No team ever destroys EVERY team they face. It never happens. Perhaps a few (very few) teams have done it for ONE season, but nobody does it for very long. Some of the greatest dynasties in any sport included close games. SLC's dynasty in Texas (and in the USA) is no different.
pied,ridgepride and any other Texan
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No team ever destroys EVERY team they face. It never happens. Perhaps a few (very few) teams have done it for ONE season, but nobody does it for very long. Some of the greatest dynasties in any sport included close games. SLC's dynasty in Texas (and in the USA) is no different.
There is no D1/D2 split for the regular season (5A is one division). The top four teams in each district make the playoffs. The largest two schools in the district are put in the D1 bracket. The smallest two schools go to D2. The placements are done district by district (32 total districts).
Since the placements are done district by district there are many teams in D2 that are larger than D1 schools. There are some districts where all of the schools are very large but 2 teams will still go to D2. In the 2006 state title games BOTH of the teams playing for the D1 title (SLC and Westlake) were smaller than either of the teams playing for the D2 title.
So instead of learning to play better defense, he decided nah, I'll just fake it next time....
Yeah the SLC offense was moving the ball at well. Do you recall what set up Trinity's possesion? Trinity stopped the Dragons on 4th and 10 to get the ball on downs.
Seems like the ardent defenders of the call are SLC fans and Lineweaver's relatives.
LOL You CAN'T be serious. LOL
Trinity had one of the best defenses in the state. Trinity had eight games where they held the opponents to 7 points or less. If you take out the garbage points in the 4th quarter at least half of Trinity's games were shutouts. They played FANTASTIC defense.
The problem was that SLC had the best offense in the state. Lineweaver knew that.
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Well you know that and I know that, but somehow Lineweaver msised it.
He also seemed to miss the defensive series prior where they held the best offense in the state on downs.
Short memory...
Lineweaver knew that his great defense had given up around 400 yards before that decision.
Lineweaver knew that his great defense had given up around 400 yards before that decision. Much of that was given up in the 4th quarter.
WoodyHayes
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He should call the MNW coach. The one who adjusted and shut ya out the 2nd half. Remember him?
PS: You got ate up on your home turf with a team that had to travel. I stick by my original assessment that SLC embarrassed the state of Texas. no doubt about it. But instead of my co-workers being upset, they were actually laughing.
He should call the MNW coach. The one who adjusted and shut ya out the 2nd half. Remember him?
PS: You got ate up on your home turf with a team that had to travel. I stick by my original assessment that SLC embarrassed the state of Texas. no doubt about it. But instead of my co-workers being upset, they were actually laughing.
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yallerjacket
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How old are you Woody? My guess is: Too old to be making fun of high school kids and calling them fools.
By the way, I live in Texas and was not even slightly embarassed by the SLC kids. I also know lots of other Texans who weren't embarassed by the loss. Maybe it's just you, man. Could it be that you take the interstate thing a little too seriously?
steeler 01
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Well SLC plays the best team in Texas they've played and are up at this point 31-3.
SLC destroyed Cedar Hill. Tre Newton did not play but his back-up, soph Tommy Avers, had 95 yards on 15 carries. The score was 34-3 going into the 4th quarter.
Trinity looked awesome against Lewisville in the game before. Then completely dominated them.
We sat on about the 35 yard line about half way up in the lower bowl at Texas Stadium.
I'm wondering . . . . who is the bigger embarrasment to the state of Texas? My vote goes to you and your co-workers.
At least half the teams SLC has played this year are as good or better than Cedar Hill.
steeler 01
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I didn't think this game would be tough. Cedar hill runs the ball and SLC is very good at stopping the run. If Katy and SLC play this is the same thing thats gonna happen to Katy IMO.
steeler 01
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Lewisville isn't very good. Looking good against a sorry team is very common.
RidgePride
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There have been two teams in TX play SLC to within 1 point - Katy in 2003 and Trinity in 2007. Both are pound it out running teams with play action pass.
MNW beat SLC by 8 -
What really makes SLC go is the offense and defensive line - they are very good every year. They just never get the credit because it does not show up in the statistics.
Assessment - Teams that can dominate SLC on the offense and defensive line can beat SLC and that is about it.
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RidgePride
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I know SLC has been dominant in terms of winning in TX. I am saying they never just ripped through TX DOMINATING Every team.
It is most likely that the special teams such as MNW 07 - Colerain 04 -and GPNS 03 would have beaten almost all the championship SLC teams.
But My opinion is that it would take that special team to beat any of the Southlake Carroll teams. I would take All the SLC teams of the last 5 years over any run of the mill state champ teams.
Frankly I don't see what all the scrutiny is about.
And NO! SLC did not embarrass TX. Not in the least. If a game were played between ST. X and MNW, would the loser embarrass their state?
It's high school football -
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consumerman
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Assessment - Teams that can dominate SLC on the offense and defensive line can beat SLC and that is about it.
almost uniformly, opponents of DLS say what sets them apart from other teams more than anything else is their offensive line. the offensive line is what Coach Lad coaches
coaches also say DLS defenders are able to shed blockers "at will"
the special teams are usually good for one long run a game (punt or KO return) and the defense can chip in with a long INT return
almost uniformly, opponents of DLS say what sets them apart from other teams more than anything else is their offensive line. the offensive line is what Coach Lad coaches
coaches also say DLS defenders are able to shed blockers "at will"
the special teams are usually good for one long run a game (punt or KO return) and the defense can chip in with a long INT return
steeler 01
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I think that goes for any team in the country.
RidgePride
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I agree. I am certainly appreciative of what SLC has been able to accomplish.
Those very few "special teams" like MNW 07 and GPNS 03 are the teams that can beat SLC or teams with great offense and defensive lines like Trinity and Katy.
Come on Ridge. You can do better than that. 99% of the time the team that dominates the offensive/defensive line will win.
I think SLC would beat MNW 07, Colerain 04 and GPNS 03 as many times as they would lose to those teams. The remarkable thing is that SLC has been able to win back to back to back to back to back to back. None of those teams ever did that. Nobody has. Not with the gauntlett state tournament that Texas has.
RidgePride
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IMO SLC to the nation is like the New England Patriots. The Patriots were not the best every year (but very close) and some years they are the best.
Every so often a splash in the pan super team can beat them.
What makes both teams special is the ability to stay very near the top every year.
and I would have won some $$$.
I would vote that way as well.
Not certain how this is relevant, but Lewisville is not a good team at all. Their defense was good, but their O sucked.
Like I said initially I expected SLC to win. I did not expect that. I went to follow online and the game was already 21-3. I've got a full bill this weekend, but may see if I can get out to TS.
"It is most likely that the special teams such as MNW 07 - Colerain 04 -and GPNS 03 would have beaten almost all the championship SLC teams."
Overall, MNW has not proven to be freakishly special within Florida. They have managed to avoid playing any of the other elite teams within the state each of the last two years. They are loaded with talent, sure. But there are a lot of teams within the state that would prove to be far more of a challenge than the weak Dade teams they have played. For crying out loud, their THIRD round playoff opponent this week will be South Dade. A very young Lakeland team just ousted from the 5A playoffs beat SD 30-0. Yet, MNW will win 42-0 and everybody will presume they are sooo much better than the rest of Florida.
Overall, MNW has not proven to be freakishly special within Florida. They have managed to avoid playing any of the other elite teams within the state each of the last two years. They are loaded with talent, sure. But there are a lot of teams within the state that would prove to be far more of a challenge than the weak Dade teams they have played. For crying out loud, their THIRD round playoff opponent this week will be South Dade. A very young Lakeland team just ousted from the 5A playoffs beat SD 30-0. Yet, MNW will win 42-0 and everybody will presume they are sooo much better than the rest of Florida.
A better question as it pertains to my point is: Of the Florida teams MNW has beaten the last two years, which of them are considered elite teams? Include the resume of said teams.
I can supply a partial list of elite teams they have NOT played:
Lakeland
St. Thomas Aquinas
Armwood
Miami BTW
Tampa Plant (2006)
Osceola (2007)
I can supply a partial list of elite teams they have NOT played:
Lakeland
St. Thomas Aquinas
Armwood
Miami BTW
Tampa Plant (2006)
Osceola (2007)