That is the current projection from calpreps' computer. The computer also still projects a four-point win for SLC over MNW. Miami BTW is favored 28-22 over the Summerville team they destroyed by 33 on ESPN, and Jax First Coast is a 12-point dog to the Berkeley team they beat on ESPNU. Nice to see the computer getting more "accurate" as the season goes on.
St. Xavier 38, Miami Northwestern 12
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I do not cite calpreps as absolute proof of anything, but national pollsters (ex. Jamie DeMoney of PrepNation, Kevin Armstrong of SI, Risemag) tend to agree on the difficulty of schedules like St. X's as being amongst the most difficult in the nation. Humans and computer agree.
Playing in Cincy, in Ohio D1, and playing out-of-state powers will do that.
Correct me if I am wrong, but all of those guys have MNW #1 and St. X #2-5.
So what do the computers and pollsters agree on?
http://calpreps.com/cgi-bin/2007/polls_view.pl?poll=compilation&week=11%2F12&submit=submit
pied,
What are you talking about?
I am simply saying that calpreps and the pollsters agree that X has one of the toughest schedules in the country. Do you have info to the contrary?
I thought you were referring to the Calpreps outcome not the SOS. oops
consumerman
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what is the prediciton for a st x - st ig game
a game in real life it took st x overtimes to squeak out a 3 point win
a game in real life it took st x overtimes to squeak out a 3 point win
consumerman
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like I said and have been saying, ST X really UNDERPERFORMED that game
Hey, you may be right.
Calpreps has 8-3 in Ohio St. Ignatius ranked higher than all but 7 teams in California. I doubt there are that many, but I'll throw you a bone.
consumerman
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RXlandfill
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didnt X lose their QB that game?
They lost him the game before, against St. Edward in the first quarter of a 45-0 victory. Iggy was the next game and Luke Massa's first start.
Hot off the presses...
HIGH SCHOOL REPORT
Mission Viejo to forfeit two games for ineligible player
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'Something slipped through the cracks,' Diablos football Coach Bob Johnson says in response to Southern Section office ruling.
From Times Staff Reports
November 15, 2007
Mission Viejo, which is experiencing its least successful season this decade, was thrown for another loss Wednesday when it was announced by the Southern Section office that the Diablos would forfeit their first two football games of the season for using an ineligible player.
Mission Viejo will forfeit its 26-22 victory over host Cincinnati (Ohio) Moeller on Sept. 1 and a 34-14 victory over Redondo the next weekend.
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The player was not a starter.
"I play the kids I'm told to play that are legal," Diablos Coach Bob Johnson said. "Something slipped through the cracks."
Mission Viejo, which failed to win the South Coast League title this season after winning seven in a row, and lost a league game for the first time in 39 games -- a span dating to 1999 -- has a revised overall record of 4-5-1. Redondo is now 7-3 and Moeller is 8-3.
The forfeits do not affect Mission Viejo's playoff status because they did not affect the team's league standing. By tying for second place behind Rancho Santa Margarita Tesoro, the Diablos received one of three automatic qualifying berths from the league. Mission Viejo plays Orange Lutheran in a Pac-5 Division first-round game Friday at Santa Ana Stadium.
-- Martin Henderson
HIGH SCHOOL REPORT
Mission Viejo to forfeit two games for ineligible player
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'Something slipped through the cracks,' Diablos football Coach Bob Johnson says in response to Southern Section office ruling.
From Times Staff Reports
November 15, 2007
Mission Viejo, which is experiencing its least successful season this decade, was thrown for another loss Wednesday when it was announced by the Southern Section office that the Diablos would forfeit their first two football games of the season for using an ineligible player.
Mission Viejo will forfeit its 26-22 victory over host Cincinnati (Ohio) Moeller on Sept. 1 and a 34-14 victory over Redondo the next weekend.
Bob Johnson
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The player was not a starter.
"I play the kids I'm told to play that are legal," Diablos Coach Bob Johnson said. "Something slipped through the cracks."
Mission Viejo, which failed to win the South Coast League title this season after winning seven in a row, and lost a league game for the first time in 39 games -- a span dating to 1999 -- has a revised overall record of 4-5-1. Redondo is now 7-3 and Moeller is 8-3.
The forfeits do not affect Mission Viejo's playoff status because they did not affect the team's league standing. By tying for second place behind Rancho Santa Margarita Tesoro, the Diablos received one of three automatic qualifying berths from the league. Mission Viejo plays Orange Lutheran in a Pac-5 Division first-round game Friday at Santa Ana Stadium.
-- Martin Henderson
BobcatBomber
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I think we'll be able to anwer this question better after tomorrow night. If St. X can handle Colerain's athletes, then maybe we can give greater weight to this "prediction". :dang:
No, I don't think what happens against Colerain tells us much of anything about how X would fare against MNW. Just having a decent amount of black guys on the team is no way to justify saying Colerain is close to equal to MNW. Colerain does not have the talent MWN does. Most significantly, with a backup QB, they have nowhere near the style of offense MNW does. MNW will spread the feild and throw the ball with a 4-star QB. Colerain is going to run, run, run with a backup QB throwing rarely. Totally different deal. I believe X played a team that spread the field and threw a lot with a solid QB earlier this year. How did the D fair that game?
BobcatBomber
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They struggled the first half, but made adjustments that basically shut them down the second half. That's been a strength of X's all season.
And I wasn't referring to "black guys" = MNW athletically...I was saying that if X can beat Colerain, then the discussion can continue. Should X lose, well, there's no reason to debate the subject.
And I wasn't referring to "black guys" = MNW athletically...I was saying that if X can beat Colerain, then the discussion can continue. Should X lose, well, there's no reason to debate the subject.
BobcatBomber
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From the limited info I have on MNW (seen and heard), yes, they are very different teams.
Like you said, the closest thing we have to compare with is the Louisville Trinity game earlier this season.
consumerman
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based on (sorry) St X 2006 loss to Lakeland, who most agree is an inferior team to 2007 MNW and the fact that St X has a problem at QB due to injuries, I believe the game could be very competitive, with St X possibly winning with the breaks going their way (and I am not talking about those cryababy radio announcers who complained FOUR times in the first quarter alone about the officiating vs, Elder) however there seems little to suggest St X would win by more than 3-9, more to suggest MNW would win by 3-9 and NOTHING to remotely suggest ST X would win 38-12
BobcatBomber
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Agree completely. A single-digit win from either squad I would accept, but to say either team could win by that margin seems foolish to me. If anything, I'd say the team with the most potential for that MOV would be MNW because their spread offense matches favorably with one of the few weaknesses of this St. X defense.
D-Swizzel102
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I'm a St. X guy, and I believe a match-up between X and MNW would resemble the Lakeland game from last season very greatly.
RidgePride
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I seriously doubt it. MNW is not one dimensional as Lakeland is. I know SLC handles all one dimensional teams with relative ease.
MNW ability to mix it up would give ST. X fits too. I personally think ST. X loses the game by a 10-14 point margin with a healthy QB.
1) Letting homer radio announcers get to you this badly is silly. Let it go. Heck, maybe they had cause to comment!
2) X's new QB seems to be settling in nicely. He's completed nearly 70% of his passes and had 7 TDs to just one INT. His pass rating is 183.5. I'd like the seasoned senior back, but this kid isn't exactly crippling the offense.
3) Since the Trinity game, X has made adjustments to for better pass defense. FYI, they pounded Trinity 37-14 in the 2nd half.
If X and MNW played prior to X addressing its pass defense issues (which means without star RB Ashley also), I would say MNW is a clear favorite.
Now? One heckuva game. In fact, given that X's star players are now seniors, I'd say the talent and experience gap that X faced versus Lakeland would be REDUCED versus MNW.
Now? One heckuva game. In fact, given that X's star players are now seniors, I'd say the talent and experience gap that X faced versus Lakeland would be REDUCED versus MNW.
Oh lord. Lakeland WAS one dimensional last year, not as a rule. Are you suggesting SLC would have handled Lakeland with relative ease? LOL.
It is true that MNW matches up better with X then Lakeland did. Because of the different style of offense as compared to 2006 Lakeland, MNW would likely fare better than Lakeland did. MNW is faster than that Lakeland team though not as precise execution or coaching wise.