MAC 2024-25

MAC scores 1/3:
Marion Local 56 Versailles 51
Spencerville 88 Minster 77 OT
Shawnee 53 Coldwater 51
Lincolnview 52 Fort Recovery 46
New Bremen 48 New Knoxville 37
DSJ 78 Parkway 46
 
Many here know way more about MAC history than I do but does he have a chance to be considered the best MAC player of all time before his career is over.

Who is considered among the best to ever play in the MAC?
Depends on what someone considers the best. New Knoxville had Eschmeyer who played in the NBA. St. Henry had Bobby Hoying who could handle the ball, shoot, rebound, block shots, same with Nate Bruns at Marion Local. Personally, I would prefer players like Bruns, Hoying that can do basically everything on a bball court. Of course, those type of players are very rare as is Elwer, but Elwer is not the same type of player as those two.
 
MAC scores 1/4:
St. Henry 63 Anna 60
New Knoxville 57 Houston 39
Versailles 57 Cin. College Prep 35
Coldwater 62 Elida 55
DSJ 57 Shawnee 54
Marion Local 64 Waynsefield Goshen 33
Russia 58 New Bremen 31
Ottoville 54 Minster 50
Botkins 62 Fort Recovery 49
Adams Central 57 Parkway 47
 
Depends on what someone considers the best. New Knoxville had Eschmeyer who played in the NBA. St. Henry had Bobby Hoying who could handle the ball, shoot, rebound, block shots, same with Nate Bruns at Marion Local. Personally, I would prefer players like Bruns, Hoying that can do basically everything on a bball court. Of course, those type of players are very rare as is Elwer, but Elwer is not the same type of player as those two.
How about a step further.... what was the best MAC team ever? There's been a bunch that I can remember and plenty more that I don't. For me it has to be 2008 New Knoxville. They obliterated everyone. They were talented, disciplined and deep. I think they had 5 guys average double figures that year. Not to mention their point man, whose name I can't remember, was an absolute menace.
 
How about a step further.... what was the best MAC team ever? There's been a bunch that I can remember and plenty more that I don't. For me it has to be 2008 New Knoxville. They obliterated everyone. They were talented, disciplined and deep. I think they had 5 guys average double figures that year. Not to mention their point man, whose name I can't remember, was an absolute menace.
1990-1991 St Henry team is IMO the best. 3 D1 guys and two that played in the NFL (Hoying and Scott Brunswick for a shot with the Cowboys). I’ve said that before but they are the gold standard I believe for MAC teams. They also obliterated everyone and only lost two games in two years (both years lost to Van Wert in classic games).
 
Versailles at Minster this Friday. Both teams have 1 league loss, close to an elimination game, be difficult to win the league with 2 league losses. Last time a team (teams) won the league with 2 losses I believe was in 2010.
 
Many here know way more about MAC history than I do but does he have a chance to be considered the best MAC player of all time before his career is over.

Who is considered among the best to ever play in the MAC?
Ahrens brothers can't be overlooked. Justin holds all-time record in scoring in the MAC. Kyle would have broken it easily if not for missing practically his entire Jr. season. Both played high level D1 hoops.
 
Ahrens brothers can't be overlooked. Justin holds all-time record in scoring in the MAC. Kyle would have broken it easily if not for missing practically his entire Jr. season. Both played high level D1 hoops.
It would be difficult to argue with Kyle Ahrens or Evan Eschmeyer as the best basketball players coming out of the MAC. I did not live in the area when Bobby Hoying played nor do I know if he was as highly recruited in basketball, like he was for football. Both Ahrens and Eschmeyer were recruited by high level college basketball teams. I don't believe Elwer is getting recruited by the same high level college teams that these two did.
 
It would be difficult to argue with Kyle Ahrens or Evan Eschmeyer as the best basketball players coming out of the MAC. I did not live in the area when Bobby Hoying played nor do I know if he was as highly recruited in basketball, like he was for football. Both Ahrens and Eschmeyer were recruited by high level college basketball teams. I don't believe Elwer is getting recruited by the same high level college teams that these two did.
I am not sure using what colleges are recruiting a player is big factor to determine who is the best HS player. It makes sense to consider it but far from top factor.
 
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I am not sure using what colleges are recruiting a player is big factor to determine who is the best HS player. It makes sense to consider it but far from top factor.
If we are talking about the best player to ever come out of the MAC, what factors should be used? All time leading MAC scorer? The DSJ scoring record, Elwer just broke, was a big deal, Alan K was a highly recruited player in high school. We both more than likely would agree, there are really good high school players but not necessarily good college players, and vice versa. I guess I am saying if you are not a good enough high school player to get recruited by the major college basketball teams, how can that player be deemed the best ever in the MAC?
 
Marion Local vs Botkins score was 25 - 22 at half. 2nd half Flyers dominated. Kale Ahrens a 6'3" fwd. did a good job guarding Doseck of Botkins held him to 3 pts. Flyers play Parkway this Friday than at DSJ next Friday.
 
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It would be difficult to argue with Kyle Ahrens or Evan Eschmeyer as the best basketball players coming out of the MAC. I did not live in the area when Bobby Hoying played nor do I know if he was as highly recruited in basketball, like he was for football. Both Ahrens and Eschmeyer were recruited by high level college basketball teams. I don't believe Elwer is getting recruited by the same high level college teams that these two did.
2015 has to be the best class of kids to come through the MAC. Kyle Ahrens, Ryan Mikesell, Luke Knapke all D1
 
Cavs gotta rebound. I felt that they can play better. We will see next game.
CW had a late start to bball due to football. The Cavs play a tough non-league schedule.
My top 5 teams in the MAC to begin the new year:
1. DSJ
2. ML
3. Versailles
4. Coldwater
5. Minster
 
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