you did there! Nice little twist of sarcasm you’ve got going on! You had me for a second..."not allowed to leave"? What’s next, are we saying they’re all just waiting for a bus that never comes? Just picture everyone standing at the reservation bus stop, sipping coffee, and saying, “Hey, let’s just hang out here forever!” Truly a captivating image!

Leaving reservations presents challenges for many Native Americans due to a variety of factors, including historical, systemic, economic, and social issues. Here are some of the primary reasons:

  1. Economic Limitations: Many reservations experience high levels of poverty and unemployment. This lack of economic opportunity means that even if individuals want to leave in search of better jobs, they often lack the financial resources to do so. The cost of moving or relocating elsewhere can be prohibitive.
  2. Access to Education and Training: While some reservations may have educational institutions, they often lack the resources and programs available in urban areas. Limited access to quality education and vocational training can hinder the ability of individuals to acquire the skills needed to secure better job opportunities outside the reservation.
  3. Legal and Bureaucratic Barriers: Native American tribes are sovereign nations, which means there are legal protocols involved in leaving the land. In some cases, individuals may face bureaucratic hurdles to obtaining the necessary documentation or permissions to move, especially if they are part of programs offering aid or resources tied to their residence on the reservation.
  4. Cultural Ties: Many Native Americans have strong cultural and familial ties to their communities. Leaving a reservation can mean separating from family, traditions, and cultural identity, which can be a significant emotional hurdle. The importance of community can deter individuals from relocating, even if opportunities exist elsewhere.

But let’s be real for a moment. The struggles faced by people on reservations are no joke, even if your comments are served with a side of irony. Economic opportunities and access to education are massive hurdles that can feel impossible to overcome. So while your facetiousness is entertaining, it shouldn’t overshadow the real issues that many indigenous communities encounter.
But hey, I appreciate the humor! It’s always refreshing to see someone blend a little wit with serious topics. Still, let’s try to balance the sarcasm with real discussions on how we can actually improve the lives of those living on reservations. Maybe find ways to break down those barriers you so cleverly teased! Now that would be a point worth making!
 
JUSTGOPLAY said:
.....and that Big Orange SOB ain't even sworn in yet. Wait til he starts rounding up them 15 million third world illegals, and Elon and Vivek go to work on them unelected bureaucrats. The sky screaming and gnashing of teeth by the Leftists is gonna' be some "Must See TV".
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The likelihood is that not much will actually change. I'm just enjoying the discourse. The only difference is that you will have a marginalized population to blame for the fact that you never amounted to much in life rather than accepting the fact that you aren't nearly as brilliant and talented as your momma told you were as a child. It truly isn't your own fault... you were just born this way.
 
JUSTGOPLAY said:
.....and that Big Orange SOB ain't even sworn in yet. Wait til he starts rounding up them 15 million third world illegals, and Elon and Vivek go to work on them unelected bureaucrats. The sky screaming and gnashing of teeth by the Leftists is gonna' be some "Must See TV".
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Don’t forget Mexico paying for the wall … and locking up Hillary … 😂😂😂
 
joesports said:
Don’t forget Mexico paying for the wall … and locking up Hillary … 😂😂😂
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Nah, that's so 2016......this time around the focus is on deporting them 15 million third world illegals the Leftists smuggled in, and gutting all them Federal Bureaucracies. Starting with that ridiculous Department of Education through the EPA. Club them Unelected Federal Regulators like a baby seal, and everything else falls into place.
 
underthelights said:
The likelihood is that not much will actually change. I'm just enjoying the discourse. The only difference is that you will have a marginalized population to blame for the fact that you never amounted to much in life rather than accepting the fact that you aren't nearly as brilliant and talented as your momma told you were as a child. It truly isn't your own fault... you were just born this way.
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When I accuse you of being an arrogant snot, you're not obligated to prove it.

lmao
 
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