Should We End the Special Relationship with Great Britain?

It's insane to just allow people in who openly say and express that they want to turn the country they just came to into the same dump of a country they just left. They openly say they hate the Western Civilization and how we operate, yet we should somehow feel bad for smacking them on the hand and telling them n0-no like a toddler. They want to rule by the literal word of a book written 1400 years ago by a blood hungry psychopath. That is not the way. Europe is to far gone now for that to change. Their citizens are not allowed to fight back for fear of being arrested because the polticians want to get re-elected.
 

There we have it: some issues deserve the lectern treatment (Far Right Thuggery), and some issues don’t (rape of thousands of girls in towns mainly in the north of England). Some victims count (middle-class women of a certain age who work in the media), and some victims don’t (white working-class girls in Rotherham).

The disgustingly disproportionate media focus on the alleged wrongdoing of Gregg Wallace, compared with the confirmed and brutal criminality of, say, Shahzad Nowaz of Halifax, tells us yet again how the mainstream media operate, namely in a ruthless and immoral fashion always designed to protect the Big Lie, that there are no downsides to mass immigration. The girls of Rotherham and Oxford would beg to differ.
 
London Calling, again. It's gonna pop this time.



“London calling to the faraway towns
Now war is declared, and battle come down
London calling to the underworld
Come out of the cupboard, you boys and girls
London calling, now don't look to us
Phoney Beatlemania has bitten the dust”

By far my favorite Clash tune. I typically prefer the Sex Pistols for the original wave of British punk bands but one can never go wrong with the clash.
 
“London calling to the faraway towns
Now war is declared, and battle come down
London calling to the underworld
Come out of the cupboard, you boys and girls
London calling, now don't look to us
Phoney Beatlemania has bitten the dust”

By far my favorite Clash tune. I typically prefer the Sex Pistols for the original wave of British punk bands but one can never go wrong with the clash.
Sharif don't like it
 

Royal societies are urging the Government to make science less “Western” in an overhaul of the school curriculum.

“Instead of continuing with a rich, knowledge-based curriculum which has led to our children being the best readers and mathematicians in the Western world, they are tearing it all up.

Pure education vandalism once again.”
 

Royal societies are urging the Government to make science less “Western” in an overhaul of the school curriculum.

“Instead of continuing with a rich, knowledge-based curriculum which has led to our children being the best readers and mathematicians in the Western world, they are tearing it all up.

Pure education vandalism once again.”
Education is access, knowledge is power. Sounds like they want to limit access and cut personal power.
 
Education is access, knowledge is power. Sounds like they want to limit access and cut personal power.
they have a differen rich-poor dynamic than us. Whereas concern here is that Ivy grads have way too much power being glad-handed and worse, passed down, their problem reaches far down into the primary schools. Labour looks to tax private school tuition as they would any purchase. Their old money privates are islands with their own surrounding towns. So others want minimums set for locals that must be allowed entrance for "social balance." Essentially saying admit children of those that are keeping the doors open.

They've been threatened by class wars for centuries. What's it ever come to?
 
they have a differen rich-poor dynamic than us. Whereas concern here is that Ivy grads have way too much power being glad-handed and worse, passed down, there problem reaches far down into the primary schools. Labour looks to tax private school tuition as they would any purchase. Their old money privates are islands with their own surrounding towns. So others want minimums set for locals that must be allowed entrance for "social balance." Essentially saying admit children of those that are keeping the doors open.

They've been threatened by class wars for centuries. What's it ever come to?
“Passed-down” is the only equity that I honor beyond “equal opportunity”, and my tax remittances have bought the children of others that opportunity, in spades. Having to be better to surpass passed-down is positive evolutionary pressure. Get up and run.

That’s what has made America great, so that is what the left attacks.. The left has turned equal opportunity into least common denominator.

Like I wrote you in here years ago, you and I don’t even think in the same language.

Our public primary schools have become trash indoctrination and grooming centers.
 
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they have a differen rich-poor dynamic than us. Whereas concern here is that Ivy grads have way too much power being glad-handed and worse, passed down, their problem reaches far down into the primary schools. Labour looks to tax private school tuition as they would any purchase. Their old money privates are islands with their own surrounding towns. So others want minimums set for locals that must be allowed entrance for "social balance." Essentially saying admit children of those that are keeping the doors open.

They've been threatened by class wars for centuries. What's it ever come to?
This may all be true, and IMO it is a sound take on the issues within the British education system, but to ignore or downplay the role of Western Civilization in creating the modern world through the explosion in STEM originating in Europe is not the way to correct social inequalities.
 
“Passed-down” is the only equity that I honor beyond “equal opportunity”, and my tax remittances have bought the children of others that opportunity, in spades. Having to be better to surpass passed-down is positive evolutionary pressure. Get up and run.

That’s what has made America great, so that is what the left attacks.. The left has turned equal opportunity into least common denominator.

Like I wrote you in here years ago, you and I don’t even think in the same language.

Our public primary schools have become trash indoctrination and grooming centers.
You've so many fears in you. Cabe I really don't care if you want to wear a dress. As a true conservative, I believe how you dress, what pronouns you want to use or ask me to use is referencing you is your business. Niether me nor the government should have a role other than to roll with it. Mind our own business.

I listen to no pod-casters, read no rhetoric. I was in the military. Were you? I've done civilian service for our country. Have you? I've sacrificed and put myself in harms way for the country. Have you? Very few of your little gang here have. Armchair patriots. ;)

You've given nothing to indicate you have any idea what goes on in a public primary school or any school so I'll presume none. You sheepsters get your jeans creamed by stories of rare uber-liberalism by some pod-master seeing your money in their click-bate.

Most teachers lean conservative. Particularly economically. Particularly in the urban core, they tend to be a higher economic, not prone to wanting to hand it over to the government for programs they can see first hand will be wasterful. If you bothered, you would find prayer groups in almost all public urban schools. They also object to their tax money being handed to private business (schools) without them having to work under the same government performance oversight as any public school. It's private. Pay for it the f yourself. Hope that helps.

"Passed Down"
I take it you don't spend much time listening quietly at the local country club. But that's the only presumption I have since your experience seems to vary widely from mine.

I won't say this discussion is easy. We don't disagree far from my take on your first paragraph. It's short (unlike mine, lol) so I don't want to presume too much.

I in no way feel estates should be dispersed to the "greater good." I'm not against SOME taxing after a certain point as is done.. I'm (those like me) not liberal, certainly not economically. BUT because I'm not ultra conservative socially, your pod-masters tell you I'm not on-board or whatever. IDGAF.

Passed down puts undue resources into weaker hands that never survived that darwinist approach you at the same time claim strengthens our country. They work with others similar to keep those who would rise our country's abilities from strenthening the country. They have a sincere fear there is limited space, jobs,... they want for their kids, friends, friend's kids. Those weakend schools to inhibit those you yourself say you want to rise up. They put unfair obstacles in the way, while manipulating the political system to move public funds into their private unobserved hands.

NO TRUE conservative should find that acceptable.

You should be able to see this locally. Maybe you are this locally. They'd rather be big fish in the small pond than be displaced. They'd even rather keep down those whose skills they might use if they feel those skills would rise to displace their legacy.

We call these "institutions" but they are in reality, mafias. They're not all "Trumps." Most are not "Trumps." They are largely cringy, weak holders of societal power working collectively to retain it.
 
This may all be true, and IMO it is a sound take on the issues within the British education system, but to ignore or downplay the role of Western Civilization in creating the modern world through the explosion in STEM originating in Europe is not the way to correct social inequalities.

IDGAF about "western civilization." I care about civilization. No idea what you mean by that so I won't presume.

I'm not sure their situation is more complex than ours. They have nowhere near the diversity of peoples, income, cultures. They've found their way through before but the pod-led here are all up in their shorts, the world is ending. They have handled integration MUCH better. We have idiots here worrying about who is in commercials, which wouldn't be so laughble if it wasn't a whole movement of people claiming to be "conservative."

London is more than 50% brown. Take a peak over the northern border. Leave f-in Ohio. They're economically growing leaps and bounds even under that too close to socialism system. We have a problem and not being able to figure out what "conservative" refers to is at the core. I DGAF if someone wants to staple their dick or who they fall in love with or who they bed. I care when they start using my taxes and not giving me a vote on it, even if I lose that vote. Huffman, noone should support that sweetie, let alone a MAGA. But you all got your marching orders and you're taking them without daring a question.
 
One anointing himself as a true Conservative is humorous.

Anytime someone mentions serving to gain an advantage in support of politics is very wrong.

Public education is a cesspool. This generation will be a throwaway generation. Colleges no longer hold a monopoly on the term "higher education" ROI for graduating students is not feasible for most. How much money do these institutions give to the Democrats?

London has no go zones. They have open the doors to immigrants that don't want to assimilate. You evidently don't keep up with the free speech problems of England. The Globalist have ruined the Country. Read a little and notice the political trajectory of the Country.

Some claim to be Conservative and are mere RINOs. Sad they can't figure out why.

IDGAF either!
 
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You've so many fears in you. Cabe I really don't care if you want to wear a dress. As a true conservative, I believe how you dress, what pronouns you want to use or ask me to use is referencing you is your business. Niether me nor the government should have a role other than to roll with it. Mind our own business.

I listen to no pod-casters, read no rhetoric. I was in the military. Were you? I've done civilian service for our country. Have you? I've sacrificed and put myself in harms way for the country. Have you? Very few of your little gang here have. Armchair patriots. ;)

You've given nothing to indicate you have any idea what goes on in a public primary school or any school so I'll presume none. You sheepsters get your jeans creamed by stories of rare uber-liberalism by some pod-master seeing your money in their click-bate.

Most teachers lean conservative. Particularly economically. Particularly in the urban core, they tend to be a higher economic, not prone to wanting to hand it over to the government for programs they can see first hand will be wasterful. If you bothered, you would find prayer groups in almost all public urban schools. They also object to their tax money being handed to private business (schools) without them having to work under the same government performance oversight as any public school. It's private. Pay for it the f yourself. Hope that helps.

"Passed Down"
I take it you don't spend much time listening quietly at the local country club. But that's the only presumption I have since your experience seems to vary widely from mine.

I won't say this discussion is easy. We don't disagree far from my take on your first paragraph. It's short (unlike mine, lol) so I don't want to presume too much.

I in no way feel estates should be dispersed to the "greater good." I'm not against SOME taxing after a certain point as is done.. I'm (those like me) not liberal, certainly not economically. BUT because I'm not ultra conservative socially, your pod-masters tell you I'm not on-board or whatever. IDGAF.

Passed down puts undue resources into weaker hands that never survived that darwinist approach you at the same time claim strengthens our country. They work with others similar to keep those who would rise our country's abilities from strenthening the country. They have a sincere fear there is limited space, jobs,... they want for their kids, friends, friend's kids. Those weakend schools to inhibit those you yourself say you want to rise up. They put unfair obstacles in the way, while manipulating the political system to move public funds into their private unobserved hands.

NO TRUE conservative should find that acceptable.

You should be able to see this locally. Maybe you are this locally. They'd rather be big fish in the small pond than be displaced. They'd even rather keep down those whose skills they might use if they feel those skills would rise to displace their legacy.

We call these "institutions" but they are in reality, mafias. They're not all "Trumps." Most are not "Trumps." They are largely cringy, weak holders of societal power working collectively to retain it.
Straight BS, sprinkled evenly throughout. From what language is this translated ?
 
IDGAF about "western civilization." I care about civilization. No idea what you mean by that so I won't presume.
The modern civilization you care about has largely been created as a result of the philosophical, religious, political and scientific elements of WESTERN CIVILIZATION. My post was questioning why schools in Great Britain at the heart of Western Civilization would stigmatize and try to move away from a "western" concept of science.
I'm not sure their situation is more complex than ours. They have nowhere near the diversity of peoples, income, cultures. They've found their way through before but the pod-led here are all up in their shorts, the world is ending. They have handled integration MUCH better. We have idiots here worrying about who is in commercials, which wouldn't be so laughble if it wasn't a whole movement of people claiming to be "conservative."
Have they handled integration better then the United States? They don't allow people to air their dirty laundry in public as we do but keeping a lid on it is as likely to lead to an explosion as it is to everyone living happily ever after. Let's see what Britain looks like 10 years.
London is more than 50% brown. Take a peak over the northern border. Leave f-in Ohio. They're economically growing leaps and bounds even under that too close to socialism system. We have a problem and not being able to figure out what "conservative" refers to is at the core. I DGAF if someone wants to staple their dick or who they fall in love with or who they bed. I care when they start using my taxes and not giving me a vote on it, even if I lose that vote. Huffman, noone should support that sweetie, let alone a MAGA. But you all got your marching orders and you're taking them without daring a question.
I have spent considerable time outside of Ohio, especially in Canada. And if you think Canada is outperforming the United States you're wrong.

As an aside why are so nasty in your response here? These are legitimate points of difference and you don't have to throw insults out to bolster your POV.
 
The modern civilization you care about has largely been created as a result of the philosophical, religious, political and scientific elements of WESTERN CIVILIZATION. My post was questioning why schools in Great Britain at the heart of Western Civilization would stigmatize and try to move away from a "western" concept of science.

Have they handled integration better then the United States? They don't allow people to air their dirty laundry in public as we do but keeping a lid on it is as likely to lead to an explosion as it is to everyone living happily ever after. Let's see what Britain looks like 10 years.

I have spent considerable time outside of Ohio, especially in Canada. And if you think Canada is outperforming the United States you're wrong.

As an aside why are so nasty in your response here? These are legitimate points of difference and you don't have to throw insults out to bolster your POV.
I agree. This has been IMO the best conversation this site has ever had.
 
ÀAnd of course if you want to pretend everything is just fine, jail those that point out the horrors you're hiding:


Ah the wisdom of government being the arbiter of truth and thought so as to maintain a safe social order. The problem of course is how is truth defined? Who decides what thoughts are pure enough to be expressed? I wonder how our liberal brethren would react to Trump establishing a Department of Truth to make certain speech and thought conformed to the principles of MAGA?
 
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