BigPSH
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I would bet there is more non-scholarship lower division players now than in the 90's/00's. But I do think economics of this area has changed since that timeframe, so that may be the answer.
Three teams drop out to avoid playing Marion Local in playoffs…
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Stirred not Shaken
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For Marion Local it has stayed the same over the years very few. The late Dan Thobe maybe had the most successful college career of any Flyer playing for UD in the early 90's. When he left UD, I believe he was the all-time interception leader at UD.
Footballstump
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If Marion Local is as good as they think they are as a program, then schedule up week 2 next season. According to the OHSAA website, here are the teams that are still open week 2.
School - Division - Record in 2024
Field (D4) 8-2
Hilliard Davidson (D1) 6-4
Bishop Watterson (D3) 10-0
Springfield (D1) 6-4
Avon Lake (D2) 6-4
Marysville (D1) 3-7
Canfield (D3) 4-5 (did not make the playoffs)
School - Division - Record in 2024
Field (D4) 8-2
Hilliard Davidson (D1) 6-4
Bishop Watterson (D3) 10-0
Springfield (D1) 6-4
Avon Lake (D2) 6-4
Marysville (D1) 3-7
Canfield (D3) 4-5 (did not make the playoffs)
CC Track Fan
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That is apparently what college coaches think since 12% of the population is getting 70+% of the scholarships. I have no problem with that I was just answering the question with one of the reasons why the MAC is not having big time college recruits.
It seems you are not one that does not like to talk about facts and more of a feelings/emotions type of person.
State2013-1
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Week 2 has already been filled
StateChampion2012
MAC Homer
Who's all open week 1 for them to schedule up
Footballstump
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So who did the mighty flyers land for week 2?
You are embarrassing yourself, please stop. Upper divisions have more D1 prospects than lower divisions due to simple math. You injected race into it and now play the victim. There is no bias against white kids in the MAC. Talent is talent, that is all recruiters look for, deal with it.
MilkAthletesCorn
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It's not ML saying that! That's others saying we shouldn't be D7 because of our success. We land every year in the division we land. We don't make or influence the rules. We just had another D3 program (St.Mary's region 12) back out on us for week 1. They are an adjacent school with a good program and football tradition that we were very excited about matching up with.
State2013-1
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The mighty Flyers you speak of have Crestview week 2. Scheduled it before this season. Had St Marys for week 1 but they backed out so back to the drawing board
Footballstump
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Upper Arlington (D1) 8-2
Hilliard Davidson (D1) 6-4
Mason (D1) 5-5
Cincinnati Oak Hills (D1) 4-6
London (D3) 10-0
Mentor (D1) 10-0
Footballstump
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Ashland Crestview? The Cougars haven't been good in awhile. Way to step your strength of schedule up LOL
Footballstump
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It absolutely is ML faithful saying that, or at least commenting and posting about it here in the world of Yappi.
SidneyHigh
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It's Convoy Crestview. They had a decent run recently but have fallen off it looks like.
State2013-1
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No Convoy Crestview. You sound and look like a guy that grew to be 5 feet tall and couldn't join your local varsity football team let alone flag football team. Move along little boy
Footballstump
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Ooooof - they are a few steps below Ashland Crestview. Cant claim to be what you claim to be until you test yourselves.
State2013-1
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Nope it's definitely us ML faithful saying we would rather be in D6 with Kirtland than in 7 where aside from Minster this year there is usually 0 resistance.
Footballstump
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Ha! It’s all about leverage. My 5 foot status came in handy back in my playing days for team Grayskull.
Regardless - ML faithful talk a lot for a program that continues to be the biggest fish in a small pond. I would have absolutely no issue with the ML faithful if they just claimed to be the best small school in Ohio. That conversation has much more credibility and few programs that can challenege that notion (Glenville and Kirkland are the only schools that come to mind). But when some of your faithful run their mouths about being one of the best in Ohio regardless of division - that’s just foolishness. Stay in your lane little boys. lol
Footballstump
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That is a reasonable take, but not one I have seen from others in your camp.
State2013-1
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I wouldn't be calling anyone a little boy when you call yourself a literal stump. The fact of the matter is we're the best at what we do and that can't even be challenged. We play same size competition as us. Same as D1 but the last time I checked we're the only one with 14 titles.
Go back to your grandmas basement where you belong because your own mother probably doesn't even want you there.
State2013-1
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I've yet to see an ML supporter saying we should be in a Division higher than 5. There's a difference between beating a D4 opponent than running the table in their playoffs. Heck Celina nearly ran the entire table in the D3 playoffs last year and ML is definitely better than Celina.
OHFootballGURU
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These are dumb argument both ways. Look the the truth is the schools in this area are all awesome. They are that way because they have rosters full of kids who can play D2/D3 college football and occasionally have a D1 study(Ross Homan, Bobby Hoying, Todd Boekman, Keith Wenning) on a consistent basis. Their rosters are typically overwhelming to most of the competition they pay(To no fault of their own, they just have consistent communities with good genes). Look a roster of low college kids typically beats a roster with one D1 type guy with only a few college kids because they can exploit your weakness because they are complete teams. Usually it starts with physicality, However, they can go to the air if they need to. So to answer the original question, no D1 coach is ignoring these places. They are just full of D2,D3 guys for the most part year after year. That is more than most average size to small schools and thus they are dominant. You could move them up sure but they are just playing by the rules. Their communities are at a consistent standard. It's on other communities to figure out how to match it. Little schools like Hardin Northern were able to do it once upon a time. Other have the capability to do it too.
Stirred not Shaken
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Posters think it is so easy to schedule. New Bremen had to drive 3.5 hrs. for a game. St. Henry drove to 3.5 hrs. to play fort Frye several years ago now have series with Archbold 2.5 drive, Coldwater 2 hrs to Clinton Massie. Scheduling isn't easy.
Nobody from ML is saying that stumpy, any proof?
Interesting. Schools normally complete forms to avoid a CB addition. Seems plausible that one could simply not partake in that time consuming administrative task. And what is the purpose for like 90% of D1's to go through all that hassle???
Of course it would be easier to just get rid of CB altogether. Then ML would be D6 organically. And poor little D6 Miami Valley Christian with 70 kids would be D7. It's a joke.
MilkAthletesCorn
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My point was that ML wouldn't care if we were D6! The same CB that put ML in D7 also put other schools there too. The D1 schools being shown are great programs! I would be very surprised if a game would get scheduled and not because of fear of losing. Coaches generally want non conference games that prepare their teams for league play. I highly doubt you'll see "I formation" student body sweeps in the juggernaut leagues they are in.
I don't disagree with any of that. Simply responding to his specific post.
We all know a team can have 1 or 2 D1 guys and still stink, we see it all the time.
Burreaux
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I suppose a good question is what do you call this beverage
Bruce Monnin
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mtn? mutton dew?
Burreaux
Mr. SEO
more or less asking is it pop or soda