STOP paying people not to work - NOW!!

My fault. You were talking specifically about just the place where you work.

I thought the "we" referred to the American workforce, which is obviously way too broad.
Yep, I can see where you could get that from what I originally typed. Nope, Just giving personal accounts. No one in my family or that I know is not working because of the Pandemic. I know there are people out there hurting, but my company thrived and everyone I know is out there earning a living.
 
Yep, I can see where you could get that from what I originally typed. Nope, Just giving personal accounts. No one in my family or that I know is not working because of the Pandemic. I know there are people out there hurting, but my company thrived and everyone I know is out there earning a living.
I lost several weeks of work at my part time job with the schools, but I'm retired and didn't look to replace those $$$'s. I went back to work when the kids went back.

My youngest sister started a new advertising job at a small firm just before the covid shutdown. They lost a lot of business, but kept her on for as long as they could. It took her a little while to find a job back in her field. She did something else for a while.

Like you, everyone else I know has been working right along and some been very busy.

The same was true during the Great Depression. Even when the national unemployment rate was over 25% some industries were booming.
 
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"Look Trailers, based in Middlebury, Indiana." My brother lives in Middlebury. I'm not even sure of the Company he works for anymore because they have been bought and sold many times. ABTCO was the last I knew. He has worked at the same plant for 37 years. It's Amish / Mennonite country out there. They have had a bad time for years getting younger workers. No one from the community works there anymore. It has nothing to do with what the government is doing. It has to do with what kinds of jobs people want. The parents that work the factory jobs in Middlebury don't want their kids doing that work, or the kids don't want to do that work. Trending that way for years.

Also, like I said before, the companies there get bought and sold and people get displaced so much that it's unstable and kids and parents see that too. Don't work in this industry because as soon as you help the company be successful, they sell to a larger corporation and they get rid of half of us.

My brother is lucky enough to have always survived. He has been the head plant engineer 37 years. Graduated from Akron U. Offered a job. Moved one week later and has been there since. Only worker still with a pension/ retirement. Completely different package for new employees from when he started. Terrible benefits compared to 20 years ago. Bottom line controls everything. Not a close nit family anymore. Just workers.

I'm not sure that the Pandemic has exposed weaknesses that were already there that need addressed. New ways of doing business.
 
Yep, I can see where you could get that from what I originally typed. Nope, Just giving personal accounts. No one in my family or that I know is not working because of the Pandemic. I know there are people out there hurting, but my company thrived and everyone I know is out there earning a living.

Some businesses and people not only kept working or thrived but made BIG dough and the pandemic has generated a boom time period for them. Other people and industry's? Not so much .
 
I lost several weeks of work at my part time job with the schools, but I'm retired and didn't look to replace those $$$'s. I went back to work when the kids went back.

My youngest sister started a new advertising job at a small firm just before the covid shutdown. They lost a lot of business, but kept her on for as long as they could. It took her a little while to find a job back in her field. She did something else for a while.

Like you, everyone else I know has been working right along and some been very busy.

The same was true during the Great Depression. Even when the national unemployment rate was over 25% some industries were booming.
Some businesses and people not only kept working or thrived but made BIG dough and the pandemic has generated a boom time period for them. Other people and industry's? Not so much .
This is where we need to stop the Democrat and Republican garbage and start working together to make things better for everyone. Restaurant workers and others deserve to be helped out. My company is way better off.
 
Demand is outpacing supply and it is because supply is hampered by government interference in the labor market. We are headed for a serious dose of inflation, not just because of the egregious printing of money, but because supply is being limited due to the government's policy of paying people handsomely NOT to work.

Buckle up.
 
Restaurant workers and others deserve to be helped out.
Delivery services have really impacted this space (i.e. DoorDash, Uber Eats, Grubhub, etc.). They were able to thrive during the lockdowns, as restaurants often depended upon them to keep the lights on. And they also allowed folks that lost jobs or were furloughed to make some quick cash on their own schedules. And for those who lost income, these jobs were a slick way to make some extra coin on the side. Folks have now grown more accustomed to these deliveries, as they've taken a larger stake in the market over the course of 2020. It will be interesting to see how this impacts retail workers moving forward. Some of these services now offer grocery, pharmacy and even liquor store pick up and delivery.
 
Delivery services have really impacted this space (i.e. DoorDash, Uber Eats, Grubhub, etc.). They were able to thrive during the lockdowns, as restaurants often depended upon them to keep the lights on. And they also allowed folks that lost jobs or were furloughed to make some quick cash on their own schedules. And for those who lost income, these jobs were a slick way to make some extra coin on the side. Folks have now grown more accustomed to these deliveries, as they've taken a larger stake in the market over the course of 2020. It will be interesting to see how this impacts retail workers moving forward. Some of these services now offer grocery, pharmacy and even liquor store pick up and delivery.
I agree. A lot of things have changed and that might be a good thing.
 
  • There were 538,000 manufacturing job openings in February. Overall, these data offer an encouraging sign that manufacturers are confident enough about the coming months to post new jobs.
  • In the larger economy, there were 7,367,000 nonfarm business job openings in February, the best reading since January 2019. That translated to 1.35 unemployed workers for every one job opening in the U.S. economy, down from 1.43 in January.





STOP paying people not to work!
 
The Curious Case of Hard-to-Find Workers - Bloomberg
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Mar 17, 2021 — A record-high share of small businesses report trouble filling jobs. ... I hope someone will ask: How hard is it for businesses to find employees? ... Signs of tightness in the labor market, while not definitive, can't be ignored.


Do enhanced unemployment benefits make it harder to hire ...
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3 days ago — So it can't be surprising that the news landscape is getting filled with stories about businesses that can't find workers because everyone's ...


Millions Are Out Of A Job. Yet Some Employers Wonder: Why ...
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Feb 15, 2021 — Some businesses are struggling to find workers even as millions are ... Yet Some Employers Wonder: Why Can't I Find Workers?02:58. Play.

Businesses are struggling to find employees to fill open jobs
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Apr 14, 2021 — Across the board multiple local companies, temp agencies and corporations have a problem, finding employees. The big question is, why? Marc ...


Companies struggle to hire employees | The Blade
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Apr 11, 2021 — Mr. Egan said he knows a business owner who has complained he can't find workers to hire. “But he said, 'I know if I paid more I could get ...





Unemployment comp needs to end now; there are 8 million job openings available today. BIG government is destroying small business prospects.
 
I still see numerous now hiring signs everywhere around my area in NE Ohio, but most recent statistics show that our unemployment rate is at or below where it was before the pandemic began. So, what happened? Unemployment numbers here are hovering around 4-5% which has been the acceptable number for quite some time, so why the outrage now and why so many openings? I am not being sarcastic, but genuinely asking those who know more than I do about this.
 
We are paying millions of people not to work, while at the same time we have millions of job openings. U/C benefits should not have been extended to September, only socialist politicians would promote such ignorant policy.
 
We are paying millions of people not to work, while at the same time we have millions of job openings. U/C benefits should not have been extended to September, only socialist politicians would promote such ignorant policy.

This is pretty accurate. The socialist politicians who approved such an ignorant policy were put into/kept in office by the Voters. Simply can’t take away someone’s Vote just because that person doesn’t think like other Voters though.
 
If you aren't a conservative you must be a socialist.{ smh} This reality isn't an easy one to figure out certainly. What I do know is that many have always been pre-occupied with worrying about others getting things they don't feel they deserve to. People getting over.Poor people may be getting a little too much assistance . Minimum wage should be kept as low as possible because we can't have anyone getting a bit more than we feel they 'Deserve" ? This article isn't about people NOT WORKING but the principle of why it upsets certain people much more is interesting .


It's as if their ethical code thinks it morally wrong to pay people more than they think their lower level ability entitles them to earn. Does someone getting more than you think they deserve affect your life in any meaninguful way/ Or does it just make you angry? Why ? Why do people care what's in other people's wallets?

Unworthy people getting things they don't deserve . I think the term I've seen is 'other wallet worriers " .
They see people getting things they don't feel they deserve as a perversion of the 'natural order of things.

It's an attack on how these people feel the world 'should" work.
Conservatives will give you all kinds of reasons for hating the idea of the minimum wage being set at a living wage, but underneath all of them is their emotional, moral conviction that poor people just don’t deserve to be paid that much money, that they don’t deserve to earn a living wage, and, if they say what they’re really thinking, the conservative will tell you that it’s unfair/wrong for them to be paid more than their crappy labor is really worth.

The conservatives’ unhappiness is primarily based on their moral notion that these are loser people who don’t deserve to be paid that much money.
 
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If you aren't a conservative you must be a socialist.{ smh} This reality isn't an easy one to figure out certainly. What I do know is that many have always been pre-occupied with worrying about others getting things they don't feel they deserve to. People getting over.Porr people may be getting a littel too much assistance . Minimum wage should be kep as low as possible because we can't have anyone getting a bit more than we feel they 'Deserve" ? This article isn't about people NOT WORKING but the principle of why it upsets certain people much more is interesting .


It's as if their ethical code thinks it morally wrong to pay people more than they think their lower level ability entitles them to earn. Does someone getting more than you think they deserve affect your life in any meaninguful way/ Or does it just make you angry? Why ? Why do people care what's in other people's wallets?

Unworthy people getting things they don't deserve . I think the term I've seen is 'other wallet worriers " .
They see people getting things they don't feel they deserve as a perversion of the 'natural order of things.

It's an attack on how these people feel the world 'should" work.
Conservatives will give you all kinds of reasons for hating the idea of the minimum wage being set at a living wage, but underneath all of them is their emotional, moral conviction that poor people just don’t deserve to be paid that much money, that they don’t deserve to earn a living wage, and, if they say what they’re really thinking, the conservative will tell you that it’s unfair/wrong for them to be paid more than their crappy labor is really worth.

The conservatives’ unhappiness is primarily based on their moral notion that these are loser people who don’t deserve to be paid that much money.
Who are these "Porr" people and why are they getting a "littel" too much assistance?
 
I still see numerous now hiring signs everywhere around my area in NE Ohio, but most recent statistics show that our unemployment rate is at or below where it was before the pandemic began. So, what happened? Unemployment numbers here are hovering around 4-5% which has been the acceptable number for quite some time, so why the outrage now and why so many openings? I am not being sarcastic, but genuinely asking those who know more than I do about this.

Most of Ohio is at or near full employment. That makes it hard to grow and find people. If you are an employee, hopefully this eventually drives wages up. If you are an employer, hopefully they find a way keep wages artificially low and convince government to subsidize their payrolls with additional welfare, AND find workers. But I don't think that is going to work very well. Not very dignifying.
 
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Don't entirely agree with this persons perspective , but it will get some of the EC a bit more anrgy than they already are . Always at least somewhat fun .

 
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A recent study found that 37% of people in the United states make more money not working than working today. Cato institute study.

Interesting. Can you post that link? In Ohio the maximum (not average) unemployment is $480, w/ some additional depending on number of dependents. 37% make under that??? That is pitiful for a country like the US.
 
If you aren't a conservative you must be a socialist.{ smh} This reality isn't an easy one to figure out certainly. What I do know is that many have always been pre-occupied with worrying about others getting things they don't feel they deserve to. People getting over.Poor people may be getting a little too much assistance . Minimum wage should be kept as low as possible because we can't have anyone getting a bit more than we feel they 'Deserve" ? This article isn't about people NOT WORKING but the principle of why it upsets certain people much more is interesting .


It's as if their ethical code thinks it morally wrong to pay people more than they think their lower level ability entitles them to earn. Does someone getting more than you think they deserve affect your life in any meaninguful way/ Or does it just make you angry? Why ? Why do people care what's in other people's wallets?

Unworthy people getting things they don't deserve . I think the term I've seen is 'other wallet worriers " .
They see people getting things they don't feel they deserve as a perversion of the 'natural order of things.

It's an attack on how these people feel the world 'should" work.
Conservatives will give you all kinds of reasons for hating the idea of the minimum wage being set at a living wage, but underneath all of them is their emotional, moral conviction that poor people just don’t deserve to be paid that much money, that they don’t deserve to earn a living wage, and, if they say what they’re really thinking, the conservative will tell you that it’s unfair/wrong for them to be paid more than their crappy labor is really worth.

The conservatives’ unhappiness is primarily based on their moral notion that these are loser people who don’t deserve to be paid that much money.
Wow. I have read a lot of BS before. This might be the champion though. Nice work.
 
If you aren't a conservative you must be a socialist.{ smh} This reality isn't an easy one to figure out certainly. What I do know is that many have always been pre-occupied with worrying about others getting things they don't feel they deserve to. People getting over.Poor people may be getting a little too much assistance . Minimum wage should be kept as low as possible because we can't have anyone getting a bit more than we feel they 'Deserve" ? This article isn't about people NOT WORKING but the principle of why it upsets certain people much more is interesting .


It's as if their ethical code thinks it morally wrong to pay people more than they think their lower level ability entitles them to earn. Does someone getting more than you think they deserve affect your life in any meaninguful way/ Or does it just make you angry? Why ? Why do people care what's in other people's wallets?

Unworthy people getting things they don't deserve . I think the term I've seen is 'other wallet worriers " .
They see people getting things they don't feel they deserve as a perversion of the 'natural order of things.

It's an attack on how these people feel the world 'should" work.
Conservatives will give you all kinds of reasons for hating the idea of the minimum wage being set at a living wage, but underneath all of them is their emotional, moral conviction that poor people just don’t deserve to be paid that much money, that they don’t deserve to earn a living wage, and, if they say what they’re really thinking, the conservative will tell you that it’s unfair/wrong for them to be paid more than their crappy labor is really worth.

The conservatives’ unhappiness is primarily based on their moral notion that these are loser people who don’t deserve to be paid that much money.




Your (Marxist) rant has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.
 
[TD]Supply Shortages, Too Few Workers Threaten Manufacturing's Recovery[/TD]




[TD]U.S. manufacturing activity slowed in April, falling from its recent 37-year high due to shortages of supplies and labor, according to the Institute for Supply Management's (ISM) latest report. Still, the index indicated solid growth with all 18 major manufacturing sectors reporting expansion -- the first time that has happened since 2014.

Meanwhile, the IHS Markit Flash U.S. Manufacturing report indicated that manufacturing activity expanded at a record pace last month.

Despite the strong demand, supply chain disruptions, "crazy" prices for inputs, and exacerbated labor shortages pose a threat to the recovery, as reported by MarketWatch. 5/4/2021[/TD]
 
Don't entirely agree with this persons perspective , but it will get some of the EC a bit more anrgy than they already are . Always at least somewhat fun .

"Yes, sweetie, your mommy is correct. There are people much worse than conservatives, they are called liberals. I'm a liberal, and one day I hope you can be a liberal. And we will complain we are poor but we will have the hard working conservatives who pay taxes so we can suck off the great American teat."

A paragraph that got cut from the article before it was printed.
 
Interesting. Can you post that link? In Ohio the maximum (not average) unemployment is $480, w/ some additional depending on number of dependents. 37% make under that??? That is pitiful for a country like the US.
Cant get your point?

Are you saying its pitiful some make more on unemployment than they do working?
 
$15 hourly jobs are everywhere. If you can show up everyday, work at a good pace and lead you are $30.00. Try finding those individuals. I guess 1:25 ratio is close. Sky is the limit for motivated individuals. Driving a rig can be 6 figures. No drugs though and there goes the neighborhood.
 
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