Northwest Ohio Realignment

ShoelessJoe

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The farther you get the education process away from the local communities, the worse it will be. Not saying there isn't room for some consolidation of schools and services, but there is a reason most small schools academically out perform larger schools. Parent and local involvement is an important part of a good school district.
 

smurfyeah19

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The farther you get the education process away from the local communities, the worse it will be. Not saying there isn't room for some consolidation of schools and services, but there is a reason most small schools academically out perform larger schools. Parent and local involvement is an important part of a good school district.
I don't think that would change at all to be honest. But I agree on the consolidation part, Ohio needs to draw a line in the sand with minimum enrollments. The infrastructure costs are absurd to fund these tiny schools and the offerings when it comes to extracurriculars is dwarfed by those in the suburbs. In my opinion no school should be smaller than D5 in this state. Growing up they could've easily combined us with Lakota or Woodmore
 

Dro24

New member
Heavens, no! You are going to bus kids 30 miles to school all over the state?
Living in North Carolina now and this is ALL we have in any rural area. It's so weird to see. There are maybe 2-3 schools per county out here and they're all East (county), West (county), etc.
 

Dro24

New member
OR...you could split the counties in territories depending how they are geographically set up (only including public schools) like North Carolina does? Eastern Lucas HS, Western Lucas HS, Northern Mercer HS, Southern Mercer HS (could you imaging the powerhouse if that were to happen?).
I hate the way that's done tbh. I'm in eastern NC now and there's no identity with any of these districts. Just North, South, East, and West for every county out here.
 

2112

New member
As per the Sandusky Register, New London is going to 8-man ball in 2021. This is crummy news for the NL community for sure.

Look for Willard to fall all over themselves to fill the gap NL leaves behind in the Firelands Conference.

Inb4 Strack.
 

chs1971

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As per the Sandusky Register, New London is going to 8-man ball in 2021. This is crummy news for the NL community for sure.

Look for Willard to fall all over themselves to fill the gap NL leaves behind in the Firelands Conference.

Inb4 Strack.
New London did not leave the conference and they plan to return to 11-man football next year.
 

smurfyeah19

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All those thinking there is going to be some massive reduction in overall costs with consolidation, make yourself useful and look up the salary for the Principal of let's say, Vanlue.

Public Salaries
It's noticeable how low those salaries are though for teachers. If you look, it's astonishing how high salaries are at some other schools like Eastwood. They many teachers pulling down $70K+ with quite a few even above $80K. I'm certainly not against paying teachers, but the downside to completely unionized employees are that small schools with many high seniority teachers are very costly.

That's why things like vouchers are something the state wants to allow, it's one way to offset high teacher salaries by giving that funding to a private school who can eat some of that salary.
 

green_genes

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That would be due to a higher percentage of kids in the school being born into a married 2 parent household. Which of course those type of parents are more involved in the school system.

Or the number of really smart kids who are potential "curve wreckers" is relatively small...
 

chs1971

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That would be due to a higher percentage of kids in the school being born into a married 2 parent household. Which of course those type of parents are more involved in the school system.
Parents being more involved in the school system does not make their children more successful.

Parents being more involved with their children makes their children more successful.
 

eastisbest

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Parents being more involved in the school system does not make their children more successful.

Parents being more involved with their children makes their children more successful.
I do understand that some teachers, coaches, admins wish parents didn't exist and there were no eyes on their work. So I get yur persepctive here. But disagree. Parents involved in the system do "make" their children more successful. And that is part of being involved with their children These are not mutually exclusive.

A parent that becomes involved with the system; takes time to work with their kids' teachers, counselors, .... learns sooner about any difficulties their kid might be having and can work together on corrective action. They learn, which teachers if any are the hand out the worksheet, read a book, auto-pass to keep the kids/parents quiet type. That parent is more aware what programs and extra-curriculars are available. Even the kid knwing there are eyes on, will put in more effort, less clowning. Parent involvement keeps the system from slacking. A parent being more involved in the school system is doing someting that makes their kids more successful.
 

chs1971

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I do understand that some teachers, coaches, admins wish parents didn't exist and there were no eyes on their work. So I get yur persepctive here. But disagree. Parents involved in the system do "make" their children more successful. And that is part of being involved with their children These are not mutually exclusive.

A parent that becomes involved with the system; takes time to work with their kids' teachers, counselors, .... learns sooner about any difficulties their kid might be having and can work together on corrective action. They learn, which teachers if any are the hand out the worksheet, read a book, auto-pass to keep the kids/parents quiet type. That parent is more aware what programs and extra-curriculars are available. Even the kid knwing there are eyes on, will put in more effort, less clowning. Parent involvement keeps the system from slacking. A parent being more involved in the school system is doing someting that makes their kids more successful.
Helicopter parents are not a good thing.
 

ayCC!

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Helicopter parents are not a good thing.
Correct, but parents who at least give a damn about their child’s future and are willing to be involved in order to help the kid get to where they want to is probably the type of people East is referring to. Too many parents nowadays either sadly don’t have time because of needing to put food on the table, or simply are indifferent about what happens to their children.
 

chs1971

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Correct, but parents who at least give a damn about their child’s future and are willing to be involved in order to help the kid get to where they want to is probably the type of people East is referring to. Too many parents nowadays either sadly don’t have time because of needing to put food on the table, or simply are indifferent about what happens to their children.
Which is what I said, not what east said.
 

eastisbest

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Parents involved in their child's education are being responsible citizens. Parents being involved in the school system are a-holes.

They're responsible citizens, communist. :D Yeah I get there's a segment of the public education system that would prefer the public hand over the money blindly. That nevers goes well once those getting the free money realize no one is watching.
 

CC Track Fan

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Was told Vanlue has 11 players and they are playing 11 man. Clearly they lack any kind of common sense there.
What is wrong will the adults at that school. No way is that safe and no way they will make it to week 3 let alone full season. Imagine the pressure on the kids to play when hurt or concussed. If kids tweak an ankle can't even take a play off to get is wrapped.
 

jafo

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What is wrong will the adults at that school. No way is that safe and no way they will make it to week 3 let alone full season. Imagine the pressure on the kids to play when hurt or concussed. If kids tweak an ankle can't even take a play off to get is wrapped.
Just going on the people that I know from Vanlue this is not surprising.
 

Cedar_Point

Active member
There’s no way Vanlue plays a single game. All schools should look for replacement games and say the contract with Vanlue is voided
 
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