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CorrectAFAIK, all codes interpret this the same way (though NFL requires 2 feet inbounds).
CorrectAFAIK, all codes interpret this the same way (though NFL requires 2 feet inbounds).
Looks like it was 2019.What year did NFHS drop the requirement that A have 7 on the LOS?
Having less than 7 on the line is only legal if you have fewer than 11 players on the field. Even by the new rule you have to have "no more than 4 backs". Look at slides 14 and 15 here: https://www.nmact.org/file/FB_PPt-19-20.pdfLooks like it was 2019.
Football Rules Changes - 2019
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Illegal block below the waist on the linebacker. The state has emphasized calling this when done to a lead blocker, usually another back, but in this case the guard.Guard pulls on a power play and turns up through a hole to block a linebacker. Linebacker fills the hole and just before contact with the pulling guard the linebacker dives to the guard's legs and cuts them out creating a pile rather than engaging the guard. Is this legal in HS football? Settling an argument.
What I thought was the case. ThanksIllegal block below the waist on the linebacker. The state has emphasized calling this when done to a lead blocker, usually another back, but in this case the guard.
The usual indicator is who took the new officials course (which would be going on about now). But with the ability to take it online anytime, those numbers are less available without contacting the state or a local secretary who are the ones who get notified (or are supposed to) of newbies.Has anyone heard what the numbers are like for new refs? I heard more "advertising" last fall about becoming a ref and wondering if all the marketing helped...
Yeah, I have no idea. Probably not good if I had to guess.The usual indicator is who took the new officials course (which would be going on about now). But with the ability to take it online anytime, those numbers are less available without contacting the state or a local secretary who are the ones who get notified (or are supposed to) of newbies.
I know in baseball and softball last time I looked - all arguments about quality and experience aside - we are about even now in that the number onboarded is about equivalent to the number who left in the last year (although the total number is still down ALOT since 2020).Yeah, I have no idea. Probably not good if I had to guess.
Contact by the defender means nothing in either instance. I’m gonna assume they had an obvious spike attempt but since he didn’t do it immediately (bad snap), once he regained possession and tried it again it becomes IG. Nothing the defenders do makes any difference.[Context: Team ‘A’ is trailing with under a minute to go, completes pass in-bounds and is in a clear situation where a spike is to be expected.]
B1 (opposing nose tackle) bullrushes A1 (center) into A2 (QB) as the ball is snapped. A2 stumbles and fumbles, regains possession as B1 is bearing down and making contact with A2. A2 throttles the ball in a forward motion into the ground.
No whistle is sounded. Live ball.
The ball, trotting forward on the ground and landing about the LOS, is recovered by the defense. The crew convenes, a penalty flag is then tossed. Intentional Grounding. Team A retains possession.
Did they get this right? I thought the provision was made recently that the QB cannot be flagged for intentional grounding if contact is made by a defender.
What do you mean by "throttles" ?[Context: Team ‘A’ is trailing with under a minute to go, completes pass in-bounds and is in a clear situation where a spike is to be expected.]
B1 (opposing nose tackle) bullrushes A1 (center) into A2 (QB) as the ball is snapped. A2 stumbles and fumbles, regains possession as B1 is bearing down and making contact with A2. A2 throttles the ball in a forward motion into the ground.
No whistle is sounded. Live ball.
The ball, trotting forward on the ground and landing about the LOS, is recovered by the defense. The crew convenes, a penalty flag is then tossed. Intentional Grounding. Team A retains possession.
Did they get this right? I thought the provision was made recently that the QB cannot be flagged for intentional grounding if contact is made by a defender.
It should have just been “throws.” (I tried to think of a word that describes a sharp, downward throw … and forgot to take out ‘throttles’ when I should’ve just said ‘throws’.)What do you mean by "throttles" ?
Gotcha.... Next question......It should have just been “throws.” (I tried to think of a word that describes a sharp, downward throw … and forgot to take out ‘throttles’ when I should’ve just said ‘throws’.)
Trying to find replay of it. I’ll link it in as soon as I can find it.Gotcha.... Next question......
Did the bull rush interrupt the snap?
No need..... This is an illegal forward pass (Intentional Grounding)Trying to find replay of it. I’ll link it in as soon as I can find it.
My recollection on the bull rush is the exchange between center and QB was initiated, but not finished, when the center gets driven into the QB (ball is in QB’s hands but still under Center’s hiney.) It was freakishly close. The replay will do it justice.
Is it true that the offensive holding penalty is being changed? It is no longer from the spot of the foul...
Their Question said:The offense has the ball at the opponent’s 9 yard line.
The Qb rolls to the left and fires a pass into the endzone.
The Corner picks it off in the endzone and starts to return it out. The intended WR strips the ball from the corner while in
the endzone and the balls rolls forward out of bounds at the 3. During the attempted return a linebacker blocks an offensive lineman below the waist at the 9.
What do we have?
Their Answer said:Per high school rules a fumble that rolls forward returns
to the spot of the fumble (end of the run) and in this case
that is the endzone. The offense will accept the penalty on the return team and it will be enforced from the end of the run (endzone).
As a result, the intercepting team will have a penalty in
their own endzone, thus this will be a safety.
If there had not been a penalty on the return, we would
have a touchback.