My man. I got blamed earlier in the thread with pulling the race card. Stop with the friendly fire
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Oil Filter
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Anyone who asserts or even implies that the questions about Glenville's numbers are solely because of race should get accused of playing the race card -- because that's the card they're playing. Don't want the accusation? Don't play the card.
My mistakeMy man. I got blamed earlier in the thread with pulling the race card. Stop with the friendly fire
I just think that the folks that are this consumed about it are a little weird. No one was coming for their numbers when they were getting their butts kicked. The minute they started competing in D1 and started sending a lot of kids to college you saw the outrage. Now that they've dropped to DIV like most inner-city schools have dropped guys are losing their minds.
smurfyeah19
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With what Perkins did to Rocky River earlier this year I'm more optimistic of a legit fight in D4. I do think it is somewhat hilarious that Glenville won't play a D4 team until the playoffs.
It's the same conversation had about the likes of Ursuline, Mooney, Alter etc. We can't ignore that they have a unique enrollment method as well that a typical public school doesn't
What does Perkins do well? And most importantly its going to start up front so do you think theyll be able to stop the run? Genuinely asking
Oil Filter
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"Consumed" is an overstatement. "Puzzled" is probably more accurate.
Suckage breeds indifference.
Is OHSAA losing their minds? Because it seems they still don't have answers, either.
BTW, "most" inner-city schools aren't DIV. It's been pointed out that Glenville is the only DIV in Cleveland. You get a couple in Columbus, a couple in Cincinnati, but look at Toledo, the rest of Columbus, the rest of Cincinnati: DIII and above.
Oil Filter
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More appropriate regulations and bylaws would have solved this. Go where you want, play where you go.
You see, the question here isn't really about Glenville at all. Rather, it's about OHSAA and how their transfer bylaws are interpreted, applied, and approved.
World breaker hulk 282
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OHSAA could solve this by letting each team play up one division or two.
But once they move up. Must stay up for 2 years.
Because Glenville would gladly move up a division or two.
So would have Kirtland and others along the way
But once they move up. Must stay up for 2 years.
Because Glenville would gladly move up a division or two.
So would have Kirtland and others along the way
scbuckeye99
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#4 is last for a reason to be fair. It is 2023 and one would like to think we're past all this as a society but.....not all of us are past this as a society.So itās a more of a āIf it aināt white, it aināt right thing!ā ? I know it being 2023 there is a huge over correction that puts us in the atmosphere of not being able to say that it exists but from your explanation thatās what it sounds like.
I stand by my #1 because well this is a.) a football forum and b.) well again nobody would care if this were being done in swimming or cross country or golf.
I do like how you jumped straight to #4. It's almost as if that was the answer you yourself were looking for
scbuckeye99
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Nah. the dumbest thing I wrote was on the 1999 AP Calc exam. I argued that the Rock was better than Stone Cold Steve Austin which in retrospect was pretty stupid of me.Jeezopeat that's the dumbfckenist thing you've ever written. I've been keepin tabs.
Do you really think any major part of the non-"anglo-saxon" demographic had the pull to put Prime and his unproven team on national tv every second for 4 weeks until they got thumped? Care to put a percent onto these evil doers? Do you really think the non-"anglo-saxon" demographic rooting for OSU, Ga,... Kent St, didn't also get bored by the attention being given to a team that hadn't won.. at thing? Even after the thumping, the rabies has only dropped to every other second.
Come-on at least TRY not to be stupid. Sighs of relief that over-attention had started to abate had nothing to do with Coach Ginn, Glenville who you know, ACTUALLY WON nor any presumed opposition to them. Chop that race card into little bits before shoving it or you're gonna get hurt.
scbuckeye99
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It is nice to know I have a following...or follower I guessJeezopeat that's the dumbfckenist thing you've ever written. I've been keepin tabs.
Do you really think any major part of the non-"anglo-saxon" demographic had the pull to put Prime and his unproven team on national tv every second for 4 weeks until they got thumped? Care to put a percent onto these evil doers? Do you really think the non-"anglo-saxon" demographic rooting for OSU, Ga,... Kent St, didn't also get bored by the attention being given to a team that hadn't won.. at thing? Even after the thumping, the rabies has only dropped to every other second.
Come-on at least TRY not to be stupid. Sighs of relief that over-attention had started to abate had nothing to do with Coach Ginn, Glenville who you know, ACTUALLY WON nor any presumed opposition to them. Chop that race card into little bits before shoving it or you're gonna get hurt.
EaglePride01
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Ah, if it were so simple.
Now as far as the current clusterf*** that is the OHSAA transfer bylaws, it seems to me that there are only two possible outcomes for Glenville: (1) every Ginn Academy attendee has a legit address within the Glenville school zone (or, if outside Cleveland, closest to the Glenville zone) and are therefore eligible; or (2) if any one of the "investigatees" that is attending Ginn Academy and playing for Glenville does not so reside, then Glenville must forfeit any game in which they participated and declare them ineligible for the remainder of the season. For those hoping to see a CB applied, the current rules don't really permit a CB to apply in this instance (which is exactly why they aren't reporting one).
Gamma Gobbler
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Your integral calculation may have been skewed by assuming the Rock's dependent variable of success in Hollywood was less than Austin's performative artistry tangential of related WWE fame....just say'n. Not dumb, just why?
Oil Filter
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It should be. It is unclear how OHSAA claims to have the moral authority to stand in judgement of the decisions that a family makes for its kids.
Which is what Glenville seems to be asserting.
Which is the elephant in the room. If even one of these players does not live either a) in the Glenville attendance zone, or b) outside of CMSD in a house for which Glenville is the closest CMSD school, then those players were not eligible for the first 5 games. If one of those players participated, that's a forfeit.
Given Glenville's location relative to other CMSD schools, it's not clear where one could live outside of CMSD at still have Glenville as the closest CMSD school. And that is the only situation where a student could generate a CB number. Glenville pushed all their chips in; every player lives in the Glenville attendance zone. No CB to be had there.
Gamma Gobbler
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Can you show me where "OHSAA claims to have the moral authority"? As much as you search you will probably find it does not exist, as much as the word democracy does not exist in the Declaration of Independence or the US Constitution. Then again, what is morally correct, yours, mine or the Yeti in upstate WA? I wake up in the morning and have a cup of coffee with a shot of bourbon, let the dog out to pizz, read the news, watch reruns of Seinfeld and log on to Yappi to make posts, talk with friends on this sight and to see if this thread died. It's a lonesome life but a good one.
You by avatar name are Oil Filter so this should make sense. It has been well over three months and 550 posts (3000 miles of text) since this thread started. Change that oil and filter, throw it away and let it go.
Well that's pretty simple ain't it? They approved a rule that is in conflict with the legislation and majority of voters, that is some sort of purity test whether certain kids can participate in sports or not, and which has nothing to do with recruiting and/or multiple transfers. This was part of the grand bargain (with mostly small school programs) to not allow a vote on private separation.
Oil Filter
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Look in their bylaws. If they don't agree with the reason a family changes schools, the kids' participation opportunities are restricted.
That is an undeniable assertion of authority, and is undeniably on moral grounds ("We don't like it, so you can't have it.").
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Rack162
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Without CB, Alter (D4, 65cb) and Ursuline (D3, 95cb) would be D5, while Mooney (D4, 105cb) would be either the smallest school in D6 or the Biggest in D7.
Crimson and Black
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Not true at all.
Im pretty sure Glenville fans and the fans who dont have some weird disdain for an inner city high school trying to get kids out the hood "get" that communities like Stuebenville prioritize high school football to the point where theyll waste the whole season crying about a matchup thats not even guaranteed on both sides in my opinion
The real game changer was Ginn Jr taking over the Ginn Elite youth program. And more schools than just Glenville benefit from Ginn Elite. My personal Mr. Ohio played for them as a kid and is not at Glenville lol. Which again is why the Ville tears tend to come from somewhere far away.
I am not claiming Glenville gets players to the NFL. I do believe in the mantra "iron sharpens iron" though. The more reps and practice you have with better athletes and competition is beneficial in the long run IMO.
I see the benefits in athletes competing at better programs at all levels.
That would be an inaccurate statement then. East Cleveland Shaw is also DIV after being a DI school once.
Rack162
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It baffles me how pointing out a wrong can be interpreted as hatred and prejudice. Many other High Schools have also been forced to sit their transfers out; they simply don't have nearly as many as GA has. It's not like the GA fans who run PR for GV football on here deny where all these kids are coming from.
Anyway, I understand. YT schools used to get away with it, so keep your mouth shut and leave us alone.
āLeave us aloneāIt baffles me how pointing out a wrong can be interpreted as hatred and prejudice. Many other High Schools have also been forced to sit their transfers out; they simply don't have nearly as many as GA has. It's not like the GA fans who run PR for GV football on here deny where all these kids are coming from.
Anyway, I understand. YT schools used to get away with it, so keep your mouth shut and leave us alone.