2024 Football

WE HAVE! How many pats on the back and that-a-boys you need to fulfill your admit fetish?

State Titles last 5 years (2020-2024)
Moe 4 (Baseball 1, Volleyball 3)
St. X 7 (Swimming 4, Football 1, Volleyball 1, Cross Country 1)
LaSalle 1 (Football 1)
Elder 0
Then why do people whine so much about all of this "cheating"???

Why do the best swimmers go to X? Hmmm....maybe that's why the best athletes are choosing Moeller?
 
For a fan base that claims winning is not important, these dudes are awfully consumed with Moeller Curb stomping the Bombers in every sport. Maybe St. X could work with the GCL and propose to not keep score in all future GCL sporting events? I guess 1600 students from all over the city, and 100M endowment makes it difficult to compete? WDT, all you do is cry.
Winning is important, but the ways and means of going about business is the contrast. Also, the Moe's fan base constant denial/defense of the worst kept secret is amusing.

Let me say congrats one more time and give another pat-on-back to Moe. :)
 
Winning is important, but the ways and means of going about business is the contrast. Also, the Moe's fan base constant denial/defense of the worst kept secret is amusing.

Let me say congrats one more time and give another pat-on-back to Moe. :)
Literally everyone, athlete and non-athlete, is getting some kind of financial aid.

Help me understand why giving aid to athletes is any different than giving aid to the kid that's great at Algebra?

Athletes at each and every GCL school are getting tuition assistance.
 
Then why do people whine so much about all of this "cheating"???

Why do the best swimmers go to X? Hmmm....maybe that's why the best athletes are choosing Moeller?
Swimming at St. X is a different monster of 40+ years thanks to the facilities and the Cincy Marlins Swimming Club. All I know on St. X swimming front.

Personally, I don't think Moe is cheating. They've found what works for Moe's athletics, just like St. X, Elder, and LaSalle. Varying approaches to athletic success is nothing new at any level.
 
Swimming at St. X is a different monster of 40+ years thanks to the facilities and the Cincy Marlins Swimming Club. All I know on St. X swimming front.

Personally, I don't think Moe is cheating. They've found what works for Moe's athletics, just like St. X, Elder, and LaSalle. Varying approaches to athletic success is nothing new at any level.

Wow, go back and read your last 10 posts pointing fingers at cheating. Now your backing off? What changed your mind in the past 10 minutes?
 
Literally everyone, athlete and non-athlete, is getting some kind of financial aid.

Help me understand why giving aid to athletes is any different than giving aid to the kid that's great at Algebra?

Athletes at each and every GCL school are getting tuition assistance.
Believe EVERY student (athlete, band member, Algebra scholar) received $6,500 off tuition at St. X this year (told this info). A select few didn't benefit or parents who pimp their kids for athletics, but the entire St. X student body.

Vouchers, EdChoice, etc is a convo for another day. Hopefully, the rest of the GCL learned from LaSalle's financial mistakes.
 
Wow, go back and read your last 10 posts pointing fingers at cheating. Now your backing off? What changed your mind in the past 10 minutes?
Was the word cheating ever used? That was Moe fan pointing fingers at themselves. I've stated numerous times on other post that Moe has found what works for them. Can't deny the athletic success Moe has had over the years.
 
Let’s not confuse financial aid with giving money to athletes. Not 1 person at St. X that was given financial aid because of their athletic ability. Is Moeller’s mission to win as many games on athletic fields as we can. It can’t say winning games on our own field because they can’t afford their own football stadium. And can’t say anything about sportsmanship they have to drive across town to find a place to play home games because they have pissed off any school around them by either recruiting in the “gray area” or being just flat out jerks.
 
The rules state you can't recruit kids strictly on athletics, which is fine. The rule is dumb however, because athletes are also students too. Why are sports singled out when a potential student could be great at any number of things?

There is nothing that prohibits a school from giving financial aid how they see fit.
 
Students are also athletes. Schools give money for a ton of reasons, why can't athletics be part of that?
The rules state you can't recruit kids strictly on athletics, which is fine. The rule is dumb however, because athletes are also students too. Why are sports singled out when a potential student could be great at any number of things?

There is nothing that prohibits a school from giving financial aid how they see fit.
You've proven my point concerning ways and means. St. X gives EVERY student $6,500 off tuition, while Moe distributes money how they see fit, so they can land back-to-back Mr. Ohio's. It's just a difference in philosophy and trying to justify Moe's approach isn't required. Also, there is a difference between financial aid (need-based) and parents/coaches/AD negotiating a deal on tuition.
 
You've proven my point concerning ways and means. St. X gives EVERY student $6,500 off tuition, while Moe distributes money how they see fit, so they can land back-to-back Mr. Ohio's. It's just a difference in philosophy and trying to justify Moe's approach isn't required. Also, there is a difference between financial aid (need-based) and parents/coaches/AD negotiating a deal on tuition.
Not all financial aid is need based. You could be a multi-millionaire and qualify for some of these vouchers.

YES!!! So why is everyone always on Moe's back for this?

The answer is simple - they're winning. It has more to do with the psyche of the accuser than it does the operations of the accused. Moe is doing nothing wrong.
 
We have an angry bomber! Congrats on all of your swimming titles- I’m sure people stop you at the airport all of the time to congratulate you when they see your X pullover on how impressive the backstrokers are at your school! Moeller's freshman coaches are a huge part of the success in recent years of the football program- kudos to whoever hired them. Watched the last few Moe/ X freshman games and the difference in energy on the sideline and interactions with the players is stark. The x coaches are all middle-aged to older white guys who just chew kids out all the time vs. Moeller coaches who are young, many are black and are hyping kids up- which would a 14 year old kid want to play for?

If you KNOW Moeller is cheating and recruiting against the rules- turn them in! It not, you’re just shouting in the wind and no one is listening. BUT i would be very careful because you might find out what is going on in your own home under your nose…
 
I’m sure people stop you at the airport all of the time to congratulate you when they see your X pullover on how impressive the backstrokers are at your school!

Typical Moeller meathead mentality, as expected.

Let’s denigrate another sport (and our own student athletes who play that sport) just because another area team is better than us in it. Real inspiring!
 
Typical Moeller meathead mentality, as expected.

Let’s denigrate another sport (and our own student athletes who play that sport) just because another area team is better than us in it. Real inspiring!
You a-holes are the denigrators-in-chief. GBM 🏊‍♂️
 
Typical Moeller meathead mentality, as expected.

Let’s denigrate another sport (and our own student athletes who play that sport) just because another area team is better than us in it. Real inspiring!
Typical Moeller meathead mentality, as expected.

Let’s denigrate another sport (and our own student athletes who play that sport) just because another area team is better than us in it. Real inspiring!
Tit for tat! You can’t seriously see all the crap being thrown at us on our own thread and think my teasing about swimmers is the issue? Totally tone deaf as expected…
 
We have an angry bomber! Congrats on all of your swimming titles- I’m sure people stop you at the airport all of the time to congratulate you when they see your X pullover on how impressive the backstrokers are at your school! Moeller's freshman coaches are a huge part of the success in recent years of the football program- kudos to whoever hired them. Watched the last few Moe/ X freshman games and the difference in energy on the sideline and interactions with the players is stark. The x coaches are all middle-aged to older white guys who just chew kids out all the time vs. Moeller coaches who are young, many are black and are hyping kids up- which would a 14 year old kid want to play for?

If you KNOW Moeller is cheating and recruiting against the rules- turn them in! It not, you’re just shouting in the wind and no one is listening. BUT i would be very careful because you might find out what is going on in your own home under your nose…
They were cheating per OHSAA a few years back, plus again another Moe fan mentioning "cheating". See a pattern here? :) They aren't hanging banners for 9G football, no matter the skin tone of the coaches on sidelines.
 
They were cheating per OHSAA a few years back, plus again another Moe fan mentioning "cheating". See a pattern here? :) They aren't hanging banners for 9G football, no matter the skin tone of the coaches on sidelines.
The accusations have been flung too often by the blue people to count- losing this often to the empire (despite claims about “not caring about sports”) clearly is starting to get under a lot of bombers skin, so they are lashing out like losers often do. The finger pointing about Moe drawing in certain kids was what i addressed- never said anyone gives a hoot about freshman scores. But everyone should care about drawing kids in to their program at the starting level with a great, hardworking and relatable coaching staff- this is a building block for success at the varsity level. You people trying to start a fight post season, but the winning for the year has been done and it was blue and gold all the way
 
The accusations have been flung too often by the blue people to count- losing this often to the empire (despite claims about “not caring about sports”) clearly is starting to get under a lot of bombers skin, so they are lashing out like losers often do. The finger pointing about Moe drawing in certain kids was what i addressed- never said anyone gives a hoot about freshman scores. But everyone should care about drawing kids in to their program at the starting level with a great, hardworking and relatable coaching staff- this is a building block for success at the varsity level. You people trying to start a fight post season, but the winning for the year has been done and it was blue and gold all the way
This pretty much hits the heart of the issue for all of the schools constantly whining about Moe.

What's ironic are the pleas from these schools that sports just aren't that important, which is hilarious. They would want nothing better than to be on top, and they know it. The ultimate sour grapes.
 
The accusations have been flung too often by the blue people to count- losing this often to the empire (despite claims about “not caring about sports”) clearly is starting to get under a lot of bombers skin, so they are lashing out like losers often do. The finger pointing about Moe drawing in certain kids was what i addressed- never said anyone gives a hoot about freshman scores. But everyone should care about drawing kids in to their program at the starting level with a great, hardworking and relatable coaching staff- this is a building block for success at the varsity level. You people trying to start a fight post season, but the winning for the year has been done and it was blue and gold all the way
Going back as far as Gerry Faust (made recruiting an artform), Moe has always done it Moe's way. Is it whining or the truth? Moe fan gets awfully defensive when the obvious is stated and are in constant denial when they are winning and losing. Moe, St. X, Elder, and even LaSalle have all been atop of the mountain, which what makes the GCL South special as a league. What separates the school is how they go about getting to the pinnacle.
This pretty much hits the heart of the issue for all of the schools constantly whining about Moe.

What's ironic are the pleas from these schools that sports just aren't that important, which is hilarious. They would want nothing better than to be on top, and they know it. The ultimate sour grapes.
Sports are important at St. X, but not to the extent they are at Moe or even Elder to some extent. Most St. X and Moe fans will admit to that fact. St. X could do more to sell their athletic brand, but simply don't and it's a lil dismaying at times.
 
Going back as far as Gerry Faust (made recruiting an artform), Moe has always done it Moe's way. Is it whining or the truth? Moe fan gets awfully defensive when the obvious is stated and are in constant denial when they are winning and losing. Moe, St. X, Elder, and even LaSalle have all been atop of the mountain, which what makes the GCL South special as a league. What separates the school is how they go about getting to the pinnacle.

Sports are important at St. X, but not to the extent they are at Moe or even Elder to some extent. Most St. X and Moe fans will admit to that fact. St. X could do more to sell their athletic brand, but simply don't and it's a lil dismaying at times.
Look- Moeller fans were pretty quiet on what developed into a really special year despite a very disappointing ending- there was really no “look at us”” we are the best, you guys suck” stuff being thrown around all season. To have all of you guys come in after the season ended throwing doggie doodoo like test scores and “they recruit” (especially bringing up Faust in a negative way the week of his funeral) at Moeller just because we beat you on the field twice is incredibly weak. There were 16 pages of chatter on X FB site not including the weekly game chats- football in the GCL matters at all times even if other sports or academics are doing well. And yes it is whining- the truth is there was one incident in the past 5 years that was self reported by a coach that was new to the school and came from college where recruiting was a 365 24/7 operational so was unfamiliar. If that is all you got- we will see you next fall
 
Look- Moeller fans were pretty quiet on what developed into a really special year despite a very disappointing ending- there was really no “look at us”” we are the best, you guys suck” stuff being thrown around all season. To have all of you guys come in after the season ended throwing doggie doodoo like test scores and “they recruit” (especially bringing up Faust in a negative way the week of his funeral) at Moeller just because we beat you on the field twice is incredibly weak. There were 16 pages of chatter on X FB site not including the weekly game chats- football in the GCL matters at all times even if other sports or academics are doing well. And yes it is whining- the truth is there was one incident in the past 5 years that was self reported by a coach that was new to the school and came from college where recruiting was a 365 24/7 operational so was unfamiliar. If that is all you got- we will see you next fall
And I will add it hasn't been just football. They've had several special baseball and soccer seasons too, all with minimal fanfare and gloating.

They also don't make excuses when they lose. They take it like men.
 
Sports are important at St. X, but not to the extent they are at Moe or even Elder to some extent. Most St. X and Moe fans will admit to that fact. St. X could do more to sell their athletic brand, but simply don't and it's a lil dismaying at times.
Administration, parents, and alum of these schools may have different ways at looking at things as far their approach to athletics.

However, every GCL South game/match I have ever attended (or been a part of) says otherwise. Not one player (kid) on either side is thinking “it’s not that important”. And honestly, that’s how it should be—as long as when it’s over, they win or lose with class and move on. And I’d say 99.9% of the time kids do this.
 
And I will add it hasn't been just football. They've had several special baseball and soccer seasons too, all with minimal fanfare and gloating.

They also don't make excuses when they lose. They take it like men.
You are an absolute sweetie and have no idea what you are talking about. It hasn’t been that long ago that an assistant coach got into a fight with a parent at halftime in the stands
 
You are an absolute sweetie and have no idea what you are talking about. It hasn’t been that long ago that an assistant coach got into a fight with a parent at halftime in the stands
Funny, I heard a similar story about an Elder fan too.

Do you run across many Moe fans on here that are obnoxious? I don't. Honestly, they absolutely could be, but their boards are relatively calm without much fanfare. It typically only gets rowdy when an outsider comes in and stirs the pot.

Yes, I realize sometimes that person is me.
 
Funny, I heard a similar story about an Elder fan too.

Do you run across many Moe fans on here that are obnoxious? I don't. Honestly, they absolutely could be, but their boards are relatively calm without much fanfare. It typically only gets rowdy when an outsider comes in and stirs the pot.

Yes, I realize sometimes that person is me.
Correct. It was very similar to the Elder HS situation. It was a crazed, drunk, immature Moe alum, not a parent, who was involved with that incident. Still bad. 😕

Coach Elder was already dealing with a complete rebuild and COVID that year—a mess. But, he righted the ship in 2021.
 
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