Big Ten Football 2024

Which Big Ten Team(s) Quality For The CFP In 2024

  • Illinois

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Indiana

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Iowa

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Maryland

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Michigan

    Votes: 3 50.0%
  • Michigan State

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Minnesota

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nebraska

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • Northwestern

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ohio State

    Votes: 5 83.3%
  • Oregon

    Votes: 5 83.3%
  • Penn State

    Votes: 2 33.3%
  • Purdue

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Rutgers

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Southern Cal

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • UCLA

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Washington

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Wisconsin

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • Total voters
    6
  • Poll closed .
I just can’t say that with this defense/special teams and the passing game not able to challenge down the field. Those are all major weaknesses that I don’t think get fixed.
Looks like a pretty typical Chip Kelly offense to me. Quick throws and ground and pound with two future NFL running backs. No need to be chucking 60 yard balls when you can turn high efficiency screens or posts into 80 yard TDs.
 
Everybody bitches about Riley but I think he has called a great game in the 2nd half. Has not forced the issue, if USC had a better line SC would be really good.
 
Looks like a pretty typical Chip Kelly offense to me. Quick throws and ground and pound with two future NFL running backs. No need to be chucking 60 yard balls when you can turn high efficiency screens or posts into 80 yard TDs.
Right but what about when they’re forced to throw down the field? Will Howard hasn’t shown he can do it and better defenses are going to stack the box with tight coverage and make Howard beat them.
 
Right but what about when they’re forced to throw down the field? Will Howard hasn’t shown he can do it and better defenses are going to stack the box with tight coverage and make Howard beat them.
Your great SEC teams have no weaknesses, do they?
Edit: Howard hasn't even run the football yet.
 
Michigan won this game because of coaching. I can’t remember the last time Ohio State won a game where they were out manned and had to reach down deep with great scheme.
.Would be nice if Michigan knew to start Orji against Texas. They still wouldn’t have won but would have been much closer.
 
Orji's stats were less than stellar, but he played with a confidence Warren did not have. Sometimes having the "it" factor is all it takes.
Orji can at least run some and run an effective power option game. Davis Warren can really do nothing except throw interceptions
 
Right but what about when they’re forced to throw down the field? Will Howard hasn’t shown he can do it and better defenses are going to stack the box with tight coverage and make Howard beat them.
Just because he hasn’t had to do it doesn’t mean he can’t. The deep ball is as much about the receiver as the QB and he has the best.
 
ScUM's win was big for them. They needed that or they were staring into an abyss where their season could have gone to a dark place. An infusion of belief and confidence was needed - and they got it.

But there are structural problems in how that program functions philosophically. The "develop players, run the ball, play disciplined, take care of the ball, and play great defense" is as old as football and is a proven way to win.

The problem is it creates a very narrow way to win games. The last 3 years hid this problem, especially last year, because a very mature team was able to execute it by imposing it on their opponents. But if your players are young, development changes because of coaching turnover, you can't throw the ball when the running game is limited, you turn the ball over, your defense gets worn out because the offense can't possess the ball, and/or you find yourself down 2 scores, you aren't built to win unless all or most of those factors go in your direction.

It's a way to play every game fairly close, but it is also a way to not be able to win games against teams that will not allow you to exert your will in those factors.

Coach Moore is in a tough spot. I think he is pursuing his only option. But if you are an elite WR or QB, why would you want to play in that offense? How a program of that stature ends up with Orji, Tuttle, and a walk-on JAG as their options is a consequence. They do have a promising true frosh, but who will he throw to? The only answer is "development", but it's a lot easier when a JJ Smith shows up almost fully developed.

Long-term, this is scUM's challenge.
 
ScUM's win was big for them. They needed that or they were staring into an abyss where their season could have gone to a dark place. An infusion of belief and confidence was needed - and they got it.

But there are structural problems in how that program functions philosophically. The "develop players, run the ball, play disciplined, take care of the ball, and play great defense" is as old as football and is a proven way to win.

The problem is it creates a very narrow way to win games. The last 3 years hid this problem, especially last year, because a very mature team was able to execute it by imposing it on their opponents. But if your players are young, development changes because of coaching turnover, you can't throw the ball when the running game is limited, you turn the ball over, your defense gets worn out because the offense can't possess the ball, and/or you find yourself down 2 scores, you aren't built to win unless all or most of those factors go in your direction.

It's a way to play every game fairly close, but it is also a way to not be able to win games against teams that will not allow you to exert your will in those factors.

Coach Moore is in a tough spot. I think he is pursuing his only option. But if you are an elite WR or QB, why would you want to play in that offense? How a program of that stature ends up with Orji, Tuttle, and a walk-on JAG as their options is a consequence. They do have a promising true frosh, but who will he throw to? The only answer is "development", but it's a lot easier when a JJ Smith shows up almost fully developed.

Long-term, this is scUM's challenge.
Too bad Iowa and TCUN don't play each other this season.
 
Too bad Iowa and TCUN don't play each other this season.
It's basically the same approach - but scUM does it with a more talented roster.

I do love that Iowa RB. But TTUN has a good one too. I think I would take Cade Mc over Orji - but it depends which Cade shows up.
 
IMO Michigan saved their season against USC, but man I really have to agree with the above. In terms of game model, their path to a winning outcome feels very narrow and comes down to whether or not they can fully enforce their will on an opponent physically.

It comes down to whether or not the opponent can be okay or better at stopping the run while knowing they’re going to run the ball 75% or more of the time. If in positions of playing from behind, Michigan pretty much has to force turnovers to set short fields if not score defensively.
 
Another FOX Big Noon snoozer upcoming with UCLA at Penn State. That’s three straight weeks of low-rent Big Ten garbage matchups on alleged premium program Big Noon Saturday.
 
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