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It will be interesting to see how many DI football schools are left a decade from now. I'm guessing many schools will stop playing in the highest division and some will just quit playing altogether.
 
nwwarrior09 said:
An alternative viewpoint to some of the fan perspective here. There are any number of similar stories from not that long ago regarding roster management/over signing and those on the margins very much being year to year on scholarship and at serious risk of being cut loose for a better prospect by coaches with absolute control and zero loyalty to players.

Mercenaries are a problem — in particular IMO upwardly mobile mercenaries which screws over smaller programs and makes it impossible to compete with the big guys. However, for the most part the portal is making it easier for the marginal to find a landing spot or to find out they have no value elsewhere.

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That happens at all major programs when a new coach comes in. They are not shy about running off the dead wood to clear the way for their guys. Some are nicer about it than others, but they all do it. They are paid to win. They don’t have time to waste on players that don’t fit.
 
Yappi said:
It will be interesting to see how many DI football schools are left a decade from now. I'm guessing many schools will stop playing in the highest division and some will just quit playing altogether.
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There will eventually be a division that is a step in-between D1 and FCS/D1AA IMO. 40-50 schools will be D1 while the lesser major conference teams and the mid-majors fall to that level in-between.
 
This is a basketball article, but applies to the basis of this thread.

An absolutely crazy lawsuit. Clock is ticking on the NCAA as we know it.

“The lawsuit argues that "student-athletes’ value to the NCAA does not end with their graduation," according to the Associated Press. "Archival footage and other products constitute an ongoing income stream for the NCAA long after the students whose images are used have moved on from college."

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10 members of NC State's 1983 national champions sue NCAA over name, image and likeness compensation

Ten players from North Carolina State’s 1983 national champion basketball team have sued the NCAA and the Collegiate Licensing Company seeking compensation for unauthorized use of their name, image and likeness.
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Crusaders said:
I don't care about the NCAA. Preventing people from working and making money off their name and recognition was always wrong. I hope they're sued into complete liquidation.
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The NCAA was/is the schools themselves. They are the creators of the NCAA as the governing body of college athletics. There is nothing about the NCAA to sue, it’s the schools that will be going to court. One thing lost in all of this is the rules were different before NIL. The players that played before NIL received the compensation they agreed to under the rules of that time. Nobody forced Braylon Edwards, or anyone else, to play football in exchange for having their entire college experience paid for. You can’t re-write history. Now I will agree that Braylon Edwards or Archie Griffin or The Boz should be getting paid when their likeness and merchandise are used NOW, but not before the rules and laws were changed.
 
Crusaders said:
I don't care about the NCAA. Preventing people from working and making money off their name and recognition was always wrong. I hope they're sued into complete liquidation.
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That is where college sports is heading unless Congress creates some type of antitrust exemption.

Either way, the gambling industry is going to demand some type of regulation, so if NCAA exists or not, athletes will be treated as contracted employees. Collective bargaining agreements will be struck to establish rules of the contracts and rules of the game.

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cjb5656 said:
The NCAA was/is the schools themselves. They are the creators of the NCAA as the governing body of college athletics. There is nothing about the NCAA to sue, it’s the schools that will be going to court. One thing lost in all of this is the rules were different before NIL. The players that played before NIL received the compensation they agreed to under the rules of that time. Nobody forced Braylon Edwards, or anyone else, to play football in exchange for having their entire college experience paid for. You can’t re-write history. Now I will agree that Braylon Edwards or Archie Griffin or The Boz should be getting paid when their likeness and merchandise are used NOW, but not before the rules and laws were changed.
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Well yes. What I meant was I hope the organization is sued into a complete restructuring or dissolution.

You’re arguing for cohersion and mob tactics. There are no alternatives to college football for anyone wanting to play in the NFL. With only one route the monopoly held via those contracts was immoral at best. It’s dubious whether such a contract is even legal.
 
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UNLV QB Matt Sluka Quits Team After Three Games Due To Broken Promises, Shocking The College Football World

UNLV QB Matt Sluka has decided to leave the team after three games due to un-fulfilled promises regarding NIL, off-field issues.
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I don’t agree with the article that this is a bad look for the QB. He has been there for probably more than 3 months. If one goes to work for a company and after 3 months you haven’t been compensated as promised and they have told you you won’t be in the future either, why should he feel compelled to stay?
 
I'm seeing conflicting reports on the UNLV quarterback across Xitter. Some saying UNLV fulfilled the financial obligation. Others saying he only received 3K of a 100K promise. The truth could be at one of the extremes or it could be somewhere in the middle.
 
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While SEC and Big Ten leaders mull major changes, a new Super League concept could radically alter college sports

As SEC and Big Ten leaders prepare to meet this week in Nashville for a historic summit of the industry’s two powers, there is an unreported undercurrent driving the discussion: Project Rudy.
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Spearheaded by former Disney executives-turned-investment professionals, Project Rudy is a super league-esque concept — separate and more simplified than the one made public last week — that incorporates football programs of the four power conferences in a 70-team structure. The model preserves the four power conferences, expands the postseason, overhauls scheduling, tiers revenue distribution and, most importantly, infuses as much as $9 billion of private capital cash into the system.
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I am listening with one ear to some Pepperdine (a conservative school, so it can get worse) prof/attorney Alicia Jessup talk about the unionization of college athletes, “the ‘recognition’ that they are employees” and assuming the future BS associated with her saying “some college athletes are employees, but some are not”, and this whole NIL thing looks like an absolute mess getting worse…
 
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Former Buckeye Terrelle Pryor suing the school, Big 10 and NCAA for infringement of his right to be compensated for use of his name image and likeness .

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Terrelle Pryor Files Lawsuit Against NCAA, Ohio State, Big Ten and Learfield for Usage of Name, Image and Likeness

Terrelle Pryor has filed a lawsuit against the NCAA, Ohio State, Big Ten and Learfield seeking damages for former OSU athletes for the use of their names, images and likenesses.
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“Give me $250K and I’ll stop embarrassing both of us”

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Omega said:
More former pre NIL players seeking their piece of the pie:

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Ex-Michigan stars seeking $50M in NIL lawsuit

Denard Robinson and Braylon Edwards are among the former Michigan stars who filed a $50M lawsuit vs. the NCAA and Big Ten Network for being denied profits from NIL.
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Far be it from me to defend the NCAA gratis, but the idea of reaching backwards before the change in rules took place is absolutely absurd
 
cabezadecaballo said:
Far be it from me to defend the NCAA gratis, but the idea of reaching backwards before the change in rules took place is absolutely absurd
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Well the NCAA settlement of the class action suit by athletes denied NIL apparently was without prejudice, meaning more suits can be brought and the potential for easy money is hard to resist


I am with you, going back decades is nonsensical, but the NCAA brought it on themselves. Saving any part of the game we love is going to take employer/employee bargaining agreements. Big money corrupts. Hell, I might check my old OSU yearbooks to see if my name, image, and likeness was used without permission 56 years ago.
 
Omega said:
Well the NCAA settlement of the class action suit by athletes denied NIL apparently was without prejudice, meaning more suits can be brought and the potential for easy money is hard to resist


I am with you, going back decades is nonsensical, but the NCAA brought it on themselves. Saving any part of the game we love is going to take employer/employee bargaining agreements. Big money corrupts. Hell, I might check my old OSU yearbooks to see if my name, image, and likeness was used without permission 56 years ago.
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Granted, these athletes are not working using their own tools and without direction, but I don’t know how this selective NIL$ isn’t just 1099 territory. I don’t know how you could call these athletes employees of the school. The whole thing is twisted.
 
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Players should be able to make money off of their name and likeness. I don't think colleges should be paying athletes though. If a college makes money off of it's athletic programs, it should be put back into the athletics department as a whole as well as the rest of the student body (through facilities, programs, etc...) These are institutions of higher learning, after all.

I know this is a utopian view and will never happen without people taking their rake, but I wish the system was better. This will adversely affect the common student just so rich folks can say their team wins football games and so other rich folks can get richer off them doing so.
 
underthelights said:
Players should be able to make money off of their name and likeness. I don't think colleges should be paying athletes though. If a college makes money off of it's athletic programs, it should be put back into the athletics department as a whole as well as the rest of the student body (through facilities, programs, etc...) These are institutions of higher learning, after all.

I know this is a utopian view and will never happen without people taking their rake, but I wish the system was better. This will adversely affect the common student just so rich folks can say their team wins football games and so other rich folks can get richer off them doing so.
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The way it is set up right now, colleges aren’t paying them. An outside entity is paying them.
 
I’m not sure this jumping from school to school is sustainable. IU lost I think 5 players due to lack of playing time. They just quit in the middle of the season to enter the portal. Almost their entire defense is made up of the transfers he brought with him from JMU. It’s almost like assembling a team for a pick up game.
 
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