JoeMontana
Cooling Off
swimmeet projects St X 265, UA 150, St. F 130
I think that's about right, but I could see X getting closer to the 280 range...
swimmeet projects St X 265, UA 150, St. F 130
With or without their 200 free relay and Connor Trimble, St. Francis wasn't going to top UA. UA will pick up at least 30 points in the 200 & 500 alone. Don't be fooled by swimmeet.com's projected score. UA will outscore that projection by 100 points. So even if the "if onlys" had happened, St. Francis would be swimming for third place.
100 points? Not a chance, I'm sure UA will swim great but there is just no way they can pick up those kinds of points.
With or without their 200 relay the best St. Francis could hope for is third. We will swim the meet to show that UA has returned to the top. Look out X the Bears have arrived!!! And this week they'll be fully rested.
Congrats to X on another dominant performance, as the state of Ohio and observers nationwide have come to expect..
Interesting to see Moeller break the top 10. With the lack of talent, questionable coaching, and seemingly lazy kids, I think they really placed ahead of where most predicted they would fall.
It's interesting to note that for having so little talent, and no swimmers that would be considered very talented, Moeller made the scoreboard.
Perhaps next year if the kids but in a bit of effort, and the general incompetence in the program subsides, they may crack the scoreboard again...
next year will be very close though with sc, with sc actually being a slight favorite at this point, although they haven't swam very well the last few years not going much faster at states then they did at ne classic![]()
JoeMontana,
Cant tell if you are displaying some sarcasm or just dislike of Moeller. I've known Coach Bill for years, he is a great guy that cares for his swimmers.
Not sure where you are coming from saying there is a lack of talent. They dont appear to be deep however getting 3 relays to score and having 2 individuals get top 3 seems like some talent.
The Nymberg kid may have been a slight surprise getting 3rd in fly however he was seeded well after districts.
The sophmore George didnt exactly come out of nowhere. He was top 16 in the 200 and 500 as a freshman and top 5 in both this year. You may not think that is talent however there is not a coach in the state that wouldnt want that talent back for 2 more years. We'd love to have at UA to replace JLong.
JoeMontana, so your saying since Moeller is unable to sustain any real advancement that they are lacking talent? No team can sustain things like StX. When you have 80-90 guys on the team every year its much easier to do. Even UA, SC and StF will have off years. Your first point is some what valid. Looking at their roster they dont have many swimmers on the team. However they do have several swimmers with talent otherwise they would not have finished where they did. Not sure how you can say the 2nd point. Moeller does not have their own pool so the swimmers would have to train with their club teams. Unless you are going to watch practices at all the represented club teams you have no clue as to what you are talking about saying they dont train as hard as they can. Sounds to me like you have an axe to grind.
Not correct.
The talent at Moeller is lacking.
They may have the occasional surge of low times in various meets, but, the program is unable to sustain any real advancement (ie--STX).
I attribute this to many factors.
First, I don't think, quite frankly, that the kids are particularly strong swimmers.
Second, i do not believe they train as hard as they can. I believe there is some loafing, per se.
Third, I think the overall attitude could be a part of the problem.
Next year is wide open for a change. Those seniors are finally gone at X. I am sure they have swimmers waiting in the wings, but I doubt they will be the same quality as the graduating swimmers. All schools have a chance to get a title in 2014, but X will factor heavily into the equation. St. Francis only had 4 swimmers scoring points at the state meet this year and they finished fourth. They have 3 of those swimmers back and they have 3 sophomores who need to make a big jump as their juniors did this year. They also have two other current juniors who are on the cusp of scoring at the state meet. And, they will be practicing relay starts a little more this year so look out!!!!
Next year is wide open for a change. Those seniors are finally gone at X. I am sure they have swimmers waiting in the wings, but I doubt they will be the same quality as the graduating swimmers.
STX doesn't "rebuild", they "reload"
It may be an overuse cliche...but it has definitely described STX for 30+ years...
When STX is "up", there's a 99% chance they win state...when they're "down", there's an 80% chance they win state...
Good problem to have...
Also, I have heard the incoming freshman may be the best class in 10+ years, and will make some noise!!