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Nick Chubb: I'd like to finish here, Cleveland just means a lot to me
Browns running back Nick Chubb has now played seven games this season since returning from the second devastating knee injury of his career.

It going to be in Brook Park … then are now just haggling over the details … Bibb is just trying to save face and maybe get concession or something for them leaving the city.I bet London, Austin, San Antonio, Portland....would be more than happy to build a stadium.
They should pay him just so the fans have some semblance of normalcy in a player that people can feel good about rooting for.![]()
Nick Chubb: I'd like to finish here, Cleveland just means a lot to me
Browns running back Nick Chubb has now played seven games this season since returning from the second devastating knee injury of his career.www.nbcsports.com
I agree. This franchise has way too many holes to ensure a stable environment for a franchise QB anytime in the next 5 years. That amazing o-line and running game has aged out and there are no pieces in place to bring it back up to snuff (maybe Jones). The WR room is a group of cast offs that, surprise, aren't that great in Cleveland either. Jeudy has come on a bit as of late in the #1 role, but still struggles with drops. The best offensive player is a Njoku at TE. Somehow this defense went from being historically good right back to being bad in one offseason. Ward can't stay on the field and JOK is on IR with a neck injury. I feel like he could be done for his career. I like Myles Garrett, but outside of flashy pass rush plays, he disappears at times. He is especially bad in the run game and his hustle on plays away from him is enough to make me turn off my TV at times. Still, he likely holds a ton of value. Really, he's the only player with any real value on this team. The Browns might as well trade him for the opportunity to have more foundational pieces to build on for the future.Daniel Jones sucks no matter where he was taken. It's a wasted pick no matter where it happened. We don't need to take a QB just to take a QB. Wasting resources on QBs, whether draft picks or the Watson debacle, has held this franchise back as much as anything else. Chasing the next Payton Manning when it's been proven you can win with Trent Dilfer.
Instead of Brandon Weedon we could've had a foundational piece. Instead of Johnny Manzeil we could've had a foundational piece. Instead of Brady Quinn we could've had a foundational piece. And of course the disaster of robbing the team of 3 first round foundational pieces along with the salary cap hell of the Watson deal.
Why negate the advantage of this terrible season? Take the best player available at 5 or 6 whether it's o line or wherever and do the same thing in the 2nd round and build from there. Stop chasing the white whale of HOF QB.
I’m getting tired of people saying Chubb will never be the same, there’s something drastically wrong, blah blah blah.They should pay him just so the fans have some semblance of normalcy in a player that people can feel good about rooting for.
Nowhere in my comment does it say he won't get back to performing on a high level.I’m getting tired of people saying Chubb will never be the same, there’s something drastically wrong, blah blah blah.
The guy is still playing his way back from a devastating injury.
Next year will be the true test for him.
No where in my comment does it say he won't get back to performing on a high level.
If anyone can return from that devasting injury to be a top 10 back in the league again, it's a guy like Chubb who has an outstanding work ethic.
My point was that teams, at large, are not paying backs big money. The idea of a team betting on a back returning from a devastating knee injury like that would seem crazy. But no matter what, they should pay Chubb because not only was/is he a great back, but he's a great teammate and someone who is easy to root for as a stand up human being and teammate. It's almost impossible to hate on Nick Chubb. With the amount of dislikable characters the Browns have brought in the last few years, paying Chubb for that sole purpose would be worth it.
You shut your dirty wh--e mouth suggesting something so dastardly.Chubb will be 30 next year heading into his 8 season. He made $6.275 mil this year. At best Chubb might be able to find someone willing to pay him similar to Ten Pollard or Min Jones who each make around $7 mil a year. Reality is, that is unlikely for. 30 year old with 2 serious knee injuries and the amount of wear & tear Chubb has endured. I would guess a 1 year $4 mil deal is more likely.
Cleveland’s oline is no where near what it has been and based on age will probably be no better next year than what it has been this year. If Chubb does entertain offers from other teams or wishes to go to a contender…..a team about 2 hours SE of Cleveland will have a free agent rb at the end of the year and could be looking for a back to share the workload with Jaylen Warren.
You shut your dirty wh--e mouth suggesting something so dastardly.
Kidding with the name calling, but I sure hope that never happens. If he ends up out of Cleveland, I do hope he finds a legit contender and can give them valuable reps. Of course, I hope he stays and brings a championship to Cleveland but... well... you know.
Sadly, I agree.I get it and for Chubbs sake I hope he stays with Cleveland if that is what he truly wants. However if Chubb does look elsewhere, his interest will be from teams that think he can be a piece to the puzzle (KC or Pit), I just think his days of being the bell cow are past him. Chubbs character & respect he has from others around the league, he is a type of person I could definitely see the Steelers/Tomlin would be interested in for the right price.
Not criticizing you, just saying there are people out there that are clueless.Nowhere in my comment does it say he won't get back to performing on a high level.
If anyone can return from that devasting injury to be a top 10 back in the league again, it's a guy like Chubb who has an outstanding work ethic.
My point was that teams, at large, are not paying backs big money. The idea of a team betting on a back returning from a devastating knee injury like that would seem crazy. But no matter what, they should pay Chubb because not only was/is he a great back, but he's a great teammate and someone who is easy to root for as a stand up human being and teammate. It's almost impossible to hate on Nick Chubb. With the amount of dislikable characters the Browns have brought in the last few years, paying Chubb for that sole purpose would be worth it.
I mean, father time is undefeated as is all too often pointed out. I do believe at 28 years old that Chubb can come back and have a strong finish to his career. I too am tired of hearing about how he's done and they need to move on. Give the man who has been so loyal to the franchise a shot.Not criticizing you, just saying there are people out there that are clueless.
When dealing with the nfl one year can make a heck of a difference. Just ask the 49ers this year2021, well, January of '21. Almost 4. Same sentiment.
When dealing with the nfl one year can make a heck of a difference. Just ask the 49ers this year
The deviant is now 4 years past his prime. Most players are long retired by the time they get there, but lets keep trying to justify the investment by trying a guy who hasn't been worth a damn since he quit on his former team nearly half a decade ago. It's like they're afraid to hurt his feelings.BWAAAAH. Sure.
But the Browns are willing to allow Watson to at least compete for the job for more reasons than just the fact they’re paying him a boatload of money.
The Browns believe that Watson can still play at a high level, and that the first seven games of this season were not a true reflection of his ability.
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Why Deshaun Watson will get a chance to come back and at least compete for the starting job: Browns Insider
Why the Browns will bring Deshaun Watson back with a chance to compete for the starting job.www.cleveland.com
I couldnt read the article because of the paywall. However, what do you expect the organization to say? "He sucks, but we gotta roll the dice and see if theres anything left"? He is there for the duration of the contract, plain & simple. No statement, press release or anything else will change that. The only shot the Browns have is getting a Sam Darnold or Russell Wilson. Somebody on the relatively cheap end who can produce and make Watson an expensive backup. Either that or Watson actually plays like a competent starting QBBWAAAAH. Sure.
But the Browns are willing to allow Watson to at least compete for the job for more reasons than just the fact they’re paying him a boatload of money.
The Browns believe that Watson can still play at a high level, and that the first seven games of this season were not a true reflection of his ability.
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Why Deshaun Watson will get a chance to come back and at least compete for the starting job: Browns Insider
Why the Browns will bring Deshaun Watson back with a chance to compete for the starting job.www.cleveland.com
The Browns are giving Deshaun Watson a chance to come back and compete for the starting job in 2025, and it’s not just about the money.I couldnt read the article because of the paywall. However, what do you expect the organization to say? "He sucks, but we gotta roll the dice and see if theres anything left"? He is there for the duration of the contract, plain & simple. No statement, press release or anything else will change that. The only shot the Browns have is getting a Sam Darnold or Russell Wilson. Somebody on the relatively cheap end who can produce and make Watson an expensive backup. Either that or Watson actually plays like a competent starting QB
They will not be able to afford Wilson or Darnold … both have played their way out of consideration … they will have to get really lucky on someone with no perceived value like Fields, Minshew, Ridder, Mac Jones, or Danial Jones … of those I will take Fields or bring back Winston.I couldnt read the article because of the paywall. However, what do you expect the organization to say? "He sucks, but we gotta roll the dice and see if theres anything left"? He is there for the duration of the contract, plain & simple. No statement, press release or anything else will change that. The only shot the Browns have is getting a Sam Darnold or Russell Wilson. Somebody on the relatively cheap end who can produce and make Watson an expensive backup. Either that or Watson actually plays like a competent starting QB
The Browns are giving Deshaun Watson a chance to come back and compete for the starting job in 2025, and it’s not just about the money.
The money is certainly a big part of it, given that the Browns would trigger a $119 million cap charge in 2025 if they designate him a post-June 1 cut or trade. That’s nearly half of the 2024 cap of $255.4 million, and would be untenable.
As it stands, Watson has cap charges of nearly $73 million in each of the next two seasons, and nearly $27 million in 2027. The Browns will likely restructure that deal again in the offseason, pushing more of the money forward and bringing the cap hit down to a much more manageable level. But the Browns are willing to allow Watson to at least compete for the job for more reasons than just the fact they’re paying him a boatload of money.
The Browns believe that Watson can still play at a high level, and that the first seven games of this season were not a true reflection of his ability. Granted, he was not without plenty of blame for the 1-6 record. He missed the open man a lot, and ran himself into too many sacks.
But the Browns also recognize that there were many extenuating circumstances in those first seven games that would’ve made it difficult for any quarterback to succeed. The Browns overhauled the offensive coaching staff and scheme, and it flopped miserably from the start for a number of reasons. The offensive tackles weren’t healthy in the early going coming off their knee surgeries, and either weren’t on the field or struggled. It includes two-time All-Pro right Jack Conklin, who missed the first five games, and left tackle Jedrick Wills Jr., who missed three of the first four. In addition, right guard Wyatt Teller missed Weeks 4-7 with his knee injury.
Starting running back Nick Chubb missed the first six games, and No. 1 receiver Amari Cooper played poorly in the first seven games, leading the NFL in drops in that span — including several sure TDs — and catching only 45.3% of his passes. The presence of Cooper, despite his struggles, delayed the emergence of Jerry Jeudy as the No. 1 receiver.
The new spread-oriented offense installed largely by offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey, was called by Kevin Stefanski, and Dorsey assumed the chore when Jameis Winston took over in Week 8 vs. the Ravens. By then, the Browns had Chubb back and most of their offensive line back healthy, and Winston had time to get the ball downfield.
This is not to say that Watson can come back from surgery to repair his ruptured Achilles and be their starter from Day 1. A lot of his game depends on mobility, and no one knows where he’ll be come September. He also hasn’t started a full season since 2020 in Houston, when he led the NFL with 4,823 yards and threw 33 touchdowns against only seven interceptions.
He’ll also be 30 next season coming off back-to-back season-ending surgeries, including his shoulder surgery in 2023. But he should be ready to practice at least on a limited basis at the start of training camp, and will have a chance to show he can still play winning ball.
The Browns are also realistic enough to know that it might not happen, and will have at least one other bona fide starter in camp who will either come in as the starter, or with a chance to compete for the starting job. That could be Winston or someone else. They’ll look for their potential next QB1 in the draft, free agency or a trade.
But Watson, who’s currently in a walking boot and right on schedule in his recovery, will be part of the mix one way or the other.
Yes … did anyone think the Steelers were going to win the division this year … not many … but they made a couple moves that has really worked out … and they are well coached … they play to their strengths … I actually think that Stefanski is a decent coach … they will need to make a few good moves and get lucky with the QB situation … their roster is not devoid of talent.The Browns have restructured Watson’s deal at least once and possibly twice, pushing $$$ cap hit into future years. A $27 mil dead cap hit in 2027 isn’t too bad but another restructure will increase the 2026 & 2027 cap hits, at what point in time does one just take their medicine? The Browns thought they had a chance at being relevant in 2024, does anyone truly think they can bounce back in 2025 with or without Watson at the helm?
Yes … did anyone think the Steelers were going to win the division this year … not many … but they made a couple moves that has really worked out … and they are well coached … they play to their strengths … I actually think that Stefanski is a decent coach … they will need to make a few good moves and get lucky with the QB situation … their roster is not devoid of talent.
Browns fans hate hearing it, but the Steelers have arguably been the NFL’s best run franchise since the AFL/NFL merger in 1970 created the modern NFL as we know it. They have a set philosophy, culture and a stability that’s paid off hugely. And the Ravens, since they day they left Cleveland, have been the same reliable model as the Steelers. Both organizations have dominated the division and the only time the Browns and Bengals ever break through is in short player-driven windows. Until the Browns and Bengals ever pick a direction and stick with it they’ll be eating the Steelers and Ravens crumbs.Of course, the difference between the Browns and Steelers is very evident - The Steelers are an organization with a philosophy that has proven successful for them. The Browns are a conglomeration of individuals ( despite their protestations) who have been searching for a formula since their return. Their history has been one of infighting for power and influence on the upper level with changing philosophies, as the frequent regime changes won't allow anything to be established. The Steelers bring in players who fit into their system; the Browns bring in players and force them into whatever system they decide to try. It is a group built on analytics with lower regard for character. Can you imagine any team using their first round pick on someone who refused to work out at kick returner at the scouting combine? Or having a GM too lazy to go to combines to meet prospective draft choices, but, instead relying totally on film? Do the Steelers have a meddling owner whose need to sell player jerseys supersedes the advice of those he hired? No, the results will never change until and organization is built.
Lock of the day
Browns over Chiefs. Place ur first communion money on th browns straight up.
Guaranteed
I’m leaning more towards this is the day the Chiefs pull their heads out of their Kelce and start their march to the Super Bowl.This is just the kind of game that the Browns pull a win out of their collective e$.