In the NCAA 3 to 7 is generally considered the HFA spread. Book is not legally made on HS games but Danny Sheridan quoted 7-10 pt in answer to a hypothetical question several years back.
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St. Xavier 38, Miami Northwestern 12
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Your first sentence demonstrates incontrovertibly, that you still retain a slender hope of shedding the frailties of mere mortals.:angel: Keep your chin up.Both of them
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Lowndes has a standing $15,000 offer.Lets keep families out of this.As for Rabid,he's the old fellow who prompted you to check into the mental health ward at Crawford Long back in 01 after a particularly racous debate you lost on PGN.Hurry over to Rite-Aid and fill that script or your bar privledges will be revoked!
Lowndes will win AAAAA, Northside could probably still beat them, and Harrison is not a slouch team.Georgia Varsity Sports Vent! Scout not Rivals.
http://www.ghsfha.org/ Is there a site you know of as comphrensive as this detailing the history of HS ball in any state? Just curious, not a bee in your bonnet.:shrug:
http://www.ghsfha.org/ This site has every state score from 1948 through last night. In the forums there is a header "Atlanta City League". Boys High and Tech High traversed the nation east of the Missisippi River from the 1930's through 1946 playing and beating teams from PA, NJ,NY,MA,VA,MZ,AR,IL, KY,and of course FL,SC,NC,TN, MS,AL. Those two schools were split into approx 8 schools following the 1946 season.http://ghsfha.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=357 But they were truely "Road Kings" each playing as many as 5 out of state teams per year.From 1933-1946 Miami High's only losses were either to Boys High,Tech High or Richmond Academy. The Boys High -Miami High usually determined the "Southern" champion. They met 13 times. Miami high won 6, Boys High won 5, and there were 2 ties.points scored Miami High 146,
Boys High 136. Average ppg Miami 11.2, Boys 10.4. And 10 of those 13 games were played in the Orange Bowl. If any state has as comprehensive of a site detailing their states HS football history I haven't located it. Our record against OOS comp is second to none.And can be proved!Enjoy the site.Sorry no smack board, just history backed by credible sources.http://www.georgiatrend.com/features-sports-leisure/ray-chaney.shtml Tech High alumni for years claimed they won the series.Seems selective amnesia caused the Smithies to omit a few games.See the URL below topic #441 for the real dope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Front_of_Grady.jpg Home of the once mighty Boys Highhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Grady_E_Building.jpg
http://www.sbcharch.com/C6_d.html old Tech High just around the corner from Boys, now apts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponce_de_Leon_Park
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grady_Stadium
Some great players strapped it on at these two stadiums.Capacity for Grady is officially 15,000
http://www.columbusga.org/parks/park_sites/SC.htm#MS This isn't a bad "little" hs stadium either.UGA-Auburn played here 42 times.Notice in the 1960 pic the endzone seats now removed.Capacity was 35,000.Now 22,500
http://ghsfha.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=441
Q&A with Chelsea Clinton:
Q-What are the three most dangerous threats facing America today?
CC- I really am not certain.
Q- I hear they are Osama, Obama, and Yo Mama.
CC- Thanks for the tip.
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X's schedule is probably tougher than DLS's in most years, especially now with the Herbie and Colerain's rise nationally:
This year X's schedule is easily tougher.
Last year X's opponents had a superior record (though not by a landslide like this year) and faced Lakeland and Colerain.
In '05 X's opponents went 124-39 (exclusive of losses to X). DLS's were 90-47 (excl. DLS games).
In '04 X's opponents were only 82-43. DLS's were something like 107-34 with games versus MV and Bellevue.
In 2003, DLS's opponents were 97-41. X's were 61-36.
That's all I have. I'd give three straight for X and the prior two to DLS.
Lowndes has a standing $15,000 offer.Lets keep families out of this.As for Rabid,he's the old fellow who prompted you to check into the mental health ward at Crawford Long back in 01 after a particularly racous debate you lost on PGN. [My Alzheimer's is apparently keeping me from recalling this ancient debate. Please understand my doubts as to your objectivity in determining a debate winner.
Georgia Varsity Sports Vent! Scout not Rivals.
http://www.ghsfha.org/ Is there a site you know of as comphrensive as this detailing the history of HS ball in any state? Just curious, not a bee in your bonnet.:shrug:
http://www.ghsfha.org/ This site has every state score from 1948 through last night. In the forums there is a header "Atlanta City League". Boys High and Tech High traversed the nation east of the Missisippi River from the 1930's through 1946 playing and beating teams from PA, NJ,NY,MA,VA,MZ,AR,IL, KY,and of course FL,SC,NC,TN, MS,AL. Those two schools were split into approx 8 schools following the 1946 season. But they were truely "Road Kings" each playing as many as 5 out of state teams per year.From 1933-1946 Miami High's only losses were either to Boys High,Tech High or Richmond Academy. The Boys High -Miami High usually determined the "Southern" champion. They met 13 times. Miami high won 6, Boys High won 5, and there were 2 ties.points scored Miami High 146,
Boys High 136. Average ppg Miami 11.2, Boys 10.4. And 10 of those 13 games were played in the Orange Bowl. If any state has as comprehensive of a site detailing their states HS football history I haven't located it. Our record against OOS comp is second to none.And can be proved!Enjoy the site.Sorry no smack board, just history backed by credible sources.
Q&A with Chelsea Clinton:
Q-What are the three most dangerous threats facing America today?
CC- I really am not certain.
Q- I hear they are Osama, Obama, and Yo Mama.
CC- Thanks for the tip.
Looks like a great site. I don't know of one as comprehensive.
Incorrect. I AM "The DLS guy" with whom concha attended the game, and we were there hoping to be impressed with the highest quality of football that the great state of Georgia had to offer. Now bearing in mind that it is the first game of the season for these teams, and they are playing in the Georgia Dome, maybe expectations should be lower. But what we saw was as follows:
1. Slow play development
2. Poor execution
--a. Passing
--b. Tackling
--c. Blocking
Perhaps it was game 1 jitters. Perhaps they nullified each other - I doubt it.
(I've seen good teams play poorly - case in point: DLS in Calif State Title Game '06. They did not come close to resembling the team that defeated Elder in the Herbie. If that was the first time that I had seen DLS I would have said "what's all the hype about?")
Did both Georgia teams nullify themselves? Perhaps. They certainly nullified the crowd with their poor execution. To me they simply looked like average teams that executed occasionally, but made many more mistakes that took them out of their game. Run of the mill high school football - not the best that the state has to offer. We were both genuinely disappointed. I brought my son and concha had brought his entire family. I don't know about him but I was hoping to be entertained and impressed. I've got better things to do than sit around watching mediocre football. Have not attended since.
Please tell me what I'm thinking oh clairvoyant one.
Rabid one? You can't be serious. Any time he is presented with facts that refute his claims, he simply never rejoins the thread. Classic case of a rabid dog that likes the sound of his own voice. Aptly named.
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wood,
How's things? Are you liking the new digs up in the mountains?
I don't think any Georgia fan would have been impressed or proud of the performance on the field that day. Early, hyped up games between top teams can be funny though.
I remember being amazed at the call play. They'd call a run play and it would go nowhere. They'd try it again. No joy. They'd then keep doing it as if their opponent just kept getting lucky. Nobody wants to watch that.
Reminds me of this weekend's Michigan-tOSU game.
I think that game set college football back 20 years.
Win ugly, win pretty.... still a win....:blush:
That's only because you didn't know any better.
You were driving around in your Cavalier jamming to Higher Love, Graceland, and That's What friends are For.
Clarke Central lost to LaGrange 27-22 in the semifinals in 1983. The next week in the championship LaGrange lost to Tift County 59-6 at Callaway (the same Callaway family we all associate with golf clubs)Stadium in LaGrange. Interstingly enough that LaGrange had future Alabama qb Vince Sutton, Clemson qb DeChane Cameron, AA Auburn tackle Nate Hill,
AA Clemson de John Johnson.Still have the program somewhere.7 or 8 future NFL draftees were on the field that night.Tifts te became a Vol, their qb a Gator, and the center a Criminole.
S an aside Clarke Central was known as Athens High until 1970.One of their better known players during that era was Fran Tarkenton.
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I get the drift that you do not care for 3 yds and a cloud of dust.
God bless the memory of Woody, and screw the team up north. Tressel shouldn't have too much trouble with "Lost Miles".
Here is a question you may be able to answer. Bob Shannon was forced out of East St.Louis, sat out for a year and began coaching Granite City,Il.Any info on if he is still in coaching, or admin.?
I'll try to find out.
His 1985 team was unbelievable, not that I saw it (USA Today #1, though).
There is a book about Shannon and East St. Louis out (I read it and liked it).
Wheaton Warrenville-South beat East St. Louis this past Saturday in the 7A semifinals (26-0).
I was going to go, but it was raining (I am soft like that).
Here's something:
http://prepsports.stltoday.com/ssi/...BBAB4FA6F5EC4AC58625738D0017E8C6?OpenDocument
His 1985 team was unbelievable, not that I saw it (USA Today #1, though).
There is a book about Shannon and East St. Louis out (I read it and liked it).
Wheaton Warrenville-South beat East St. Louis this past Saturday in the 7A semifinals (26-0).
I was going to go, but it was raining (I am soft like that).
Here's something:
http://prepsports.stltoday.com/ssi/...BBAB4FA6F5EC4AC58625738D0017E8C6?OpenDocument
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concha,
Things are great up in the mountains. Hope that you are still enjoying "the ATL".
Yes, I've got to believe that both teams are much better than what we saw - I'm just surprised that the locals are so defensive about it.
Congrats to St. X on a great year. Saw College Gameday on Sat. show some brief highlights of the game vs. Colerain - one of the bennies of having an Ohio boy on TV every Saturday.
Wish we could get X vs. DLS some year when they are both up - but then when it's over there would be nothing left for anyone to debate...
LOL - that's the same dog that ate the Spartan playbook last December. Damn dog - should introduce him to Mr. Vick.
What, the dog ate the "hand the ball to your hardest runner when you need two yards", and the only one Lad could find was, "pitch the ball back two yards to your backup RBfor some crazy reason" play?
I think the CC coach's dog ate the page that indicates to stop throwing when your QB is throwing like a four year old in the second half.
That's fine. But, with momentum and HFA varying, it can end up meaning a lot more. It means next to nothing in some places/situations, and much more in others. You can use statistics and try to generate a rough, baseline value. I think 7 points each way is fair. Meaning, two teams that would play to a tie on a neutral field would beat the other by 7 in a home game. In the case of Lakeland-X, a 3-point road win would mean a 10-point neutral site win and a 17-point win if the game was played in Lakeland. But, I don't think you can arbitrarily assign one value to all situations.
Come now, do you believe we could have this much fun going around and about over HS basketball or baseball? All in good clean fun