What about the peaceful transition?

 
Swatting should carry a penalty well above attempted murder.
Not only are you trying to get someone killed, you are trying to end a career/ jail a police officer and using resources that could end up costing someone else their life.

The thing is, if these people were trespassers on Jan 6th the FBI would have them in solitary by now.
The state controlled fake news propagandist gave these people this condition and they also should be held accountable.
 
gneiss rocks said:
Swatting should carry a penalty well above attempted murder.
Not only are you trying to get someone killed, you are trying to end a career/ jail a police officer and using resources that could end up costing someone else their life.

The thing is, if these people were trespassers on Jan 6th the FBI would have them in solitary by now.
The state controlled fake news propagandist gave these people this condition and they also should be held accountable.
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Individuals who call in swatting incidents or threaten violence to those appointed/nominated should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Those on J6 were not “just trespassers”, they were preventing the process of a peaceful transfer of power on a fair & just election. If they would have shot the first few “trespassers”, there would have been far fewer attempt to “trespass”. One is far less likely to continue on if they have to step over a shot person. How many continued to go pass Ashley after she was shot?
 
WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
Individuals who call in swatting incidents or threaten violence to those appointed/nominated should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Those on J6 were not “just trespassers”, they were preventing the process of a peaceful transfer of power on a fair & just election. If they would have shot the first few “trespassers”, there would have been far fewer attempt to “trespass”. One is far less likely to continue on if they have to step over a shot person. How many continued to go pass Ashley after she was shot?
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The only thing they prevented was debate regarding the election. Republicans were not certifying the election until they were backed into a corner by the knuckleheads.
 
y2h said:
The only thing they prevented was debate regarding the election. Republicans were not certifying the election until they were backed into a corner by the knuckleheads.
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If the D’s were to do that on J6, 2025 would you feel the same? I do not believe you would. If D’s were to do on J6, 2025 was MAGA did on J6, 2020, I would want far more than just one ‘Ashley’ shot. It was a fair & just election in 2020 & 2024.
 
WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
If the D’s were to do that on J6, 2025 would you feel the same? I do not believe you would. If D’s were to do on J6, 2025 was MAGA did on J6, 2020, I would want far more than just one ‘Ashley’ shot. It was a fair & just election in 2020 & 2024.
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Was there a peaceful election transition when Trump won in 2016 or did the left try to push the fake Russia collusion story for the entire four years Trump was president?
 
Come talk to me when Biden or Kamala incite a riot and try to keep Trump for holding the office of President. All were legit elections. I just can’t get past how the working class believes a fake billionaire who nominates his billionaire buddies is the answer to the woes of the working class. He legit called us “the herd” when talking about herd immunity. Whether you agree with the science of how herd immunity works or not, calling the working class a f-ing herd should tell you all you need to know about how the folks in his circle view us.

He is putting Elon Musk in a position of power. He named it the Department of Government Efficiency. DOGE. What is Elon a major stakeholder in???? F-ing dogecoin, DOGE If you’re one who pays attention to that sort of thing.

Anyways, I’m off topic. The Biden admin are cooperative in the peaceful transfer of power. This is just a “woe is me” attempt to suggest otherwise.
 
underthelights said:
Come talk to me when Biden or Kamala incite a riot and try to keep Trump for holding the office of President. All were legit elections. I just can’t get past how the working class believes a fake billionaire who nominates his billionaire buddies is the answer to the woes of the working class. He legit called us “the herd” when talking about herd immunity. Whether you agree with the science of how herd immunity works or not, calling the working class a f-ing herd should tell you all you need to know about how the folks in his circle view us.

He is putting Elon Musk in a position of power. He named it the Department of Government Efficiency. DOGE. What is Elon a major stakeholder in???? F-ing dogecoin, DOGE If you’re one who pays attention to that sort of thing.

Anyways, I’m off topic. The Biden admin are cooperative in the peaceful transfer of power. This is just a “woe is me” attempt to suggest otherwise.
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Cry much?
 
underthelights said:
Come talk to me when Biden or Kamala incite a riot and try to keep Trump for holding the office of President. All were legit elections. I just can’t get past how the working class believes a fake billionaire who nominates his billionaire buddies is the answer to the woes of the working class. He legit called us “the herd” when talking about herd immunity. Whether you agree with the science of how herd immunity works or not, calling the working class a f-ing herd should tell you all you need to know about how the folks in his circle view us.

He is putting Elon Musk in a position of power. He named it the Department of Government Efficiency. DOGE. What is Elon a major stakeholder in???? F-ing dogecoin, DOGE If you’re one who pays attention to that sort of thing.

Anyways, I’m off topic. The Biden admin are cooperative in the peaceful transfer of power. This is just a “woe is me” attempt to suggest otherwise.
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Of course Biden is cooperative, he gets to stick it to Kamala and her cabal for their coup.

BTW...it's kind of weird to be cooperative in turning over the government to Hitler right? Or was all that Nazi-Hitler-fascist stuff just propaganda? Maybe that should tell you how Dems view you.
 
WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
Individuals who call in swatting incidents or threaten violence to those appointed/nominated should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Those on J6 were not “just trespassers”, they were preventing the process of a peaceful transfer of power on a fair & just election. If they would have shot the first few “trespassers”, there would have been far fewer attempt to “trespass”. One is far less likely to continue on if they have to step over a shot person. How many continued to go pass Ashley after she was shot?
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So they weren't really insurrectionist... not serious ones anyhow if a dead body stopped them.
 
y2h said:
Of course Biden is cooperative, he gets to stick it to Kamala and her cabal for their coup.

BTW...it's kind of weird to be cooperative in turning over the government to Hitler right? Or was all that Nazi-Hitler-fascist stuff just propaganda? Maybe that should tell you how Dems view you.
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They even had Hitler in the White House recently. Shouldn’t the worst human of all time been arrested…or shot…again?
 
JUSTGOPLAY said:
A Lefty comes into the debate forum for the sole purpose of getting a rise out of normal folks, then gets all butthurt when they get a rise out of normal folks......Classic
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A righty comes into a debate forum with some people who can think for themselves acting like a tough guy and then gets all butthurt when a "lefty" calls them out for it.... classic.

That's a pretty easy game to play. ;)

I genuinely wasn't just trying to get a rise. I don't equate what was posted to being an uprising equal to what happened on Jan 6th. Sadly, that moment opened up pandoras box for more egregious political blockades. You could argue it started early in the first Trump administration when the Republicans blocked the Obama supreme court nomination in order to get another republican nominee on the court, and then again at the end of the first Trump administration when the hustled through his last appointment to the court.
 
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So they weren't really insurrectionist... not serious ones anyhow if a dead body stopped them.
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It doesn’t matter what they were, their actions were breaking the law and the consequences of their actions was disrupting the peaceful transfer of power in our country from a fair and just election. I do not care if they were MAGA’s (they were), liberals, Black Lives Matters, Antifa - if anyone does again what they did they should be shot.
 
WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
Those on J6 were not “just trespassers”, they were preventing the process of a peaceful transfer of power on a fair & just election.
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Hog wash. They went home for supper after protesting. This insurrection nonsense makes you people look more unhinged every time you repeat it.

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If they would have shot the first few “trespassers”, there would have been far fewer attempt to “trespass”.
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Well said, comrade.

WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
How many continued to go pass Ashley after she was shot?
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Ashley was murder by a racist animal. Hopefully Trump prosecutes him.
 
WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
It doesn’t matter what they were, their actions were breaking the law and the consequences of their actions was disrupting the peaceful transfer of power in our country from a fair and just election. I do not care if they were MAGA’s (they were), liberals, Black Lives Matters, Antifa - if anyone does again what they did they should be shot.
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I find it interesting how many of the MAGA crowd defends them but when there were protests in Baltimore, LA, Minneapolis, etc... but I think I have figured it out and have created a guide to help all of you that are confused.

A Guide to Understanding Why One Protest is "Patriotic" and the Other "Criminal"
  1. Setting the Scene: Context is Key! If you're planning a protest, it’s all about the venue. Storming the U.S. Capitol? Clearly a whimsical display of patriotism! After all, it’s the home of democracy! Protesting in public spaces for social justice? Criminal behavior! - those are meant for leisurely strolls and picnics, not passionate pleas for equality.
  2. Participants' Attire: Fashion Statements Matter! Make sure to wear the right gear. Donning tactical vests and waving flags? That’s fashion-forward! Meanwhile, wearing black tees and shouting for justice? Only associated with troublemakers... didn’t they realize black is a slimming color, not a revolutionary statement?
  3. Objectives: Goals Define Morality! If your goals include restoring a dubious and fabricated election narrative, that’s noble! But if you’re advocating for civil rights, fairness, and accountability, well, then you’re clearly up to no good. Everyone knows justice is a slippery slope, best left for the courts and not the streets!
  4. Reactions from Authorities: A Clear Indicator! When you’re met with a lightly sprinkled presence of law enforcement, obviously it's because the mood was festive! Conversely, when a peaceful protest sees a militarized response, it’s simply because they must ‘keep the peace.'Clearly peace can be quite intimidating.
  5. Media Coverage: The Final Word! If the media’s framing highlights chaos, it’s an insurrection; when it focuses on peaceful messages, it’s somehow a violent riot. Forget looking beyond headlines; just remember, narrative consistency is for nerds.
 
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I find it interesting how many of the MAGA crowd defends them but when there were protests in Baltimore, LA, Minneapolis, etc... but I think I have figured it out and have created a guide to help all of you that are confused.

A Guide to Understanding Why One Protest is "Patriotic" and the Other "Criminal"
  1. Setting the Scene: Context is Key! If you're planning a protest, it’s all about the venue. Storming the U.S. Capitol? Clearly a whimsical display of patriotism! After all, it’s the home of democracy! Protesting in public spaces for social justice? Criminal behavior—those are meant for leisurely strolls and picnics, not passionate pleas for equality.
  2. Participants' Attire: Fashion Statements Matter! Make sure to wear the right gear. Donning tactical vests and waving flags? That’s fashion-forward! Meanwhile, wearing black tees and shouting for justice? Only associated with troublemakers... didn’t they realize black is a slimming color, not a revolutionary statement?
  3. Objectives: Goals Define Morality! If your goals include restoring a dubious and fabricated election narrative, that’s noble! But if you’re advocating for civil rights, fairness, and accountability, well, then you’re clearly up to no good. Everyone knows justice is a slippery slope, best left for the courts and not the streets!
  4. Reactions from Authorities: A Clear Indicator! When you’re met with a lightly sprinkled presence of law enforcement, obviously it's because the mood was festive! Conversely, when a peaceful protest sees a militarized response, it’s simply because they must ‘keep the peace.'Clearly peace can be quite intimidating.
  5. Media Coverage: The Final Word! If the media’s framing highlights chaos, it’s an insurrection; when it focuses on peaceful messages, it’s somehow a violent riot. Forget looking beyond headlines; just remember, narrative consistency is for .
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I find it interesting that there isn’t the least bit of interest in the pipe bombs that were found on J6. Add in the missing security recordings and has never been solved.
 
underthelights said:
I find it interesting how many of the MAGA crowd defends them but when there were protests in Baltimore, LA, Minneapolis, etc... but I think I have figured it out and have created a guide to help all of you that are confused.

A Guide to Understanding Why One Protest is "Patriotic" and the Other "Criminal"
  1. Setting the Scene: Context is Key! If you're planning a protest, it’s all about the venue. Storming the U.S. Capitol? Clearly a whimsical display of patriotism! After all, it’s the home of democracy! Protesting in public spaces for social justice? Criminal behavior! - those are meant for leisurely strolls and picnics, not passionate pleas for equality.
  2. Participants' Attire: Fashion Statements Matter! Make sure to wear the right gear. Donning tactical vests and waving flags? That’s fashion-forward! Meanwhile, wearing black tees and shouting for justice? Only associated with troublemakers... didn’t they realize black is a slimming color, not a revolutionary statement?
  3. Objectives: Goals Define Morality! If your goals include restoring a dubious and fabricated election narrative, that’s noble! But if you’re advocating for civil rights, fairness, and accountability, well, then you’re clearly up to no good. Everyone knows justice is a slippery slope, best left for the courts and not the streets!
  4. Reactions from Authorities: A Clear Indicator! When you’re met with a lightly sprinkled presence of law enforcement, obviously it's because the mood was festive! Conversely, when a peaceful protest sees a militarized response, it’s simply because they must ‘keep the peace.'Clearly peace can be quite intimidating.
  5. Media Coverage: The Final Word! If the media’s framing highlights chaos, it’s an insurrection; when it focuses on peaceful messages, it’s somehow a violent riot. Forget looking beyond headlines; just remember, narrative consistency is for nerds.
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1A: everyone has equality in 2024. Any narrative that says otherwise is propaganda. 1B: what happened at the Capitol has been criticized by conservatives from the moment it happened.

The election itself was dubious.

When buildings are burning down in the background it's not a "mostly peaceful " protest. When police stations and federal buildings were under attack from BLM/Antifa I don't remember an insurrection narrative from the media. Only when it's alleged right wingers it becomes a narrative.
 
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