Preseason HS rankings 2010-11 (divisions)

No but don't say Walz is too high because he lost first week of the season,

Edsfan1- You must be frustrated with that Ed's performance this past week.
 
Meadows (D3) may just be a MH Finalist, and a top 4 at State, so rank him where ever, he placed at Ironman in a very tough weight. Not bad after making a jump from 160 last season.

I agree I was just saying that maybe the rankings were fine before and that everyone shouldn't count out Walz after an opening weekend loss after he beat Meadows and placed higher...
 
No but don't say Walz is too high because he lost first week of the season,

Edsfan1- You must be frustrated with that Ed's performance this past week.

I am pretty sure that he out scored more points at the Ironman than the great Chanel firechickens
 
edsfan1- good one...

Chanel has no one ranked nationally, what would be the point of going? Only legit shots at placing are Assad and Walters and those aren't for sures. I know Assad and Walters have beaten a few kids that placed yesterday but the rest of the team minus a few who might win a match or two wouldn't benefit at all except sitting in the gym saturday and eating food.
 
edsfan1- good one...

Chanel has no one ranked nationally, what would be the point of going? Only legit shots at placing are Assad and Walters and those aren't for sures. I know Assad and Walters have beaten a few kids that placed yesterday but the rest of the team minus a few who might win a match or two wouldn't benefit at all except sitting in the gym saturday and eating food.

37 different schools sent less then there full teams including St.Ignatius 6,Padua 7,St V and your D3 competition CVCA 7.Four schools sent only 1 wrestler.How much benefit do your top guys get wrestling the cream puffs? any more excuses?? Walsh missing 4 starters including two returning state qualifiers finished 12th.Non nationally ranked103lb Tutolo finished 6th and 112lb Stainbrook 5th.Nice job guys
 
edsfan1- good one...

Chanel has no one ranked nationally, what would be the point of going? Only legit shots at placing are Assad and Walters and those aren't for sures. I know Assad and Walters have beaten a few kids that placed yesterday but the rest of the team minus a few who might win a match or two wouldn't benefit at all except sitting in the gym saturday and eating food.

I am amazed that Assad and Walters are not nationally ranked.I mean the way that you talk about them and the rest of the team I thought that they were all ranked #1 nationally.I guess the best way to keep that ranking is not to wrestle the best.
 
Yeah you're right, it was Assad's and Walters' choice not to go to Ironman. How would the rest of the team benefit by not wrestling this weekend, they wrestled Mayfield and Kenston, for any other weekend those are good duals.
 
Yeah you're right, it was Assad's and Walters' choice not to go to Ironman. How would the rest of the team benefit by not wrestling this weekend, they wrestled Mayfield and Kenston, for any other weekend those are good duals.


They are good duals any weekend.
 
Yeah you're right, it was Assad's and Walters' choice not to go to Ironman. How would the rest of the team benefit by not wrestling this weekend, they wrestled Mayfield and Kenston, for any other weekend those are good duals.

those are good duals.The rest of the team could have wrestled there just as other teams that sent partial teams and even 1 guy in some cases.Tell me did Assad and Walters break a sweat in their wins?Really how good was it for them?
 
If they send the rest of the team to Kenston than those teams there don't benefit because chanel only has 13 in their lineup and they would send Assad, Orrill, Kiefer, Walters, Porter, Schafer and Smith. That's more than half their team and they have another out so they would of sent a dual team of 5. Kenston wouldn't of been too happy.
 
If they send the rest of the team to Kenston than those teams there don't benefit because chanel only has 13 in their lineup and they would send Assad, Orrill, Kiefer, Walters, Porter, Schafer and Smith. That's more than half their team and they have another out so they would of sent a dual team of 5. Kenston wouldn't of been too happy.

C'mon guys, Chanel has been there before and they have nothing to prove. The occassional beating up on Borofan is expected and humorous but piling on is a bit much!
 
If they send the rest of the team to Kenston than those teams there don't benefit because chanel only has 13 in their lineup and they would send Assad, Orrill, Kiefer, Walters, Porter, Schafer and Smith. That's more than half their team and they have another out so they would of sent a dual team of 5. Kenston wouldn't of been too happy.

Oh come on.You started with the Assad and Walters being the only guys worthy as the reason for not going.Now that it is pointed out that most teams do not send a whole team you say that they would have sent 7 guys and Kenston would not be happy.Well since the schedule is set much before last month and the team knows when the Ironman is and how they can get included.I can only conclude that they do not want to face top flight competition.Tell me what were the scores of the matches for Assad and Walters this week? Looking at Kenston's results Assad did not wrestle and it did not matter as Kenston's 103 was not a placer at Solon the prior week and Walters pinned in 3:38.Looking at Mayfields team results from the prior week they did not have a 103 wrestling and their 160 was pinned twice in the 1st period so no test at all.So this week was a waste for your two best guys
 
Oh come on.You started with the Assad and Walters being the only guys worthy as the reason for not going.Now that it is pointed out that most teams do not send a whole team you say that they would have sent 7 guys and Kenston would not be happy.Well since the schedule is set much before last month and the team knows when the Ironman is and how they can get included.I can only conclude that they do not want to face top flight competition.Tell me what were the scores of the matches for Assad and Walters this week? Looking at Kenston's results Assad did not wrestle and it did not matter as Kenston's 103 was not a placer at Solon the prior week and Walters pinned in 3:38.Looking at Mayfields team results from the prior week they did not have a 103 wrestling and their 160 was pinned twice in the 1st period so no test at all.So this week was a waste for your two best guys

Mat time is never a waste! Maybe these two could have got better competition, but the team was not at Ironman. So what? Neither were thousands of other teams with great wrestlers! I think this is going to far now. There have been many successful wreslters that have never been to Ironman!
 
Mat time is never a waste! Maybe these two could have got better competition, but the team was not at Ironman. So what? Neither were thousands of other teams with great wrestlers! I think this is going to far now. There have been many successful wreslters that have never been to Ironman!

My take on this is, if the Coaches believe they have the right schedule, it is on them. Chanel, in my opinion has enough senior wrestlers that have prior placement at CIT, Brecksville, Districts, and State, etc...., that yes, Ironman or another National type tournament (Beast/Powerade) could have provided a nice test on the National Level for those 6-8 wrestlers. But, there is no National Tournament Scheduled. They will get a big test at Brecksville after Christmas. Brecksville is the best in State Holiday Tournament. Chanel will also wrestle in the D3 Duals, and the CIT, both high end tourneys. It is on the Coaches to prepare for the Post Season. They may not believe in breaking up the team when entering tournaments, thus avoid the National Level type events.
 
From what I have heard, republic is essentially right -- Chanel was give the option to enter the Ironman as a partial last year and/or this year, but declined b/c they wanted to be able to enter the whole team.

None the less, we should steer back to regularly scheduled programming -- the rankings, and not letting the behavior/thoughts of one poster sidetrack us.
 
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No but don't say Walz is too high because he lost first week of the season,

Edsfan1- You must be frustrated with that Ed's performance this past week.

Why would Eds fan be frustrated? They left two of their best wrestlers behind due to football playoffs, Bright pulled off one of the biggest upsets of the ironman, unfortunate he didn't make weight the 2nd day. Heil got pinned, when the score was tied and defaulted due to injury (that won't happen again.) All things considered, I think Eds did pretty well in a national tournament and are poised to win the division I title again this year.

Ed's started the year in a triangular with CVCA and Marist then the Ironman. CVCA did the same, if anything give them credit for kicking doors down to open the season. Who has Chanel wrestled to start the year? Back to the previous post, I think Walz and Meadows both answered alot of questions with level of competition they faced in the first week of the season and will only get better.

Boro fan your unwavering bias towards Chanel has cost you your credibility when it comes to evaluating the non Chanel wrestling community.
 
Thats why they have weigh outs to stop overcutting those who do not make them OBVIOUSLY have an advantage ,those are the breaks:Ohno:nothing against Bright he is a great wrestler but it is what it is.
 
Thats why they have weigh outs to stop overcutting those who do not make them OBVIOUSLY have an advantage ,those are the breaks:Ohno:nothing against Bright he is a great wrestler but it is what it is.

pick your poison.You think that he was too heavy when he won.How about the guys in the finals in Columbus on Saturday night in March that weighed out the night before and now weigh 20lbs more in the finals
 
They still made weigh outs and a wrestler of high calibre with a lot of experience like Bright wrestling for one of the best teams in the country should be able to make weigh outs .................but it happens no big deal really .
 
From what I have heard, republic is essentially right -- Chanel was give the option to enter the Ironman as a partial last year and/or this year, but declined b/c they wanted to be able to enter the whole team.

None the less, we should steer back to regularly scheduled programming -- the rankings, and not letting the behavior/thoughts of one poster sidetrack us.

At least I may have got something right, certainly not my Ironman picks, haha. I did get Tomasello right though, I'm a CVCA homer!
 
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