#PACtion™ 2024
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Of course I was at this game! Really appreciate @Cuse for producing these each week, it will be interesting to see what you come up with going forward.
Back to this game, it was a slobberknocker for sure. This past Fall, I put together my top 10 games at the old stadium, this one came in at #7, here's what I wrote then.
7. Oct 13, 2000 vs. Tuslaw – Believe it or not, the Mustangs were a handful in those days. These two schools had some physical battles in those days, this was one of them, Manchester pulling out an 18-13 victory. I believe the 2000 Panthers were the second best team in school history (behind 1997), they lost in the playoffs to eventual state champ Ursuline by 2 TDs (Ursuline’s closest playoff game). Ursuline had nine Division 1 NCAA recruits that year.
Since PACtion™ transcends all things, it's time to recognize the 14 PAC wrestlers that will be participating in this weekend's state wrestling championships. Here's the breakdown:
Tuslaw - 3 guys
Canton South - 2 guys, 1 gal
Manchester - 2 guys, 1 gal
Northwest - 1 guy, 1 gal
CVCA - 1 guy
Fairless - 1 guy
Orrville - 1 guy
Congratulations and best of luck to these athletes!
Tuslaw - 3 guys
Canton South - 2 guys, 1 gal
Manchester - 2 guys, 1 gal
Northwest - 1 guy, 1 gal
CVCA - 1 guy
Fairless - 1 guy
Orrville - 1 guy
Congratulations and best of luck to these athletes!
Rich Kotite
Caudillo
1981 Mustangs were 9-1 and beat Lake and Northwest.
Rich Kotite
Caudillo
College football is boring. It's been a long, slow arrival to that point.Here is an interesting article about college football....I have said the power 5 conferences will become the G league and the MAC type schools will be the NCAA version....
REPORT: SEC, Big Ten, Could Dump Football Programs that Don't Contribute to TV Revenue
By now, we all know college football is a business. Big business.www.si.com
The genesis of the boredom was hatched in the backseat of Chris Fowler's Prius when ESPN and the SEC decided to get it on. The Big Ten, not wanting to be outdone, jumped in the back of Joel Klatt's Tesla with Fox Sports as Gus Johnson watched.
What is interesting or compelling about college football these days? Even the ACC and Big 12 are going to be left out of this new version of college football. What's the interesting storyline of today's college football? What makes me want to drop everything and tune in these days? How many bubble screens can a man watch? How can anyone care about the SEC if you aren't from Mudflap, Mississippi? How is UCLA vs Purdue remotely interesting if it's not a basketball game?
I believe MAC schools should have dropped down to I-AA or whatever they call it years ago. I also have family that played Division 2 NCAA college football and, bluntly, if you like empty stadiums and mediocre academics, Division 2 is for you!
Everything went to shizz when that piece of human garbage Donald Fehr poured gasoline all over the MLB players strike in 1994 and I believe it's been a long, slow decline of "big sports" ever since.
You can argue at me with "bigger revenue" but, to quote Bill Belichick, I can only go by what I see. And what I see is an increasingly boring product in all of the major sports whether it's college or professional. "Bigger revenue" driven by Wall Street & corporate America has not made sports or our nation better.
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pantherfan8
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I feel like college football is only good if it's a game between two ranked teams or games between top teams in the conference. But for the most part, the NFL will always be better than CFB despite what some people say.
RedRider1
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Bluestreakoffice
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I much prefer College Football....the Pro's are good....I just like the idea a player who will not be drafted can influence the out come of the game. I am not a fan of the changes we are seeing....but there is so much money involved and gambling it is make changes whether anybody likes it. The new game rule changes are making the game just like the pro's...speed the game up and use the extra time for more commercials....that is why I don't attend college games anymore...I just enjoyed seating thru a commercial in 85 degree heat and the sun blasting you.
Bluestreakoffice
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I agree with you totally....if it keeps moving toward the pro model....my Saturdays will become free just like my Sundays. The player strike of 1994 and how it was resolved cost the Indians a great opportunity to win the World Series....then when the Browns moved and then hijacked the area to build a stadium to come back....I gave up watching the NFL...now with LIV and the PGA...they are making it difficult to watch golf. Speaking of golf...the clubs were brought out of their winter home, cleaned, and put in the back of the vehicle! We are ready...and my 2024 version of my golf swing will hopefully not be as bad as the 2023....lol
Bluestreakoffice
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Lake beat Northwest that year 7 to 6...scored on a 48 yard pass with 2 seconds left...rushed a sophomore kicker out who had never kicked in a game and he made the extra point. Lake then beat Sandy Valley 7 to 3, beat Claymont 36 to 0, beat Minerva 27 to 6, beat Carrollton 13 to 8. That set up a week 10 game with Tuslaw at Lake for the league title(check the date of week 10, Nov 6, 1981)...Tuslaw beat Lake 16 to 14....can't remember if that loss gave Tuslaw the outright league title...I think it did...Lake ended 8-2 that year.
Rich Kotite
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Tuslaw was 1981 Senate League outright champs due to edging Lake and beating Northwest.
The coach was Jim Reichenbach who had prior head coaching experience at Glen Wood.
Just as Broc Dial has the previous head coaching experience at Dalton and now is taking over Tuslaw.
It's a real battle with people to change their mindset and have higher expectations with hiring decisions. The expectation at Tuslaw for far too long was to hire inexperienced assistant coaches as head coach because that's all people know.
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Rich Kotite
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Just read this over at the IVC thread.....
Week 4
Cardinal Mooney @ Garaway
No matter how good Sugarcreek pizza might be....you won't convince Mooney fans.
Week 4
Cardinal Mooney @ Garaway
No matter how good Sugarcreek pizza might be....you won't convince Mooney fans.
Bluestreakoffice
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Youngstown vs Amish Mennonite......lol
Bluestreakoffice
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Dial is walking into actually a great situation...he knows the school and area, no expectations on getting to the state final, his assistants can follow..my understanding is most of his assistants do not work in the Dalton School System...maybe some players follow...but there will be an issue of having to sit out the second half of the season if they played at Dalton this year...all Dial has to do is win games and have them show improvement.
Rich that is perfect. Every year I watch less and less Pro and Big Time college football. I find myself watching D3 more. The level of ball is not bad (at the better D3 schools) and there is no shenanigans like excessive roster changes ( there's some) and NIL buying players.
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cuyahogacuse
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It's Friday and What Have We Learned This Week
I have returned the DeLorean, after having spent the afternoon completing research on the Game of the Year project. All 25 games picked out. I don't want to rush the spring and summer away. But it's been a lot of fun, and I can't wait to share this new feature each week. Look for posts on Thursdays!
I'm not into callinafying people out (OK .., maybe this one time - but all in good fun), but the research project may have uncoverified the originification of Smoovelish as a new language within the past three years or so. Either that, or Mr Smoove had not yet found his mooves in posts that are carbon datified prior to 2020. #thethingsthatsurpriseyou.
You look for a GIF on "Elite Company," and instead you get Mr. Furley. How can you not use it? Sorry Poochie, the intention was to say that the soon-to-be Sacred Heart Pioneer had his name linked with Ben Roethlisberger, Ted Ginn Jr. and Mitch Trubisky when he was named winner of the Art Teynor Award, which is the coaches' version of the top player in Ohio based on athletic, academic and character components. Congrats Poochie!
Larry Csonka is tuff. Nuff said.
Don Criqui got a callout. Here he is doing the Browns-Pats in 2013, which apparently was the 47th straight season he had called an NFL game. Somehow, he doesn't look a day over 47 in this intro. Even at 83, I'd love to listen to him call NFL games again.
Water breaks are not why Sports are fun. I believe we are all clear here on this point. But extra points to @Raylan_Givens for working "lamentations" into the dialogue this week.
It seems like longer than three days ago, but Tuslaw finally "dialed" up Broc, and the Mustangs have a new, elite coach. It's been a tough journey, but it's about to get real tuff. Which is a good thing for our Tuslaw contingent.
The Winningest Coach in Fairless Football History is also now The Dean of PAC Coaches. What a difference a few years makes. Sarbaugh (35 wins and counting) coached against Koach (401 wins total, 398 at Manchester). There's been a lot of turnover in the league!
Canton Central Catholic paid a visit to PACtion™ this week. If they ever did join, the Crusaders would jump to the top of the prettiest school campus rankings.
There is no truth to the rumor that @thePITman will be teaching a class on The Art of Baseball Scoring. At least I think there is no truth to that rumor. Perhaps we should wait for him to confirm, however.
And somehow, a real-life Weekend at Bernie's reference made its way into PACtion™. And nobody blinked an eye. What a place we have here, friends. (For the record, what were those women thinking?!?).
Check another one off the calendar. We're one week closer to August. Have a good weekend, everybody!
I have returned the DeLorean, after having spent the afternoon completing research on the Game of the Year project. All 25 games picked out. I don't want to rush the spring and summer away. But it's been a lot of fun, and I can't wait to share this new feature each week. Look for posts on Thursdays!
I'm not into callinafying people out (OK .., maybe this one time - but all in good fun), but the research project may have uncoverified the originification of Smoovelish as a new language within the past three years or so. Either that, or Mr Smoove had not yet found his mooves in posts that are carbon datified prior to 2020. #thethingsthatsurpriseyou.
You look for a GIF on "Elite Company," and instead you get Mr. Furley. How can you not use it? Sorry Poochie, the intention was to say that the soon-to-be Sacred Heart Pioneer had his name linked with Ben Roethlisberger, Ted Ginn Jr. and Mitch Trubisky when he was named winner of the Art Teynor Award, which is the coaches' version of the top player in Ohio based on athletic, academic and character components. Congrats Poochie!
Larry Csonka is tuff. Nuff said.
Water breaks are not why Sports are fun. I believe we are all clear here on this point. But extra points to @Raylan_Givens for working "lamentations" into the dialogue this week.
It seems like longer than three days ago, but Tuslaw finally "dialed" up Broc, and the Mustangs have a new, elite coach. It's been a tough journey, but it's about to get real tuff. Which is a good thing for our Tuslaw contingent.
The Winningest Coach in Fairless Football History is also now The Dean of PAC Coaches. What a difference a few years makes. Sarbaugh (35 wins and counting) coached against Koach (401 wins total, 398 at Manchester). There's been a lot of turnover in the league!
Canton Central Catholic paid a visit to PACtion™ this week. If they ever did join, the Crusaders would jump to the top of the prettiest school campus rankings.
There is no truth to the rumor that @thePITman will be teaching a class on The Art of Baseball Scoring. At least I think there is no truth to that rumor. Perhaps we should wait for him to confirm, however.
And somehow, a real-life Weekend at Bernie's reference made its way into PACtion™. And nobody blinked an eye. What a place we have here, friends. (For the record, what were those women thinking?!?).
Check another one off the calendar. We're one week closer to August. Have a good weekend, everybody!
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thePITman
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Haha, that's funny! Fun fact: The wife and I have kept book for every state Final Four game since 2009.It's Friday and What Have We Learned This Week
There is no truth to the rumor that @thePITman will be teaching a class on The Art of Baseball Scoring. At least I think there is no truth to that rumor. Perhaps we should wait for him to confirm, however.
Speaking of, who can find what is wrong here?
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Rich Kotite
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The Bengals are the last NFL interest I have. Even then, I won't watch some of the things I find ridiculous like Sunday night 8:30 pm kickoff games when you start the work week Monday morning. It's ridiculous with the games often ending near midnight.
Rich that is perfect. Every year I watch less and less Pro and Big Time college football. I find myself watching D3 more. The level of ball is not bad (at the better D3 schools) and there is no shenanigans like excessive roster changes ( there's some) and NIL buying players.
I will not watch any game on ESPN and I won't watch any game with Joe Buck / Aikman as the announcers.
I don't and won't watch the SEC; I would rather watch Unbreakable Kimmie Schmidt and that was the dummest TV show I ever watched.
I can not stand Gus Johnson and his schtick. It's tiresome and Joel Klatt is a know it all.
I can't watch any game on ABC and Chris Fowler. That might as well be Chris Christie in the booth shoving pepperoni rolls in his face.
TriangleMan
Hates Particle Man
Runner on 2nd never reached 3rd base, ball was still live, could have been tagged out to negate the run.
Substitute Bengals with Steelers and I'm similar. I used to watch the Thursday college game, go to a HS game Friday, watch college all day Saturday (hoping Pitt would be on), the Steelers (usually 1pm) and the other game game ( usually 4pm) on Sunday, then MNF.
Now I watch a HS Friday night game, Pitt if they are being competitive on Saturday, I'll stream a top D3 game, and watch the Steelers on Sunday. I never watch TNF, SNF, or MNF unless it's the Steelers and generally just the first half. Like you I work the next day and not looking to stay up that late. I was initially excited about more games to watch, but it changed. If I watch more regular season football than that, it's because I have nothing else to do/watch. I'll still watch the playoffs but my interest in that is dwindling.
I hate to say it, but the game has changed to a product I do not recognize. As you saw I was a hard-core football fan. They changed the game to caterer to Fantasy Football fans and gamblers. They do not care about hard-core football fans. The rules now make it so that defenses can't even play defense (and I'm not talking about targeting) and I hate instant replay with a passion. I would rather see a wrong call then a 20 minute interruption for a call that is "correct".
Going back to TNF, SNF, MNF the NFL is just cashing in. The quality of play suffers from all these games plus the NFL is just overexposed. Too much of a good thing is bad imo in this case.
As for other sports I was never a NBA/basketball or NHL/hockey fan so I don't care what happens there. I did like MLB/baseball but you know what is wrong there.
It's why I have become such a big fan of wrestling in the past 7/8 years. It was a sport I did growing up, but I never followed it much, just enough to know who won PA states and NCAAs. Now I follow it closely. I am a 90s kid but I heard a coach say (hope i dont butcher it so it makes sense) " if there is an attitude today similar to the 70s, it will be found in the wrestling room." I can appreciate that and I enjoy that.
Rich Kotite
Caudillo
This is also my view. I'd add they want female fans so they've tried to make the sport like a video game with even sad quarterbacks throwing for 300 yards a game.
These football broadcasters, too, are just insufferable to me.
If they were truly slinging it down field with deep balls that would be one thing. But when Cousins, Carr, Prudyetc are putting up Marino type numbers weekly when Kelly/Montana/Farve put maybe 4 games a year like that, you know they screwed with the game.
Bluestreakoffice
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Wow Isosceles! I looked at that replay for 15 minutes....all I picked up was the umpire kept standing at home plate....and watched the celebration. I kept wondering why it took so long for him to walk off the diamond.
Bluestreakoffice
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I somewhat agree with you...but I will watch the games they have on Saturday. If it is nice out I will catch the games in the evening. I still watch all the Ohio State games....I just turn the tv commentators down and listen to Paul Keels.
If Fawcett was still around I would go there for a Saturday night game....I won't go to Benson.
TV in general has went to crap....I watch Diner's, Drive-ins, and Dives, Swamp People (just because some of them there gators are huge and to catch them like that those people are crazee...lol), used to be a big watcher of Motor Trend...but they have went stupid, I watch a lot of AHC with World War 2 in color, and college football. I am not as dedicated...used to watch a lot of bowl games...but that has went stupid...especially this year's Fla St vs Georgia game....no pro sports.
ShootNation
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It couldn't be that the level of QB play has reached a new level with the advent of full season training regiments, high level offensive schemes, and copious amounts of tape review could it? Nah, no way. The game peaked in 1984 for sure
firewatch
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You have just been spoiled by the talents of Bill Caples and Ray Jeski calling Friday night masterpieces while you sip whiskey and contemplate switching to Aqua Ohio.
bob99
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Wow that sounds boring! Are you sure you are not 80 years old and live with two women in Ashtabula?
Bluestreakoffice
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No am not 80...lol...I like Diner's, Drive-ins, and Dive's...you get to see interesting parts of this great country you would normally not....now concerning those industrious women in Ashtabula...well I was warned early on to stir clear of your sisters.....that's a fact!...lol
bob99
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I don't have any sisters. I do have a brother. Do with him what you like. I don't judge
Bluestreakoffice
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Naaaa...I wouldn't want to break up a lovely couple....your Aunts would not be happy!...lolI don't have any sisters. I do have a brother. Do with him what you like. I don't judge