USA Today rankings 12-03

 
consumerman said:
and x barely beat a team that lost 3 games

took hem 3 overtimes
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Byrnes beat Centerville 39 - 38, X beat Centeville 31 - 6 and was winning 31 - 0 at he half. X is likely more that 8 places better Byrnes. Xs' schedule is way tougher than Byrnes'. I'm not ripping Cali teams here because I think they're legit, but Byrnes is a fraud to me.
 
Fightingfor7crusader said:
Xs' starting and star RB was out many games, including Dematha and X still dominated. X had to replace their starting QB with a sophmore against Iggy.
I think there is at least 10 teams in Ohio alone that would beat Byrnes.
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hehe

when ohio teams travel 1000s of miles that would balance things out a little dont you think
 
consumerman said:
hehe

when ohio teams travel 1000s of miles that would balance things out a little dont you think
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Hmm I went to Australia last summer, and i didn't have jetleg or anything. If I can travel half way around the world and still be in my element then shouldn't other highschool kids traveling a fraction of that distance be able to as well. They didn't even have to leave their time zone to play in Ohio. The coaches of traveling teams should be able to ensure that their players are properly rested and prepared to travel. I'm confident that many Ohio teams could travel to NC and beat Byrnes. Traveling from Cali to Ohio is another story. Seriously though, do you think Byrnes is #13 material?

BTW Byrnes isn't over a thousand miles from Ohio let alone thousands
 
Chicago said:
I have never even heard of jetleg.

Is it serious?

Congratulations on your apparent immunity, though.
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lol.... touche. Although I think it's overrated. 24 hours at the destination is more than enough time to fix it.
 
"when ohio teams travel 1000s of miles that would balance things out a little dont you think" I think that it may come into play but I don't know that Ohio should be continually ripped on by you (consumerman) for hosting the biggest high school football event of the year. Ohio plays some of the best competition to get better and to see how they stack up, not to try to get a leg up in SOS and play at home. If you don't like that the teams from Ohio benefit from this then you are just bitter.

"and x barely beat a team that lost 3 games
took hem 3 overtimes" This awful team lost to the Ohio State Champion, Finalist
for two of their losses. And that is why St. X dropped in one poll. MNW beat SLC by one score (SLC is no longer ranked) so by your calculations MNW is overrated too. By continuing to repeat this you only sound ignorant, like this one game showed the ability of St. X. DLS's opponents are 4 games over .500, X's are 89 games over .500.
 
DLS's opponents are 4 games over .500, X's are 89 games over .500.

DLS beat Mission Viejo 35-7 on a 500 mile road trip

Mission Viejo beat an Ohio GCL Region 4 playoff team (that won an Ohio playoff game) on a 2000 mile road trip

On St X one road trip (what 250 miles?) they took three overtimes to beat a 3 loss team that previously lost by 17
 
fish82 said:
Not necessarily. An overnight trip is an overnight trip, which Ohio teams do routinely....both regular season and playoffs.
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When you find evidence of an Ohio team in the past 60 years traveling "to" Texas, Florida, California, Georgia, or Alabama, and playing a ranked or unranked team from either of those 5 states please kindly provide the names of the teams involved, date and year, and score please. :shrug:
 
Consumerman, I am glad you are having a good time over the loss by 16 to 18 year old kids from your favorite community in Texas. Your team has a great record. But in using the California systems - Calpreps, SLC played a more difficult schedule. SLC played the #50 (in which the human poll you referenced has as #1), the #120, #317 & #683 teams in the nation. There strength of schedule is 31.6. DLS the school you follow in cyberspace has a rating of 25.3 and has played the #276, #588 & #861 teams in the land. DLS had a shot at SLC in 2007 and declined the invite, so I am not sure which team is better.

By the way St as a schedule rating of 51.6. While I have read on numerous occasions your lack of respect of their schedule, they have played 5 teams rated in the top 100, 12 games with teams in the top 250 and all but one team rated in the top 1000. Please give St X the props the deserve and quit undermining the season they completed.

It is a horrible feeling to think your gut is rooting for a team to lose in California, but for your humility I hope it occurs.
 
Jesse said:
When you find evidence of an Ohio team in the past 60 years traveling "to" Texas, Florida, California, Georgia, or Alabama, and playing a ranked or unranked team from either of those 5 states please kindly provide the names of the teams involved, date and year, and score please. :shrug:
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Unfortunately, OHSAA Bylaws forbid it:

2) Out of State Travel
A football team may travel out of state to compete in contests (scrimmages, previews and
games) in states or provinces in Canada that are contiguous to Ohio regardless of distance
to travel. The states include Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Pennsylvania and West
Virginia. The province includes Ontario. Additionally, a football team may travel out of
state one time per sport per interscholastic season to compete in states or provinces in
Canada that are not contiguous to Ohio, provided there is no loss of school time.

So as long as this bylaw is in effect, Ohio teams will not be allowed to travel down south (or any state that is not contiguous) to play a game. To get a crack at us you have to come up here. Its kind of like the mentality of the SEC!
 
EaglePride01 said:
Unfortunately, OHSAA Bylaws forbid it:

2) Out of State Travel
A football team may travel out of state to compete in contests (scrimmages, previews and
games) in states or provinces in Canada that are contiguous to Ohio regardless of distance
to travel. The states include Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Pennsylvania and West
Virginia. The province includes Ontario. Additionally, a football team may travel out of
state one time per sport per interscholastic season to compete in states or provinces in
Canada that are not contiguous to Ohio, provided there is no loss of school time.

So as long as this bylaw is in effect, Ohio teams will not be allowed to travel down south (or any state that is not contiguous) to play a game. To get a crack at us you have to come up here. Its kind of like the mentality of the SEC!
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I just don't minimize the travel effect on high school kids.Evenly matched teams can usually count on a 7 pt advantage. At least that much for a HS game.
 
consumerman compensates for DLS's cupcake schedule this year by humping any potential fault he can find in X's season. Laughable.
 
Bordertown said:
Consumerman, I am glad you are having a good time over the loss by 16 to 18 year old kids from your favorite community in Texas. Your team has a great record. But in using the California systems - Calpreps, SLC played a more difficult schedule. SLC played the #50 (in which the human poll you referenced has as #1), the #120, #317 & #683 teams in the nation. There strength of schedule is 31.6. DLS the school you follow in cyberspace has a rating of 25.3 and has played the #276, #588 & #861 teams in the land. DLS had a shot at SLC in 2007 and declined the invite, so I am not sure which team is better.

By the way St as a schedule rating of 51.6. While I have read on numerous occasions your lack of respect of their schedule, they have played 5 teams rated in the top 100, 12 games with teams in the top 250 and all but one team rated in the top 1000. Please give St X the props the deserve and quit undermining the season they completed.

It is a horrible feeling to think your gut is rooting for a team to lose in California, but for your humility I hope it occurs.
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so answer the question

how do you rate a team in a human poll when they arent even regionally raned?
 
concha said:
consumerman compensates for DLS's cupcake schedule this year by humping any potential fault he can find in X's season. Laughable.
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the fault is miniscule

for those of you with short term memory loss or lack of reading comprehension and/or those named concha...

I have posted on this board that 2007 st x is as desrving of a number 1 ranking as any team any year

concah you responded to that post so I ASSUME you read it

and quit using the word hump, it sends chills over most non-gay men
 
Jesse said:
I just don't minimize the travel effect on high school kids.Evenly matched teams can usually count on a 7 pt advantage. At least that much for a HS game.
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And your professional bookmaker friends (who handicap HS football) have confirmed that number?
 
$T.x said:
Moeller won that game technically, but lost by four on the field...

Against X they got owned, there really was no point in the game was in question...

You bring up Ignatius all the time...:rolleyes:...ever just think:

a. Gee, maybe they were good
b. X's QB was a frosh and inexperienced

??????????????
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Agreed.

While Ignatius is certainly nothing close to the 90s version, the Wildcats are still a tough opponent. It's not like St X barely beat a Cleveland Senate League school.

Remember the 90s??? When Ignatius wanted to play De LaSalle and the Spartans wouldn't do it?
 
consumerman said:
so answer the question

how do you rate a team in a human poll when they arent even regionally raned?
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They weren't ranked. So what is your point? I point out SLC is no longer ranked? That is how I read your post. They lost to two teams ranked higher than anyone DLS has played and they lost their QB in the 2nd quarter. At that level of play, I suspect almost any team including DLS would have issues with "timing" on their offense.
 
Is that Ohio travel rule just for high schools, or does it count for colleges, too?

I was wondering why OSU played Youngstown State, Akron, and Kent State.

My apologies to UncleBaldy for the college crossover.
 
fish82 said:
And your professional bookmaker friends (who handicap HS football) have confirmed that number?
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You and I both know handicapping hs games does happen in some locales much as "policy" still exists in inner cities in spite of state lotteries.
Danny Sheridan was asked a "hypothetical" question several years ago about home field advantage in hs games.His quite serious answer was "10 pts, maybe more".
 
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