I am new here but have a nephew on Butler's football team and wanted some opinions. I looked up previous coaches and Hyett won 9 games in his first two years, Puckett won 8 and Cates won 4 his first year. Seems like a trend with head coaches in their first two years assuming Cates can pull out two more wins. Is this a Butler athlete thing or a coaching thing or a mixture of both. Cates seems to get more numbers out than Puckett did and my nephew really likes him. However, my nephew said him and other kids were not going to come out this year if he kept the previous wide outs coach. I guess that coach was moved from wide outs to another position and pulled from offensive coordinator this season. nephew said hthat coach just stands around talking rather than coaching and is really cocky about how good he used to be. my nephew said they had a much better offense last year but the previous oc was terrible at play calling and the wide outs coach they have now is a much better coach and he is actually being coached up. So I ask, is this a coaching issue year to year, athletes or a mixture of both. Is there an issue with assistant coaches? Just trying to figure out why we place the same year after year despite new head coaches. I am an old has been so I am not trying to trigger anyone here just want honest opinions from the diehard mvl fans.