#PACtion™ 2024

Rich Kotite said:
What is it with these sports league commissioners? They all are second division stiffs.

Ghostin' Gary: no one hears from him or even knows where he is. Where's Gary? @Bluestreakoffice at least knows where his Federal League Commissioner is or could find him.

Roger Goodell: Dork. This guiiii is so dumb he'd take a brilliant business like BellStores and turn them into Speedway in no time.

Adam Silver: Clown. His league sucks. I'm all for Ice Cube and The Big 3. Caitlyn Clark should have joined the Big 3 but, no, she's surrounded by corporate toadies selling the WNBA/NBA propaganda.

Rob Manfred: Nerd. His league sucks, too. Rob Manfred and MLB is equivalent to the men's room at the Sunoco, exit 45, off I-71. The worstest of the worst. So bad you wanna run out of there.

Gary Bettman: Jobroni. He should investigate the absentee ownership of the Columbus Bleu Coats.
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I would think they have had to have had a meeting or three on what they are going to do as a league....do you know what school and administration is the league driver for things like this?
 
bob99 said:
I think I saw you play! You ran the ball and FirestoneFan was on D! Good times.
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Somebody already used this line....lol

Sometimes the way you think truly terrifies me.
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7Diamond said:
Interesting note here, I was on those Manchester Suburban Youth League pee-wee teams back in the day. I graduated from Manchester in 1979, so I would have played the varsity level of pee-wee in 1974. Manchester was SYL champs at least 4 years in a row back then. I expect we may have possibly lined up against each other! Our coaches were the best - guys that played for Swede Olsson and carried on his traditions.
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Swede Olsson
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Did Swede lovingly season the Sunday Swedish meatballs?

Did he blare a Gjallarhorn at the start and end of each practice?
 
Rich Kotite said:
Why did Lake grow as a district enough to compete in the Fed but yet Field is still in D4? Serious question.
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My idea of this has to be location....North Canton to the south...Akron to the north...open farm country for easier community development...10 miles to something in either direction without influence of Kent State...I was a freshman when May 4th happened...took awhile for Kent to recover and Field is not that far from Kent...Lake was actually at its largest with student population in the early to mid 80's
 
Bluestreakoffice said:
My idea of this has to be location....North Canton to the south...Akron to the north...open farm country for easier community development...10 miles to something in either direction without influence of Kent State...I was a freshman when May 4th happened...took awhile for Kent to recover and Field is not that far from Kent...Lake was actually at its largest with student population in the early to mid 80's
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But Stow is right next to Kent and it's grown like a weed into one of the biggest schools in the 330 region.

Could Field have slower growth because, well, it's closer to other "not hot" real estate areas besides Kent? (Ellet, Springfield, east Akron)?
 
Rich Kotite said:
Who's tuffer? And who would be a better Commissioner for #PACtion™ replacing Ghostin' Gary Woods?*

*Gary is ghostin' the Principals Athletic Conference by disappearing. Where's Gary?

Anyways who's tuffer and a better PAC Commissioner candidate?

Art Elk:

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Or....

Tim Misny:

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I have no clue who Art Elk is. But this Yinzer knows what Misny does!

In 2017 when I went to visit my nephew at JCU, and I saw all these f'n billboards. I saw my nephew and a few of his teammates and I was asked about my drive, and I brought up the billboards. The Cleveland natives went crazy and explained it to me. Now fast forward 5 or 6 years (the year Josh McDaniel took over the Raiders), and my nephew is at his first JCU football alumni golf outing. McDaniel's and the other NFL guys are there, but who did my nephew wait in line to get a pic with to send to me? Minsy! That's tuffness right there.
 
Rich Kotite said:
But Stow is right next to Kent and it's grown like a weed into one of the biggest schools in the 330 region.

Could Field have slower growth because, well, it's closer to other "not hot" real estate areas besides Kent? (Ellet, Springfield, east Akron)?
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Stow was already larger then Lake at that time...believe its closeness to Cuy Falls and Akron in the 60's made it a great suburban area..my parents actually moved from Stow to Uniontown...Ellet was a good neighborhood when the rust belt had not started...Springfield did have a bad area called Sawyerwood that predicated a lot of its issues...also remember Lake was a dry area due the Amish influence...the Amish culture did help...it was way more pronounced then it is now...you had buggys everywhere back in the 70's along with farms that are now gone and developed into allotments...Kent State was an influence..Akron U's enrollment took off...Kent State degree did come with a negative influence
 
Raylan_Givens said:
Unless McKinley turns back into the McKinley of old, the only thing the Fed "stays up" on is cake eating . . .
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First, #PACtion has been a welcome relief today from the ridonkulus excel file I had to fill out for a vendor.

Second, there's a lot to unpack in that one single Raylan sentence.

In no particular order, IMO:

1. The Fed actually has opportunities to improve their football product and that doesn't even mean the tired, stupid and boring "add Massillon to the Fed argument" that got beaten more than a schnitzel.

2. They could add an 8th "football only" school but that would mean.....tuffer competition. School admins aren't champions of creative thinking, so that's not gonna happen. But I believe it could if they wanted it.

3. @Bluestreakoffice's Lake Blue Streaks were at 404 boys in the last OHSAA enrollment report. The cut off for D-III is 389 boys. At some point I think this is a bridge that Lake and Fed are gonna have to cross.

4. Bluntly, I don't see McK ever coming back to the McK of days past. Respect their tradition, I own Bowersox's book about it. But I don't see it coming back for them. The city is too big of a mess. Part of it is the industrial decline forced by the Wall Street/DC ruling class upon factory towns like Canton and the other part is societal decline.

I think Canton leadership saw this years ago and got in the Fed to maintain a winnable football schedule. The other sports at McK, outside of basketball, have been a disaster in the Fed. That move was made for football. They saw that it was going to be very hard to play an independent schedule with an empty stadium (except for the Massillon game) and not much money to offer opponents to come to Canton. In addition to the program losing talent, discipline, coaching ability, fan support, you name it.

The school admin at Canton CS don't have the moxie of years past, either. They allow the Hall of Foam Vacation Land to walk all over them and treat the school district like a second class citizen. I'd love to see Canton grow a pair and build their own stadium and get out of the HOF stadium except if they want to play Massillon there.

HOT TAKES.
 
Raylan_Givens said:
Unless McKinley turns back into the McKinley of old, the only thing the Fed "stays up" on is cake eating . . .
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McKinley will not turn back into old...unless Canton finds away to turn around...which I do not see...Lake is going to have be proactive sometime...we are down to 400 boys...30 from D 3...but all the schools in the league are close...cost and travel is at the lowest Lake will ever have...used to be you generated a lot of revenue but people do not come to events like they used to...one of the requirements for Lake to get in the Fed was had to build a stadium...now the visitor side is rarely packed...Lake unfortunately doesn't get to eat a lot of cake...lol
 
Rich Kotite said:
First, #PACtion has been a welcome relief today from the ridonkulus excel file I had to fill out for a vendor.

Second, there's a lot to unpack in that one single Raylan sentence.

In no particular order, IMO:

1. The Fed actually has opportunities to improve their football product and that doesn't even mean the tired, stupid and boring "add Massillon to the Fed argument" that got beaten more than a schnitzel.

2. They could add an 8th "football only" school but that would mean.....tuffer competition. School admins aren't champions of creative thinking, so that's not gonna happen. But I believe it could if they wanted it.

3. @Bluestreakoffice's Lake Blue Streaks were at 404 boys in the last OHSAA enrollment report. The cut off for D-III is 389 boys. At some point I think this is a bridge that Lake and Fed are gonna have to cross.

4. Bluntly, I don't see McK ever coming back to the McK of days past. Respect their tradition, I own Bowersox's book about it. But I don't see it coming back for them. The city is too big of a mess. Part of it is the industrial decline forced by the Wall Street/DC ruling class upon factory towns like Canton and the other part is societal decline.

I think Canton leadership saw this years ago and got in the Fed to maintain a winnable football schedule. The other sports at McK, outside of basketball, have been a disaster in the Fed. That move was made for football. They saw that it was going to be very hard to play an independent schedule with an empty stadium (except for the Massillon game) and not much money to offer opponents to come to Canton. In addition to the program losing talent, discipline, coaching ability, fan support, you name it.

The school admin at Canton CS don't have the moxie of years past, either. They allow the Hall of Foam Vacation Land to walk all over them and treat the school district like a second class citizen. I'd love to see Canton grow a pair and build their own stadium and get out of the HOF stadium except if they want to play Massillon there.

HOT TAKES.
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This is the truth....the mistake and I think it is a mistake, was inviting McKinley into the league...the last two times Lake has played at McKinley we were the second largest crowd they had for a football game...Massillon played them there those years...I have went to Lake at McKinley basketball games where the Lake crowd was larger....
 
Mikefln said:
I have no clue who Art Elk is. But this Yinzer knows what Misny does!

In 2017 when I went to visit my nephew at JCU, and I saw all these f'n billboards. I saw my nephew and a few of his teammates and I was asked about my drive, and I brought up the billboards. The Cleveland natives went crazy and explained it to me. Now fast forward 5 or 6 years (the year Josh McDaniel took over the Raiders), and my nephew is at his first JCU football alumni golf outing. McDaniel's and the other NFL guys are there, but who did my nephew wait in line to get a pic with to send to me? Minsy! That's tuffness right there.
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Now this is a true Northeast Ohio story..lol....rates right up there with Mr. Cost Plus at Huebner Chevrolet in Carrollton!!!

 
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Playoffs??? said:
Sorry I'm late to the party today, co-workers need more babysitting than usual, don't they know I have things to do on here!! For anyone interested in voting for a sleeper, anyone remember these commercials on late night Massillon cable. This guy is a gem!!

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Oh Lord. This guy. He was my late night entertainment when I worked midnights right after my college days. "My name is Marc, and you can count on it"
 
Raylan_Givens said:
For all the #PACtion2024™ neighbors wearing orange & black that monitor this thread - I corrected the above post.

Figure since no one wants to let y'all claim a pre-playoff championship no one should be allowed to. Right?
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Well actually it was won on the field, since you asked. Yes pre-playoff but not a " paper championship "...
 
And if you're interested you can read the Akron Beacon Journal article on the Class B state championship game vs Lorain St. Mary, which was played in Lorain in front of 4,000 fans. Almost as many as now playoff era title games draw!
 
wildcat71 said:
Well actually it was won on the field, since you asked. Yes pre-playoff but not a " paper championship "...
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10-0 is a fantastic season and should be lauded. That said, the Akron Beacon Journal declaring an Akron team as a champ is a decidedly “neighborly” thing to do.

Unfortunately the AP only awarded 1 title until 1965.
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Raylan_Givens said:
10-0 is a fantastic season and should be lauded. That said, the Akron Beacon Journal declaring an Akron team as a champ is a decidedly “neighborly” thing to do.

Unfortunately the AP only awarded 1 title until 1965.
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Guess you miss the point or don't want to admit this was a class B championship won " on the field". Being a Beacon Journal article and " neighborly " thing to do had nothing to do with actually winning a championship " on the field" . So you'll never be convinced so I'll just leave it at that.
 
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