Northwest Ohio Realignment

Ericles

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I agree their fear is not unfounded but big difference as you know is they are public so tax dollars will keep coming in. I believe that they do not have a class in double digits in elementary school and heard they had 3 kids sign up for kindergarten for this year and after two of parents saw how small the class was they enrolled elsewhere. So IMO their days as a school is numbered regardless if they have football or not but not having football will most like make that happen sooner.
When the last enrollment count was done back in October, there were only 152 students in the entire district K-12. 6 classes had 10 or fewer students and 5 of those were in the elementary (K-5). The biggest class in the district at the time was the 8th grade (soon to be freshmen) with 19 kids.

Vanlue shares a treasurer with a neighboring district and I was told that if they never brought in another cent in revenue from that day forward (roughly mid-April), they would be able to survive only roughly another two years before some really tough decisions would have to be made.
 

StateChampion2012

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Vanlue-Carey Schools in T-minus 5 years

I still think if you combine Arcadia and Vanlue and build a K-12 school along 224, it'll be a viable district with decent open enrollment opportunity and give the portion south of Vanlue to Riverdale. I dont know how much territory Vanlue has in Wyandot County, but if they do then that could go to Carey

What could this new district be called?

Hancock Eastern
East Hancock
Vancadia
 

jafo

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I still think if you combine Arcadia and Vanlue and build a K-12 school along 224, it'll be a viable district with decent open enrollment opportunity and give the portion south of Vanlue to Riverdale. I dont know how much territory Vanlue has in Wyandot County, but if they do then that could go to Carey

What could this new district be called?

Hancock Eastern
East Hancock
Vancadia
Eastern Woods
 

*67

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Ohio needs to consolidate some of these smaller districts across the state. I do know it's a local decision buy at some point it's time IMO
Good luck convincing politicians to stick their necks out for something that will be horribly unpopular with their consituents.
 

CC Track Fan

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Ohio needs to consolidate some of these smaller districts across the state. I do know it's a local decision buy at some point it's time IMO

You are correct the fact that the state spent lots money to build Ottoville and Ft. Jennings schools so close together tells me they are not going to do that. If there was ever two districts that should have combine it is those two.
 

ToledoGuy

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I always thought Ohio needs to break up some of the larger school districts.
It would be interesting to see what breaking up districts like CMSD/TPS/CPS/CCS would do for those districts. It always seems to me like you can't effectively build any sort of teaching/education strategy with districts that oversee areas, populations, etc. that are so different.
 

dhsdog06

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Full consolation isn't needed. As long as a school is academically serving it's students needs and offering a good curriculum, there's no reason to force anything. If they want to share certain resources, like a treasurer or even up to a superintendent with a border district to save money, that's on them. But let's not make rash decisions based on sports here.

What IS needed, I've said a few times, are co-ops. Putnan County, for example, could probably put together some good football teams if Continental/Kalida, Ottoville/FJ, Miller City/Leipsic, and Pandora/Cory-Rawson put together combined teams. Let the individual schools, which all perform at at acceptable to great level, keep their identity and even play most sports under their own banner. But give more kids an opportunity to play by coming together.
 

dappling

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Ohio needs to consolidate some of these smaller districts across the state. I do know it's a local decision but at some point it's time IMO
lol..ya'think? Ohio wastes A LOT of money with multiple districts in a small area. Lots of money flies out the window in administrative costs that doesn't help the kids.

Here is a thought..what if each county in Ohio was a school district?
 

Rangerfan

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lol..ya'think? Ohio wastes A LOT of money with multiple districts in a small area. Lots of money flies out the window in administrative costs that doesn't help the kids.

Here is a thought..what if each county in Ohio was a school district?
Heavens, no! You are going to bus kids 30 miles to school all over the state?
 

dhsdog06

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Ok, if the idea is one big DISTRICT with shared administrators but multiple schools, I agree. Save money where you can.
 

eastisbest

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lol..ya'think? Ohio wastes A LOT of money with multiple districts in a small area. Lots of money flies out the window in administrative costs that doesn't help the kids.

Here is a thought..what if each county in Ohio was a school district?

Ohio? I seem to recall our schools are financed by local taxes. Local decision. You socialists lol (every post has to include that accusation, it's a new Yappi rule) intent on inflating your olentangy real estate investments can take a flying leap. The less state involvement, the better. Look how bloated ODE has become and what services do they actually provide? You think the 88 agencies you just created (because community admin is NEVER going away) is going to be MORE efficient?
 

BirdDog10

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Good luck convincing politicians to stick their necks out for something that will be horribly unpopular with their consituents.
Pushing for policies that are popular with their constituents is literally the only real purpose of politicians......
 

slider632

New member
Here is a thought..what if each county in Ohio was a school district?
That would be a really bad idea. You're from Lucas Co. I believe (Maumee fan), Here are the school districts in Lucas Co: Anthony Wayne, Evergreen, Maumee, Oregon, Otsego, Ottawa Hills, Springfield, Swanton, Sylvania, Toledo Public and Washington Local. Could you imagine having high income schools (Ottawa Hills, Sylvania NV and SV) share revenue / staffing with the TPS Schools? The residents who pay the higher property / school taxes would flip out. Also running schools the size of Whitmer or Start vs Maumee, Ottawa Hills or any other smaller schools is completely different in staffing and equipment means. Same with the needs of the kids in inner city schools versus those in the rural areas.
 

ToledoGuy

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That would be a really bad idea. You're from Lucas Co. I believe (Maumee fan), Here are the school districts in Lucas Co: Anthony Wayne, Evergreen, Maumee, Oregon, Otsego, Ottawa Hills, Springfield, Swanton, Sylvania, Toledo Public and Washington Local. Could you imagine having high income schools (Ottawa Hills, Sylvania NV and SV) share revenue / staffing with the TPS Schools? The residents who pay the higher property / school taxes would flip out. Also running schools the size of Whitmer or Start vs Maumee, Ottawa Hills or any other smaller schools is completely different in staffing and equipment means. Same with the needs of the kids in inner city schools versus those in the rural areas.
I guess if you did do a county district, you could more effectively share that revenue, taxes would be more static, and you would be able to manage class sizes/school sizes so everything ends up equal...but yeah, I think we are WAY too far down the rabbit hole to switch the entire style of administration for K-12 Education in the State at this point.
 

dhsdog06

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Slider632

Just for clarification Swanson and evergreen are Fulton county and otsego is wood county

But all 3 get some students from Lucas County.

Another example of why county wide districts probably don't work. What to do with multi county districts? Otsego actually is in Wood, Lucas, AND Henry, with the bulk in Wood. Would they end up shrinking? 3 different administrations trying to run one school? County lines are dumb ways to decide things.

I'd have no problem if 2 neighboring districts pooled resources, but leave arbitrary county lines out of it.
 

Maple_City_Fan

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But all 3 get some students from Lucas County.

Another example of why county wide districts probably don't work. What to do with multi county districts? Otsego actually is in Wood, Lucas, AND Henry, with the bulk in Wood. Would they end up shrinking? 3 different administrations trying to run one school? County lines are dumb ways to decide things.

I'd have no problem if 2 neighboring districts pooled resources, but leave arbitrary county lines out of it.
I thought anything across the river was Anthony Wayne SD. I learn something new.
 

CC Track Fan

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Ohio? I seem to recall our schools are financed by local taxes. Local decision. You socialists lol (every post has to include that accusation, it's a new Yappi rule) intent on inflating your olentangy real estate investments can take a flying leap. The less state involvement, the better. Look how bloated ODE has become and what services do they actually provide? You think the 88 agencies you just created (because community admin is NEVER going away) is going to be MORE efficient?
Not to disagree with all of your points but very large potion of schools are funded is from the state and even bigger portion of state dollars are used to build new school buildings. I am fine with the state getting completely out of school funding (no chance that happening) but since they are they should also have some say in how the money is spent.
 

eastisbest

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Not to disagree with all of your points but very large potion of schools are funded is from the state and even bigger portion of state dollars are used to build new school buildings. I am fine with the state getting completely out of school funding (no chance that happening) but since they are they should also have some say in how the money is spent.

and where did the state get the money that they send back to the local school districts (after taking massive overhead)? I covered that. But more to the point, we agree. Less state the better.
 

ToledoGuy

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Best I could do was a screenshot, but yeah. Southwest Providence Township is Otsego territory. Probably not many kids, but...
AW's random little Wood County nub always confuses me lol.

If we're talking about weird district boundaries, I still love that there are people who literally walk out their front door in the morning and stare directly across the street and see Ottawa Hills HS...then they get in their car and drive to class at Whitmer HS.
 

Skipper10

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That would be a really bad idea. You're from Lucas Co. I believe (Maumee fan), Here are the school districts in Lucas Co: Anthony Wayne, Evergreen, Maumee, Oregon, Otsego, Ottawa Hills, Springfield, Swanton, Sylvania, Toledo Public and Washington Local. Could you imagine having high income schools (Ottawa Hills, Sylvania NV and SV) share revenue / staffing with the TPS Schools? The residents who pay the higher property / school taxes would flip out. Also running schools the size of Whitmer or Start vs Maumee, Ottawa Hills or any other smaller schools is completely different in staffing and equipment means. Same with the needs of the kids in inner city schools versus those in the rural areas.
OR...you could split the counties in territories depending how they are geographically set up (only including public schools) like North Carolina does? Eastern Lucas HS, Western Lucas HS, Northern Mercer HS, Southern Mercer HS (could you imaging the powerhouse if that were to happen?).
 

eastisbest

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OR...you could split the counties in territories depending how they are geographically set up (only including public schools) like North Carolina does? Eastern Lucas HS, Western Lucas HS, Northern Mercer HS, Southern Mercer HS (could you imaging the powerhouse if that were to happen?).

The rest of the state would be doing that as well. An E. Cuyahoga with a combined Mentor-Kirtland and of course budding national power MAC would be tough to over powerhouse.
 
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