Hate to do this

This is one incredibly pathetic thread... Good thing X is not out to prove they are the best except in the only way they can...beating every team they play...

1) you compare week 1 to week 10 - and in doing so you fail to understand the nature of the game and you fail to understand Moeller which is a team that only tends to click late in the season... That same team that lost to the Regional champs after 3OT is the same team that lost to Lakota West in the first week. Did LW play Colerain nearly as closely? The answer is no... your comparison here is worthless.

2) You are also talking about an X team that has had two key injuries... and the hardest schedule in the nation according to some to weather those injuries against. Those to players happen to be the biggest star and the architect of the offense... hmmm...

3) Lets run some numbers...

Moeller 22 vs MV 26
De La Salle 35 vs MV 7

Moeller 33 vs Elder 49
St. X 45 vs Elder 14

So X would beat DLS by 15 right?

Only if you're an sweetie and try to use score comparisons because you have no real understanding of high school football/choose to ignore the fact that A vs B + B vs C comparisons hold no water because you are trying to prove a point that cannot be proven.

4) Until the rest of the GCL plays MV and Moeller rematches MV, you have no argument with the numbers game.

EXAMPLE:

Game 1:
Princeton 43 Centerville 42

Game 2:
Princeton 21 Centerville 42
(with 14 of Princeton's pts coming late in the game after all of Centervilles 42)

Or another better example:

Game 1
St. X 42 vs St. Ignatius 41

Game 2 (State Finals)
#2 St. X (10-0) 7 vs Unranked St. Ignatius (6-4) 37

Interesting how some teams keep improving through the end of the season Moeller has a history of doing the exact same thing.

You aren't taken seriously around here and for good reason, you have virtually nothing to base your arguments on and until DLS and X either play (which they won't) or have many more common opponents not ones twice removed there is no way to gauge it. So as sure as you are, you have no idea... At least the other posters on here acknowledge that...
 
its too bad thois pathetic thread has 1000 views and 200 responses

these st x wannabes are coming out of the woodwork like I challeneged their manhood

I am sorry USA Today and other polls DROPPED St X in their rankings after a poor performance against a 3 loss team

that wasnt me and my thread who dropped them
 
you left out st x 28, moeller 14 and of course this post and thread PRECEDES the St X - ELder playoff game, you can conveniently include it NOW after the game

how convenient for argument sake (no other proof) that moeller always plays better at the end of the year

how can you tell when a team goes 5-5????


as for the moeller - colerain playoff game

I am glad moeller made a miracle comeback from like a 28-7 deficit

9 x out of 10 the game is won by 30 or more

so moeller made a miracle comeback (and still lost) and this is what you hang your hat on

sheesh
 
4) Until the rest of the GCL plays MV and Moeller rematches MV, you have no argument with the numbers game.

in the herbie cali 3-0 against 2 gcl teams and glenville, I think that is a STRONG argument

you have virtually nothing to base your arguments on and until DLS and X either play

Darn my whole life revolves around whether DLS and X play


1) I stand by my base assertions: having a strong SOS does not ALONE qualify a team for a top national ranking

2) the GCL has 1 excellent team and three good to very good teams and those 4 teams alone DO NOT make the best conference in the nation, mainly based on the small number of teams
 
its too bad thois pathetic thread has 1000 views and 200 responses

these st x wannabes are coming out of the woodwork like I challeneged their manhood

I am sorry USA Today and other polls DROPPED St X in their rankings after a poor performance against a 3 loss team

that wasnt me and my thread who dropped them

A lot of pathetic threads have a lot more views and comments than this one.:shrug: :shrug:

I'm not attacking USA Today, I'm attacking your half thought out arguements... my issues with you have nothing to do with USA Today - I understand what those polls are about and how they work and they are what they are... If I thought X was the best (and I do) I'd have plenty of reason to think so. It is you with the problem, not me.
 
was Darius Asheley injured last year in the game against Colerain?

who won>?

A quarterback with 1 game of experience may have had something to do with it... and perhaps Colerain even planned better - but when did I bring up the Colerain game. Was I talking about last years X game, or using that game as an example... Are you trying to make some sort of point? If you are you have failed to make it...
 
A quarterback with 1 game of experience may have had something to do with it... and perhaps Colerain even planned better - but when did I bring up the Colerain game. Was I talking about last years X game, or using that game as an example... Are you trying to make some sort of point? If you are you have failed to make it...

here we go with the ohio excuses

seen last year moeller vs byrnes

st x vs lakeland

now st x vs colerain last years playoffs

this year moeller vs mv

st x vs st iggy

we had injuries (boo hoo)

we had a baby soph as a QB (boo hoo)

our kicking game was bad (boo hoo)

the refs missed the call (boo hoo)

we got too conservative (boo hoo)

we dont play well until the end of the season (boo hoo)

god I wish i got a penny for every pacifier sold in ohio
 
A quarterback with 1 game of experience may have had something to do with it... and perhaps Colerain even planned better - but when did I bring up the Colerain game. Was I talking about last years X game, or using that game as an example... Are you trying to make some sort of point? If you are you have failed to make it...

YOU used the excuse of injuries and I simply asked since we know Darius was injured a few games this year did having a healthy darius help St X last year against colerain. I THINK I MADE THE POINT VERY WELL!

you can answer ANYTIME

I still like what MANY yappi posters said last year after seeing DLS up close and personal

"DLS is like St X EXCEPT they have like SIX Darius Asheleys"

couldnt say it better myself
 
you left out st x 28, moeller 14 and of course this post and thread PRECEDES the St X - ELder playoff game, you can conveniently include it NOW after the game

how convenient for argument sake (no other proof) that moeller always plays better at the end of the year

how can you tell when a team goes 5-5????


as for the moeller - colerain playoff game

I am glad moeller made a miracle comeback from like a 28-7 deficit

9 x out of 10 the game is won by 30 or more

so moeller made a miracle comeback (and still lost) and this is what you hang your hat on

sheesh

I have "conveniently" included the second Elder game because it helps to prove a point, a point made by many other posters before the second game was played. What is convenient is that you seem to think you shouldn't be held accountable for such a defenseless A vs B vs C comparison.

Moeller's track record has shown (and continued to do so this year) that they improve by the quality teams they play and how closely they play them. Moeller lost to Elder but played very closely a team that blew out Elder. I've already offered Lakota West as an example among others.

Also... you should choose your miracles, Moeller made another miracle comeback against Sycamore... after awhile it doesn't seem so much like a miracle... perhaps the miracle is the fact that the other team was able to score so many unanswered points to begin with. But I have not hung my hat on just this, it is simply another example of how the logic you used does not hold water.
 
I have "conveniently" included the second Elder game because it helps to prove a point, a point made by many other posters before the second game was played. What is convenient is that you seem to think you shouldn't be held accountable for such a defenseless A vs B vs C comparison.

Moeller's track record has shown (and continued to do so this year) that they improve by the quality teams they play and how closely they play them. Moeller lost to Elder but played very closely a team that blew out Elder. I've already offered Lakota West as an example among others.

Also... you should choose your miracles, Moeller made another miracle comeback against Sycamore... after awhile it doesn't seem so much like a miracle... perhaps the miracle is the fact that the other team was able to score so many unanswered points to begin with. But I have not hung my hat on just this, it is simply another example of how the logic you used does not hold water.


yuo hung your hat on a game moeller LOST

I thought ohions all say the only thing that matters is winning

how convenient when you take 3 overtimes to beat a 3 loss team by 3

but when you "take a regional champion" to three overtimes and lose you can bring that up

that is called hypocritical
 
here we go with the ohio excuses

seen last year moeller vs byrnes

st x vs lakeland

now st x vs colerain last years playoffs

this year moeller vs mv

st x vs st iggy

we had injuries (boo hoo)

we had a baby soph as a QB (boo hoo)

our kicking game was bad (boo hoo)

the refs missed the call (boo hoo)

we got too conservative (boo hoo)

we dont play well until the end of the season (boo hoo)

god I wish i got a penny for every pacifier sold in ohio

I wish I had a penny for every Cali apologist who feels a need to prove something to another extremely successful and competitive state, with half thought through arguements and meaningless off topic tirades (boo hoo)...

But then I might be poor because you sir stand alone as possibly having the worst Ohio complex of any California poster - no poster from DLS has ever offered such convoluted dribble.

If you ask for reasons and explanations for game outcomes don't complain when you get them...
 
I wish I had a penny for every Cali apologist who feels a need to prove something to another extremely successful and competitive state, with half thought through arguements and meaningless off topic tirades (boo hoo)...

But then I might be poor because you sir stand alone as possibly having the worst Ohio complex of any California poster - no poster from DLS has ever offered such convoluted dribble.

If you ask for reasons and explanations for game outcomes don't complain when you get them...

you forgot pathetic and sweetie in this post

and we all know namecalling is the highest form of debate
 
YOU used the excuse of injuries and I simply asked since we know Darius was injured a few games this year did having a healthy darius help St X last year against colerain. I THINK I MADE THE POINT VERY WELL!

you can answer ANYTIME

I still like what MANY yappi posters said last year after seeing DLS up close and personal

"DLS is like St X EXCEPT they have like SIX Darius Asheleys"

couldnt say it better myself

There was no point made, I talk about how X was successful with an incredibly tough schedule this year despite the loss of two key players and to that you bring up last years playoff game? Are you an sweetie?

Perhaps DLS is that good, never once did I say they weren't. What I did say is that no one knows that and that your logic certainly cannot prove that DLS is better. I do believe X can beat them and I have my reasons but I never said DLS is any less deserving of a #1 rating even though if I used your logic, I could.
 
There was no point made, I talk about how X was successful with an incredibly tough schedule this year despite the loss of two key players and to that you bring up last years playoff game? Are you an sweetie?

Perhaps DLS is that good, never once did I say they weren't. What I did say is that no one knows that and that your logic certainly cannot prove that DLS is better. I do believe X can beat them and I have my reasons but I never said DLS is any less deserving of a #1 rating even though if I used your logic, I could.

if x could hold dls to under 21 points they would have a great chance

if they couldnt (few can) good night

x is a great team

lets see what happens in the next 4 weeks
 
yuo hung your hat on a game moeller LOST

I thought ohions all say the only thing that matters is winning

how convenient when you take 3 overtimes to beat a 3 loss team by 3

but when you "take a regional champion" to three overtimes and lose you can bring that up

that is called hypocritical

Winning matters most and there is no doubt about that, but I have never said that winning is always indicative of who is the better team... on any given night a lesser team can beat what should be a better team... it is the teams that keep those scenarios from happening (even if only barely) that are the true champions. There is not a lot that seperates top teams. And for the record I brought up both the games you talk about.
 
i will just call them what they are

crybaby excuses

I wish for once the posts would say Moeller lost to a better team

or St x didnt play well tonight

not excuses 1-8

You only call things in a way to make yourself feel like you have some valid point... There are reasons for every loss and sometimes very flagrant unfortunate reasons that impact the outcome of the game... You would be and are very foolish to deny that. Wouldn't saying "X didn't play very well tonight" (which was the overwhelming consensus after last year's regional final) be one of those reasons? I am free to speculate that MV is no longer the better team just as you are free to think that X is not worthy of a #1 rating... As long as you have a valid arguement I have no issue... It is when you resort to name calling and baseless dribble that I will call you on something.
 
and since we all seem to like being the devils advocate

I guess the 1972 Dolphins (17-0-0) were not really any good because the best team they played during the regular season was only 8-6

so since they did not have a killer schedule they cant be any good
 
When you play good teams all of the time you aren't going to get style points because you aren't going to blow out teams all of the time. So if you use the whole DLS scored as many points as St X did all year, just in the first half of games, it doesn't mean much. Why do you believe DLS is the best (i know they are nasty because i always hear the fball players talking about DLS) all I am hearing from you is reasons why St. X isnt the best?
 
When you play good teams all of the time you aren't going to get style points because you aren't going to blow out teams all of the time. So if you use the whole DLS scored as many points as St X did all year, just in the first half of games, it doesn't mean much. Why do you believe DLS is the best (i know they are nasty because i always hear the fball players talking about DLS) all I am hearing from you is reasons why St. X isnt the best?

there is no doubt in my mind NO ONE knows who is better

I have NEVER said DLS is defitnitely better than ST X

based on YTD games and schedule, I would give ST X a slight edge this year
 
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