Mark Hall

 
How can this kid still be in 7th grade? Transfers last year, transfers this year...what's up with that? Are his parents seriously thinking about college at 7th grade?
 
I mean no disrespect to mark hall but if he's still a 7th grader, the entire thing has become a complete joke
 
Mark Hall was born in '96 which makes him a legit 7th grader.

As long as he is within the rules age wise, who cares.
 
Mark Hall was born in '96 which makes him a legit 7th grader.

As long as he is within the rules age wise, who cares.

Exactly. He wasn't the first and certainly won't be the last kid to be held back in middle school. It is only a big deal to everyone because he is a hammer on the mat. While I don't necessarily agree with it, we don't know the situation (unless you happen to be part of the family) and can't really know what was best for Mark.
 
My point is that he was in 7th last year. Transfers to Apple Valley and he is in 7th again? I understand holding back kids a year, even two....but seems like more than that and wonder about the motivations working here.

Sorry, just curious. I think the kid is exciting to watch and wish him and his fam all the best.
 
His dad wants 6 state championships, bottom line. Who cares he isn't in Ohio anymore, and in a few years he will be injured or will quit.
 
Big D, are you 100% sure he was born in 96? As I recall, he began his 7th grade year @ Ryle as a 12 year old, which would mean his birth year had to have been in 1997, right?

Even still, what is all the complaining about? Every single year there are literally dozens of 16 year old freshmen @ the OHSAA State Tournament. It's not illegal in any state, folks. It's kinda like whining about losing to a kid because he was stronge.
 
Big D, are you 100% sure he was born in 96? As I recall, he began his 7th grade year @ Ryle as a 12 year old, which would mean his birth year had to have been in 1997, right?

Even still, what is all the complaining about? Every single year there are literally dozens of 16 year old freshmen @ the OHSAA State Tournament. It's not illegal in any state, folks. It's kinda like whining about losing to a kid because he was stronge.

Good point, coach.
 
Hall is a 1997 birthday. While he is being held back, he is not the first nor will he be the last. There are some out there like cortez who exhaust cadet status before hs, Hall will not.
 
His dad wants 6 state championships, bottom line. Who cares he isn't in Ohio anymore, and in a few years he will be injured or will quit.

Why would somebody say he's gonna get hurt or quit and he's from Michigan not Ohio and I think he will get those 6 titles
 
Hall is a 1997 birthday. While he is being held back, he is not the first nor will he be the last. There are some out there like cortez who exhaust cadet status before hs, Hall will not.

Hall is 13 in the 7th if your 13 beating 17 and 18 yr olds what's the problem
 
Good point, coach.

I never understood the argument against the middle school "redshirt". I mean, is the argument based solely on "but that kid is older than mine :("? It's one thing to break the rules but this isn't even illegal, regardless of how bad it hurts some poor daddy's feelings. And Mark Hall specifically was already almost an entire year YOUNGER than his peers! Quit your whining, people. The kid is young enough his parents could rightfully hold him back another year and he would still be eligible in every state in the United States!
 
Ok, if he is so great, then wouldn't you want him to graduate as soon as he can and then go to college? What is the point of holding him back? What is he going to gain by wrestling high school for 7 years? Unless he cannot keep his grades up.
 
His dad wants 6 state championships, bottom line. Who cares he isn't in Ohio anymore, and in a few years he will be injured or will quit.

My guess, he beat your 17 year old kid when he was 12 and you're still bitter about it?? He never was in Ohio in the first place, get your facts straight, whiner. He attended Gray Middle School (feeder to Ryle HS in KY) last season as a 12 year old 7th grader. Because of Kentucky's HS rules he was allowed to wrestle varsity as a 7th grader. And because Ryle wrestles a great deal of their schedule on this side of the river he did compete at a few in-season Ohio tournaments. But he was never enrolled at a school in this state.
 
Ok, if he is so great, then wouldn't you want him to graduate as soon as he can and then go to college? What is the point of holding him back? What is he going to gain by wrestling high school for 7 years? Unless he cannot keep his grades up.

So your only real argument against this is because it hurts your feelings, right?
 
I never understood the argument against the middle school "redshirt". I mean, is the argument based solely on "but that kid is older than mine :("? It's one thing to break the rules but this isn't even illegal, regardless of how bad it hurts some poor daddy's feelings. And Mark Hall specifically was already almost an entire year YOUNGER than his peers! Quit your whining, people. The kid is young enough his parents could rightfully hold him back another year and he would still be eligible in every state in the United States!

But what's the point of the holdback? If a 12 year old kid is able to beat most 17 year olds, why keep him in middle school for one more year?
 
No, I don't care. I just don't understand it. Everyone was talking about it so I put my 2 cents worth. My point on quiting or getting hurt is legit. 7 years of high school wrestling and you are taking a huge chance of getting hurt, or burnt out.
I still think other then grades or trying to get 6 state titles why hold him back? I can understand it for grades, but no other reason.
 
There are a multitude of reasons to consider holding a child back. Athletic, academic, social, maturity, etc. Mark Hall was a very young kid last year in the 7th grade. Regardless of his athletic ability there were plenty of other justifiable reasons to retain him. And the argument that he will get hurt...this is a kid that wrestles over 250 matches a year against the best/older competition in the country. This family travels the country to wrestle at tournaments like the super 32 (yes, in the HS division).
 
But what's the point of the holdback? If a 12 year old kid is able to beat most 17 year olds, why keep him in middle school for one more year?

Why not? The kid was 12 years old, not 14. It's perfectly legal and the last time I checked it's his parents' right to do so. As a parent I completely understand doing whatever you can do to give your kid the best possible chance at success, provided it is perfectly legal. Which this is. All I'm saying is this is perfectly legal in every state in America. So the argument against it holds absolutely no water.
 
I can understand why some people don't understand why his parents do it but in the end it is no one's business.

I just watched that match and have watched him wrestle since he was a little kid. How can you not be a fan of him.

green-d,

If you didn't mean anything by it then you need to be aware of how your statement comes off as a blanket statement typed out on an internet forum. It sounded malicious.

There are plenty of athletes that take the early leap. Capriati, Lebron, Kobe, OJ Mayo, etc. It would be different if Hall was wrestling high school kids and getting thumped. He is winning probably 95% of the matches. That says he belongs. However, I hope that he doesn't get burnt out or mentally worn out. Not my decision and neither I or you have control over it.

So sit back and enjoy. He is a Lebron of wrestling. Be glad and hope the sport gets a lot of positive attention from it.
 
But what's the point of the holdback? If a 12 year old kid is able to beat most 17 year olds, why keep him in middle school for one more year?

Exactly, if he is already that good, why hold him back? Makes no sense, unless it is for education, which I would guess is the reason for the hold back.
 
I can understand why some people don't understand why his parents do it but in the end it is no one's business.

I just watched that match and have watched him wrestle since he was a little kid. How can you not be a fan of him.

green-d,

If you didn't mean anything by it then you need to be aware of how your statement comes off as a blanket statement typed out on an internet forum. It sounded malicious.

There are plenty of athletes that take the early leap. Capriati, Lebron, Kobe, OJ Mayo, etc. It would be different if Hall was wrestling high school kids and getting thumped. He is winning probably 95% of the matches. That says he belongs. However, I hope that he doesn't get burnt out or mentally worn out. Not my decision and neither I or you have control over it.

So sit back and enjoy. He is a Lebron of wrestling. Be glad and hope the sport gets a lot of positive attention from it.

Make the leap into college, I hope not.
 
Why not? The kid was 12 years old, not 14. It's perfectly legal and the last time I checked it's his parents' right to do so. As a parent I completely understand doing whatever you can do to give your kid the best possible chance at success, provided it is perfectly legal. Which this is. All I'm saying is this is perfectly legal in every state in America. So the argument against it holds absolutely no water.

Again, he is already beating the older kids; so what edge are you giving him?
 
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