2024 Football

birdog said:
Running backs that saw time on Saturday were 22, 26, 32, 12. Daddy's boy (#28) left 2 weeks ago. GBM 💪 🏈
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Yes, 26 and 28 were primary runners to start the season- the others have been backups/JV with some minutes played in running clock game. Hopefully we get RB1 back for GCL gauntlet.
 
Kballer said:
Yes, 26 and 28 were primary runners to start the season- the others have been backups/JV with some minutes played in running clock game. Hopefully we get RB1 back for GCL gauntlet.
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Running backs 3 and for were at qb and injured to start the season. You are probably going to see more of them as the season progresses regardless of health of the others.
 
The OL, all returners, didn't do a good job Saturday. No running game and gave up 3 sacks. QB had a lot of pressure when throwing. WR's couldn't get separation from DB's. Maybe we looked bad with a short week of prep. I would have preferred not playing last week and having a bye week prior to opening the gauntlet of GCL play and then Iggy, St. Ed's and Michigan. Beat X!
 
birdog said:
How is the health of projected starters? PM me if you must. Thanks GBM 💪 🏈
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I have the utmost confidence in QB1 or QB2.

As far as the final score, hard to go against history. Neither X or Moe has a winning streak in this series greater than 4–since Moe’s dominant GCL run of the 70s & 80s. Moe sits at 4 right now. 😬

Talent on both teams, but Moe’s run game has been subpar. That is huge in a GCL matchup.
 
boothmark77 said:
I have the utmost confidence in QB1 or QB2.

As far as the final score, hard to go against history. Neither X or Moe has a winning streak in this series greater than 4–since Moe’s dominant GCL run of the 70s & 80s. Moe sits at 4 right now. 😬

Talent on both teams, but Moe’s run game has been subpar. That is huge in a GCL matchup.
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QB3 (freshman) not bad either. Moe seems set at QB for next 4 years!
 
Doublehelix said:
It's always the parents. Always. PR is one of them.

Equivalent to the self righteous crowd over at Elder. It's the parents and older alumni. The players and coaches are always well respected.

Even Ramsey hates the parents and apparently laid into them before the season it's gotten so bad. Some of the stories from parents to get their kids playing time is HILARIOUS and CRAZY. They deceive and connive from early grade school to ensure their pecking order.
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About Parents behaving badly:

It's now all about the money and there's alot fueling the parents emotions to behave so badly.

From the latest US Govt Survey of Consumer Finances, those with a college degree have a median income 2.22x and a median net worth 4.35x higher than those with only a high school education. It's almost a dividing line now-a-days between the haves and the have nots. So parents want kids to go to college so they can have a successful adult life. But 78% of adults live paycheck to paycheck with little to nothing saved for even their own retirement, let alone anything saved for their kids college. So parents want their kids to college, thinking it's essential for their kid to be successful as adults, but most of the parents are broke and in debt to begin with. Then factor in the tuition prices of schools like Moeller, St. Xavier, Elder, etc.

Now let's also factor in the price of college which is now astronomical because it has been rising at a rate of 3x the inflation rate since the student loan program began. That's because the colleges keep raising their tuition rates to capture more loan money from the government. The government doesn't care how much things cost as long as they can just pass it on to whoever signs the loan. It's a $1.5 Trillion industry (scam). So the only way their kid is going to college is to be either be broke and in debt a decade or so to pay off student loans (Average = $39K, with $100k debt not uncommon). Or their kid can get a scholarship so the parents don't have to pay. So of course they're going to push their kid and their kid's school.

Whatever it takes for their kid to get a scholarship because the alternatives are ugly. Either their kid will stay on the low end of the wage scale or be in massive debt for a very long time. So of course there's a lot of fuel and emotion behind why parents are behaving the way they are, as wrong as it is.
 
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MoeBeturLojik said:
About Parents behaving badly:

It's now all about the money and there's alot fueling the parents emotions to behave so badly.

From the latest US Govt Survey of Consumer Finances, those with a college degree have a median income 2.22x and a median net worth 4.35x higher than those with only a high school education. It's almost a dividing line now-a-days between the haves and the have nots. So parents want kids to go to college so they can have a successful adult life. But 78% of adults live paycheck to paycheck with little to nothing saved for even their own retirement, let alone anything saved for their kids college. So parents want their kids to college, thinking it's essential for their kid to be successful as adults, but most of the parents are broke and in debt to begin with. Then factor in the tuition prices of schools like Moeller, St. Xavier, Elder, etc.

Now let's also factor in the price of college which is now astronomical because it has been rising at a rate of 3x the inflation rate since the student loan program began. That's because the colleges keep raising their tuition rates to capture more loan money from the government. The government doesn't care how much things cost as long as they can just pass it on to whoever signs the loan. It's a $1.5 Trillion industry (scam). So the only way their kid is going to college is to be either be broke and in debt a decade or so to pay off student loans (Average = $39K, with $100k debt not uncommon). Or their kid can get a scholarship so the parents don't have to pay. So of course they're going to push their kid and their kid's school.

Whatever it takes for their kid to get a scholarship because the alternatives are ugly. Either their kid will stay on the low end of the wage scale or be in massive debt for a very long time. So of course there's a lot of fuel and emotion behind why parents are behaving the way they are, as wrong as it is.
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In addition to what you mentioned about competing for college dollars, it's also:

1) helicopter parenting - so many parents today can't let their kids figure out a tough circumstance without feeling the need to intervene and save them
2) less and less trust of authority and decision makers and groups more likely to voice their displeasure when they feel things are being done unfairly (honestly, this is a good thing imo) - this is happening in society more and more as people in power continue to screw the little guy and people are fighting back
3) if we're being honest, there are a TON of politics that go on at the high school level. Certain kids get more opportunity because of it, at times at the detriment of good players - the kid with the beef IS sometimes better and should be playing. This "sour grapes" narrative doesn't always apply. There are very good players all over the city getting screwed every week because of some of this stupidity
4) coaches are human - to assume they are right 100% of the time about personnel decisions is crazy, yet they are always given this benefit of the doubt. Sometimes, they simply just make the wrong call (oftentimes because of #3)
 
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I was thoroughly impressed with #18 on offense vs StX. That kid blocked like a bulldozer and ran some great routes on offense. Somebody told me he is committed to Colgate and is a really good student. With his size and speed I could see him getting bigger offers. By far the best WR I have seen this season.
 
FourthAndOne said:
I was thoroughly impressed with #18 on offense vs StX. That kid blocked like a bulldozer and ran some great routes on offense. Somebody told me he is committed to Colgate and is a really good student. With his size and speed I could see him getting bigger offers. By far the best WR I have seen this season.
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He is really having a good season- had 3 catches vs LS and 2 of them were TDs. Maybe that is his dream school? One of mine turned down bigger offers to go to a school they fell in love with during a camp- had a great college experience with zero regrets.
 
Good for Moe for scheduling almost 20 freshman football games. That's unheard of, but they are doing it to provide ample opportunity for a lot of very good players on the freshman team. There are a ton of kids getting great playing time and you can tell it is helping as both the A and B squads are both getting better as the season progresses. This is another one of the reasons Moe is killing it right now in most sports - they are developing everyone and it shows.

Alot of schools say "it's too hard" to find that many games, or "we don't have the coaches for that" - but Moe knows the investment it takes to stay on top.
 
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Doublehelix said:
Good for Moe for scheduling almost 20 freshman football games. That's unheard of, but they are doing it to provide ample opportunity for a lot of very good players on the freshman team. There are a ton of kids getting great playing time and you can tell it is helping as both the A and B squads are both getting better as the season progresses. This is another one of the reasons Moe is killing it right now in most sports - they are developing everyone and it shows.

Alot of schools say "it's too hard" to find that many games, or "we don't have the coaches for that" - but Moe knows the investment it takes to stay on top.
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It was not always this way. Prior to Elder taking over (the coach not the school) the number of games for frosh and JV was less than 10 some years. The AD was clueless (insert jokes here), but changes were made and Moe got it right. Have to keep kids interested.
 
boothmark77 said:
It was not always this way. Prior to Elder taking over (the coach not the school) the number of games for frosh and JV was less than 10 some years. The AD was clueless (insert jokes here), but changes were made and Moe got it right. Have to keep kids interested.
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For sure. You have to give kids the opportunity to show what they can do, and frankly, it's more important than winning games at the freshman level. It keeps the talent in the program strong and healthy, and ensures a robust varsity roster, where depth is very important to compete at the highest levels.

In D1 football, you can't compete for state titles only focusing on your best athletes. It won't be enough.
 
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Doublehelix said:
Good for Moe for scheduling almost 20 freshman football games. That's unheard of, but they are doing it to provide ample opportunity for a lot of very good players on the freshman team. There are a ton of kids getting great playing time and you can tell it is helping as both the A and B squads are both getting better as the season progresses. This is another one of the reasons Moe is killing it right now in most sports - they are developing everyone and it shows.

Alot of schools say "it's too hard" to find that many games, or "we don't have the coaches for that" - but Moe knows the investment it takes to stay on top.
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Having gone to a few GCL and non conference freshman games the difference is striking between Moeller and the competition. With nearly 100 kids and a dozen coaches who are totally bought in- it really is quite an accomplishment, the kudos are well earned! You never know who will stick with football or become a stud- they even have a big kid on Varsity this year who had never played football until freshman year at Moeller who has a D1 offer- so giving as many guys as possible a chance to play is really beneficial to a program long term.
 
This weeks game with an Iggy has all of the characteristics of a trap game. Long bus ride, facing a team with a disappointing record, Big Moe coming off of an emotional game where they had as much or more penalty yardage than Elder had offensively. Iggy is better than their record indicates. They played well against a good Toledo Central Catholic team and more than acquitted themselves against Ed's. Ignatius has already played the best teams in NE Ohio including Avon, Walsh Jesuit, Mentor and Hoban. Their 6 losses have come against teams with a combined record of 36-4. I hope the coaches say something to the team about stupid mistakes and looking ahead to their game in two weeks. They can not afford to be complacent. GBM 💪 🏈
 
birdog said:
This weeks game with an Iggy has all of the characteristics of a trap game. Long bus ride, facing a team with a disappointing record, Big Moe coming off of an emotional game where they had as much or more penalty yardage than Elder had offensively. Iggy is better than their record indicates. They played well against a good Toledo Central Catholic team and more than acquitted themselves against Ed's. Ignatius has already played the best teams in NE Ohio including Avon, Walsh Jesuit, Mentor and Hoban. Their 6 losses have come against teams with a combined record of 36-4. I hope the coaches say something to the team about stupid mistakes and looking ahead to their game in two weeks. They can not afford to be complacent. GBM 💪 🏈
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Friday travels (instead of Saturday) may not help either.
 
I may be wrong, but games against Cleveland games have always been played on Saturday. Wonder why this is a Friday game (guessing field availability). If it’s a normal school day, it will be a long day with the bus ride. I agree that Ignatius is better than their record indicates. Biggest thing is cut down on the penalties. 200+ penalty yards is ridiculous. I think some were questionable or nonexistent, but they have to be more discipline.

I know it will never change, but it would be great if we could play West, Winton Woods, Anderson and keep Princeton. Four local teams on the schedule. I know it’s beating a dead horse but it’s that time of the year. I understand leagues have mandated games, but that turns into a joke, I think West has scored 50+ in 4 straight games. What’s that doing for schools in your league? It would be great if some adults could get together and figure out some better options.
 
The Game said:
I may be wrong, but games against Cleveland games have always been played on Saturday. Wonder why this is a Friday game (guessing field availability). If it’s a normal school day, it will be a long day with the bus ride. I agree that Ignatius is better than their record indicates. Biggest thing is cut down on the penalties. 200+ penalty yards is ridiculous. I think some were questionable or nonexistent, but they have to be more discipline.

I know it will never change, but it would be great if we could play West, Winton Woods, Anderson and keep Princeton. Four local teams on the schedule. I know it’s beating a dead horse but it’s that time of the year. I understand leagues have mandated games, but that turns into a joke, I think West has scored 50+ in 4 straight games. What’s that doing for schools in your league? It would be great if some adults could get together and figure out some better options.
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St. Ignatius’ coach elected to have all of their games on Fridays this season, including when they travel to Cincy to play St. X next Friday. I cannot recall the reasoning, but it was mentioned on the Ignatius thread in the summer.
 
The Game said:
I may be wrong, but games against Cleveland games have always been played on Saturday. Wonder why this is a Friday game (guessing field availability). If it’s a normal school day, it will be a long day with the bus ride. I agree that Ignatius is better than their record indicates. Biggest thing is cut down on the penalties. 200+ penalty yards is ridiculous. I think some were questionable or nonexistent, but they have to be more discipline.

I know it will never change, but it would be great if we could play West, Winton Woods, Anderson and keep Princeton. Four local teams on the schedule. I know it’s beating a dead horse but it’s that time of the year. I understand leagues have mandated games, but that turns into a joke, I think West has scored 50+ in 4 straight games. What’s that doing for schools in your league? It would be great if some adults could get together and figure out some better options.
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birdog said:
This weeks game with an Iggy has all of the characteristics of a trap game. Long bus ride, facing a team with a disappointing record, Big Moe coming off of an emotional game where they had as much or more penalty yardage than Elder had offensively. Iggy is better than their record indicates. They played well against a good Toledo Central Catholic team and more than acquitted themselves against Ed's. Ignatius has already played the best teams in NE Ohio including Avon, Walsh Jesuit, Mentor and Hoban. Their 6 losses have come against teams with a combined record of 36-4. I hope the coaches say something to the team about stupid mistakes and looking ahead to their game in two weeks. They can not afford to be complacent. GBM 💪 🏈
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This team has known the schedule for months now (minus the last game which is now Friday and a 6 hour drive but they are off school that day due to conferences) and seem mentally prepared for it. There is no complaining or excuses- just a get er done attitude. Would it be nice to play most of our games in our backyard? Absolutely- but this is certainly building a resilient team that is more than capable of going all the way this year. These coaches aren’t overlooking ANY teams- they never looked past lasalle to elder and wont look past Iggys to Eds either.
 
boothmark77 said:
St. Ignatius’ coach elected to have all of their games on Fridays this season, including when they travel to Cincy to play St. X next Friday. I cannot recall the reasoning, but it was mentioned on the Ignatius thread in the summer.
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The reasoning was awful, and it turned Ignatius into a team with no real home field.

Moe is going to curb stomp Ignatius. This is the worst ignatius defense in 40 years and the team is riddled with injuries. Basic run plays will go for 50 yards. Extremely weak front 6 outside of a sophomore linebacker.

The program is an absolute mess and doesn’t seem to be improving.
 
With Matt P. aka the Polish Pistol rewriting the record books, I have a serious and thoughtful question. When will the MoeTown tailgate menu include kielbassa, pierogies and potato pancakes. 😋 GBM 💪🏈
 
birdog said:
With Matt P. aka the Polish Pistol rewriting the record books, I have a serious and thoughtful question. When will the MoeTown tailgate menu include kielbassa, pierogies and potato pancakes. 😋 GBM 💪🏈
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We have had the Goetta truck lately thanks to a generous Moe FB family- does that count? Broadcast from Igggys was great- lots of energy despite score and hillarious nicknames!
 
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