Springboro seeks 7th Coach in 10 years

basketballdayton said:
Blair Albright has won at a Catholic school in Columbus and public school in Dayton. Very good, very knowledgeable. A lot of schools hire a new head coach who has never been a head coach. Blair has been very successful in two different settings.
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What DPS school did he coach? Just asking.
 
Not trying to upset anyone here, just the reality. If you don't know Blair coached at DeSales and Fairmont you are unable to write on any subject matter of high school basketball coaching. If you know high school basketball you know Blair was at DeSales and Fairmont.
 
basketballdayton said:
Blair Albright has won at a Catholic school in Columbus and public school in Dayton. Very good, very knowledgeable. A lot of schools hire a new head coach who has never been a head coach. Blair has been very successful in two different settings.
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Albright was 22-44 in gwoc play and 76-58 for his career and I think most of those wins came at desales becuase I think his fairmont teams were usually just above .500 Or below. He did make the districts a cpl times with fairmont. I don’t know how successful that really is.
 
Please notice how bad Fairmont was the three prior to Blair's arrive. Blair rebuilt a program. It is a big deal to be in a district final. That is the round of 32 out of 200 teams. Not many coaches go to regionals year after year, those are rare programs that a lot of people could coach at and have sucess. Rebuilding programs is a lot harder.
 
basketballdayton said:
Please notice how bad Fairmont was the three prior to Blair's arrive. Blair rebuilt a program. It is a big deal to be in a district final. That is the round of 32 out of 200 teams. Not many coaches go to regionals year after year, those are rare programs that a lot of people could coach at and have sucess. Rebuilding programs is a lot harder.
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He also had two GWOC players of the year roll through the program while he was there and some first teamers. Those individual awards are more on the player than the coach. So it could be seen as good timing as well.
 
Dayride said:
He also had two GWOC players of the year roll through the program while he was there and some first teamers. Those individual awards are more on the player than the coach. So it could be seen as good timing as well.
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Can be true, also can be true that the coach is the one developing the kids that become all-league/POY. A lot of times the kid has the drive, but needs the guidance/leadership from the coach. Also, the stats a kid puts up playing a certain coaches style would look much different than if the kid was in a different style of play.
 
SWOHHoops said:
Can be true, also can be true that the coach is the one developing the kids that become all-league/POY. A lot of times the kid has the drive, but needs the guidance/leadership from the coach. Also, the stats a kid puts up playing a certain coaches style would look much different than if the kid was in a different style of pla
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That is true, but I am pretty certain those kids would still be the best players on most high school teams no matter what system they are playing in. The last two kids Hall and Bohenick were tremendous players.

I decided to go back and look at the prior years as someone suggested above. Albright had 3 winning seasons under his tenure. The previous coach or may be coaches I think Fairmont had a guy for one year had 4 winning seasons. Seems like a wash to me. They have always hovered arounf the 3rd place mark in the gwoc.
 
How about we settle on, his record shows him as a decent Hs basketball coach. Not world beater by any means not bad by any means. I remember a few of his Fairmont teams. They were the same. Decent when they had good players, less than that when they didn't. That says to me that he did not necessarily amplify their situation but he did not let it deterioriate either. Not suggesting it wouldn't be a good hire. Springboro needs something.
 
12penguins said:
How about we settle on, his record shows him as a decent Hs basketball coach. Not world beater by any means not bad by any means. I remember a few of his Fairmont teams. They were the same. Decent when they had good players, less than that when they didn't. That says to me that he did not necessarily amplify their situation but he did not let it deterioriate either. Not suggesting it wouldn't be a good hire. Springboro needs something.
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I agree on that. He would probably be better than what Springboro has had recently in terms of a culture. Personally I think I would take him over Bales.

Fairmont and Springboro seem pretty similar to me. You can win some games with some average to above average talent and once in a while a star or two will come through to get you some really special seasons, but when it comes down to it you are usually always looking up at Wayne and Centerville. Then like all GWOC teams when you do make the districts you usually have to go through a buzz saw called Moeller.
 
Albright or Bales is a big time hire, how many other names with a decade of head coaching experience have been rumored for this job? Good high school coaches don't have to be coaches that go to regional games. That is very hard to do.

Good high school coaches know how the job works during the course of a calendar year and they play to the strengths of their current student - athletes.
 
basketballdayton said:
Please notice how bad Fairmont was the three prior to Blair's arrive. Blair rebuilt a program. It is a big deal to be in a district final. That is the round of 32 out of 200 teams. Not many coaches go to regionals year after year, those are rare programs that a lot of people could coach at and have sucess. Rebuilding programs is a lot harder.
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Yeah, but getting to the district in Dayton merely means that you beat two other sorry GWOC teams to get there. Not that impressive.
 
Dayride said:
I agree on that. He would probably be better than what Springboro has had recently in terms of a culture. Personally I think I would take him over Bales.

Fairmont and Springboro seem pretty similar to me. You can win some games with some average to above average talent and once in a while a star or two will come through to get you some really special seasons, but when it comes down to it you are usually always looking up at Wayne and Centerville. Then like all GWOC teams when you do make the districts you usually have to go through a buzz saw called Moeller.
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Why would he quit at Fairmont only to take the Springboro job? Seems like a stretch.
 
Redandgold said:
Why would he quit at Fairmont only to take the Springboro job? Seems like a stretch.
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Young kids maybe wanted to wait a couple years until they were school age Plus if a teaching job comes with the position, getting to teach in the same district your kids attend is a huge plus for most teachers.
 
Dayride said:
Young kids maybe wanted to wait a couple years until they were school age Plus if a teaching job comes with the position, getting to teach in the same district your kids attend is a huge plus for most teachers.
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So daddy might follow his kids like bidding basketball, football, baseball ? I have Never been in favor of this. These coaches hang around for 3-4 years and then are gone. If he’s the best candidate, then I might consider him. I don’t have a did in the fight. Good luck to all in the world of the musical coaching carousel. ?
 
1 time said:
So daddy might follow his kids like bidding basketball, football, baseball ? I have Never been in favor of this. These coaches hang around for 3-4 years and then are gone. If he’s the best candidate, then I might consider him. I don’t have a did in the fight. Good luck to all in the world of the musical coaching carousel. ?
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It’s not so much “daddy” following the kids as it is nice for a teacher parent to have the same breaks as the kids. That’s why teachers would prefer to teach in the same district as their kids. I knew a guy that had his kids go to the district he teaches in for that purpose.

I’d rather a coach leave after 3-4 years than stay somewhere they are either not happy or don’t want to coach anymore and are just going through the motions and letting the staff do it all.
 
Dayride said:
It’s not so much “daddy” following the kids as it is nice for a teacher parent to have the same breaks as the kids. That’s why teachers would prefer to teach in the same district as their kids. I knew a guy that had his kids go to the district he teaches in for that purpose.

I’d rather a coach leave after 3-4 years than stay somewhere they are either not happy or don’t want to coach anymore and are just going through the motions and letting the staff do it all.
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To still not have a coach shows what a mess this place is
 
Dayride said:
It’s not so much “daddy” following the kids as it is nice for a teacher parent to have the same breaks as the kids. That’s why teachers would prefer to teach in the same district as their kids. I knew a guy that had his kids go to the district he teaches in for that purpose.

I’d rather a coach leave after 3-4 years than stay somewhere they are either not happy or don’t want to coach anymore and are just going through the motions and letting the staff do it all.
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I agree with some of that. Until some of these schools make the right hire and support that hire, then they merry-go-round will continue. Parents and bad hires have really hurt HS sports.
 
14Red said:
I believe you can. So much of high school sports today is over the top, Paralysis by analysis. You don't have to play 100 basketball games a summer to get better. It's the quality of the time you spend with the sport, not quantity. I see guys play ball 7 days a week 10 hours a day and they are still marginal ballers. I see girls play club volleyball every weekend all summer and they don't get better. Most kids hit a plateau of their talent level.
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Bingo on the above. Doing the same thing incorrectly will never make a kid better and unfortunately that is what is happening with these marathon tournament appearances against marginal talent during the offseason. If, however, a kid manages to practice consistently for an hour or so a day the right way to do things, improvement will be seen. If they practice the same wrong thing a million times, they will still not get better.
 
Are any of the assistants from last year running things right now? Their dead period was over March 22 so they have already missed more than a month of possible open gyms/planning
 
jdizzle said:
Is anyone else baffled by the fact that there is still no official hire at Springboro? Shows how much red tape there is....
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No, only Springboro insiders. Area wide no one cares, Springboro is not relevant. Heck, it's been a month since the dead period was lifted and the administration still doesn't have candidates....that's how you know they don't care about winning.....
 
jdizzle said:
Maybe the parents who have run the past coaches out are running practices/open gyms/weight lifting.... Sorry, couldn't resist stirring the pot.
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