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St Xavier 28. Moeller 14

Mission Viejo 26, Moeller 22 (MV travels 2,000 miles)

De La Salle 35, Mission Viejo 7 (DLS travels 400 miles)

St X is 14 points better than Moeller
MV is 4 points better than Moeller
DLS is 28 points better than MV

based on these scores, would St X beat MV by 28 as DLS did?
would DLS beat Moeller by 14 as St X did

we would have to assume the answer to the first question is no as ST X beat a team MV beat by 14 so it reasons that they would beat MV by less, since MV beat them also

we assume DLS who beat MV by 28, who beat Moeller by 4 would certainly beat Moeller by more than 14 that ST X did

St X dropped several rungs in some of the polls last week

will that continue this week
 
 
You know that hunch you had that made you write "hate to do this"? You should have listened to it. Way too many variables involved in such-score based assumptions to create strong predictions.
 
consumerman said:
But

St Xavier 28. Moeller 14

Mission Viejo 26, Moeller 22 (MV travels 2,000 miles)

De La Salle 35, Mission Viejo 7 (DLS travels 400 miles)

St X is 14 points better than Moeller
MV is 4 points better than Moeller
DLS is 28 points better than MV

based on these scores, would St X beat MV by 28 as DLS did?
would DLS beat Moeller by 14 as St X did

we would have to assume the answer to the first question is no as ST X beat a team MV beat by 14 so it reasons that they would beat MV by less, since MV beat them also

we assume DLS who beat MV by 28, who beat Moeller by 4 would certainly beat Moeller by more than 14 that ST X did

St X dropped several rungs in some of the polls last week

will that continue this week
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St. X is is overated, everyone here has been saying Mooney is better for awhile.
 
PhillyBomber said:
Righttttt....

Only people who have no idea what they are talking about.

Toughest schedule ever, and the result? 10-0. Can't make a better argument for a #1.
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huh?

you took 3 overtimes to beat SI

and SI lost previously

what was the score of the SI loss (not St X)

you beat what everyone agrees is a so-so Moeller team by 14

not as impressive as you are trying to make it

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oh St X beat a team by 3 in 3 overtimes that lost 38-17 to another team

what does that say?
 
Why did everyone suddenly forget that the Iggy game was the first start for a Sophomore who had only been on the Varsity roster for a week? Then driving 200+ miles to beat top 10 in the state Iggy in Cleveland. Bottom line is X played the toughest schedule in the nation and went 10-0. They did this without Darius for 4 of those games and the last 2 without their starting QB. Why all of the sudden is X overrated???

But no, you didn't hate to do this.
 
consumerman said:
huh?

you took 3 overtimes to beat SI

and SI lost previously

what was the score of the SI loss (not St X)

you beat what everyone agrees is a so-so Moeller team by 14

not as impressive as you are trying to make it

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oh St X beat a team by 3 in 3 overtimes that lost 38-17 to another team

what does that say?
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It was a sophomore quarterback's first game in his career against a formidable opponent in St Ignatius.

I've said it before and i'll say it again, transitive property can't be used effectively in high school football or any football football for that matter.

Did you ever think a team with the toughest schedule in the nation might be a little beaten up after 8 games and a Sophomore quarterback? Cut the team some slack, they have played their butts off all season..give credit where it is due consumerman. I know it's tough
 
I love this example of comparing scores.

Last year, X beat Moeller by 21.

Moeller then took Colerain to triple OT (I think?) and lost.

Man, I guess X should've beaten up on Colerain then!

It doesn't work like Math class!
 
WestSideBomber said:
Why did everyone suddenly forget that the Iggy game was the first start for a Sophomore who had only been on the Varsity roster for a week? Then driving 200+ miles to beat top 10 in the state Iggy in Cleveland. Bottom line is X played the toughest schedule in the nation and went 10-0. They did this without Darius for 4 of those games and the last 2 without their starting QB. Why all of the sudden is X overrated???

But no, you didn't hate to do this.
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what class was the QB for SI???
 
WestSideBomber said:
I love this example of comparing scores.

Last year, X beat Moeller by 21.

Moeller then took Colerain to triple OT (I think?) and lost.

Man, I guess X should've beaten up on Colerain then!

It doesn't work like Math class!
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Colerain was SMOKING Moeller before Moeller made a miracle (almost) comeback
 
NorrisHopper30 said:
It was a sophomore quarterback's first game in his career against a formidable opponent in St Ignatius.

I've said it before and i'll say it again, transitive property can't be used effectively in high school football or any football football for that matter.

Did you ever think a team with the toughest schedule in the nation might be a little beaten up after 8 games and a Sophomore quarterback? Cut the team some slack, they have played their butts off all season..give credit where it is due consumerman. I know it's tough
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what makes it the toughest schedule in the nation?

your opinion?

Ohio newspapers?

Yappi members?

De Matha beat a 3-4 team 7-6

wow what a power

ELder?
Moeller?
LaSalle?
St. Eds

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SI - a team that got blown out by a D4 school?

Bishop Chatard?

a D3 team in Indiana?

you really believe this propganda?
 
consumerman said:
what class was the QB for SI???
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Sophomore, but that has nothing to do with Iggy's D (or X's D for that matter). But, I will point this out. Great teams find a way to win. X has been on the ropes all season long with injuries, but they still went 10-0.

Adversity cause some men to break; others to break records.
-William A. Ward
 
Crusaders Football said:
St. Xavier's schedule was the toughest in the country bar none.

Iggy played a bad game against a very good Mentor game and ST. X traveled 200 miles (about).

WW finished 7-3 and is going to the playoffs, Dematha has 1 loss and is in line to run the table, Glenville has 2 losses, given up 6 pts and won 7 straight since X beat them, Trinity's only other loss was to Louisville St. X, Chatard is 7-3, Elder is 7-3 and unbeaten since X beat them, X dismantled LaSalle and Eds, beat arguably the second best team in the state in Iggy, and beat Moeller, who is a playoff team.

All but LaSalle and Eds are going to the playoffs and both just missed it.... thats 8 of their 10 opponents.

They have the toughest schedule in the nation and play in the best conference in the nation.

Last, everyone who has seen them more than once or twice agrees Moeller has gotten MUCH better since they played MV and Elder.

Congratulations on your win over Mission Viejo. Don't try and downgrade X's success please.
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What makes a 4 team conference with one good team and a bunch of mediocre teams the best conference in the country?

Moeller? A team that lost to MV by 4, who in turn lost to DLS by 28?
Elder a team that Moeller put over 40 on in one half?

De Matha scored 7 points on a 3-4 team YAWN

St Iggy got BLOWN OUT by a D4 school
Chatard is a D3 school from Indiana
St Eds is very weak this year

congrats on a fine regular season

don't overhype a good schedule into the toughest in the country

try making it out of your region this year before annointing yourself (or at least being competitive vs Colerain)
 
PS why is your sophomre qb such a disadvantage over a soph qb from a team that got blown out by 21 >??

curious as to the thinking.

Sophomore Matt Gutierrez had 6 TD passes and 300 yards against national power Mater Dei in 1999 for DLS. They did not need an excuse when they beat Matt Leinart and MD 42-0
 
NorrisHopper30 said:
http://www.maxpreps.com/FanPages/NationalRankings.mxp/Boys_Varsity_Football_Fall_07-08
X's schedule rank is nearly double DLS'. No one else even comes close to X's schedule, I wonder why?

You are the only one here calling the GCL mediocre and saying X's schedule is soft.
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answer me this

what makes a 4 team conference (that in itself is a joke) the best conference in the nation?


St X - having a banner year

Elder ?

Moeller?

whoever the 4th team is???

why is that the best conference in the nation?

pls answer me

if Moeller is so great why did they lose to MV, a team DLS crushed?
 
consumerman said:
answer me this

what makes a 4 team conference (that in itself is a joke) the best conference in the nation?


St X - having a banner year

Elder ?

Moeller?

whoever the 4th team is???

why is that the best conference in the nation?

pls answer me

if Moeller is so great why did they lose to MV, a team DLS crushed?
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DLS isn't a conference, what does that have to do with us losing to MV? You're arguing oranges to apples, trying to prove a point that DLS > GCL-s.

Moeller had a bad first half, and have improved drastically the past 3 weeks. I think this Moe team could beat MV.
 
NorrisHopper30 said:
DLS isn't a conference, what does that have to do with us losing to MV? You're arguing oranges to apples, trying to prove a point that DLS > GCL-s.

Moeller had a bad first half, and have improved drastically the past 3 weeks. I think this Moe team could beat MV.
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nothing like opinions vs actual on the field results

Mission Viejo 26, Moeller 22

De La Salle 35, Mission Viejo 7

St Xavier 28, Moeller 14

those aren't biased opinions now are they
 
consumerman said:
nothing like opinions vs actual on the field results

Mission Viejo 26, Moeller 22

De La Salle 35, Mission Viejo 7

St Xavier 28, Moeller 14

those aren't biased opinions now are they
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But again, this isn't math class.

If A=B=C, then A=C doesn't work out on the football field.

And Moeller is no cake walk this year. They made the playoffs in the toughest region in Ohio. They by no means are a powerhouse, but it's not like they're horrible.
 
WestSideBomber said:
But again, this isn't math class.

If A=B=C, then A=C doesn't work out on the football field.

And Moeller is no cake walk this year. They made the playoffs in the toughest region in Ohio. They by no means are a powerhouse, but it's not like they're horrible.
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mission viejo 26 moeller 22
dos 35 mv 7
 
Consumerman you continue to put the GCL down. What conference or district in the country is better? Calpreps gives the league a rating of 51. The second place league has a rating of 47.2. The top ranked league in Texas is District 14-5A (#4) with a rating of 39.3.

To give you a frame of reference DLS plays in the Bay Valley rated at 20.4 or 202nd in the nation. Texas High plays in District 11-4A and is rated 20.1 or 214th. I consider my district average this year as the 22nd best district in Texas. The Bay Valley would be #20.

Give the GCL South the credit they deserve.
 
I'd love to do this




X dropped in USAT because they don't know what the ---- they're talking about. Lets look at the factors going into the game. 1) It was a 200+ away game 2) its a rivalry game, as everyone should know in HS...anything can freaking happen 3) X was starting a new, SOPHOMORE, QB 4) Weather, was huge...something like 20 mph winds which screwed up a few Milligan kicks, 1 i know would have ended the game in regulation.
 
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Crusaders Football said:
Consumerman, go away, you do not know what you are talking about. Chatard is one of, if not the best D3 team in the state of indiana.

Iggy didn't play a D4 team.
Dematha has 1 loss, X.
Moeller? who had 2 very bad games this year?

DLS let a 6-3 team score 22 on them. That certainly doesn't seem like a #1 team's defense right there. AND ONLY beating a 4-4 team by 35 AT HOME. Of DLS's opponents only 5 have winning records. X's opponents only have 31 LOSSES COMBINED. TAKE AWAY THE TEN X WINS AND THEY ONLY HAVE 21 LOSSES. Those facts mean DLS sucks compared to X and the rest of the gcl, who by the way, went 21-5 vs non league competition. We are the top league in the country. CCL Blue is second... Where is the Bay Valley? 200something. yeah, DLS really gets tested every year. Wonder if that streak wouldve been what it is if Cali actually had a state championship game..... probably not. Bay Valley has a power rating of 20.4
GCL S has a power rating of 51. Our SoS is twice what yours is. just go away.
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DLS led Serra 41-0 at half, congrats to Serra for scoring 22 points (2 of them were 90!!! plus yard runs by their QB) against the DLS subs.


Kind of like DLS BLOWING out ELDER last year leading 49-18 after 3 Q until Elder scored 20 points against DLS third stringers

do some more research next time

a 4 team league us barely a league

its St X and the 3 dwarfs

wow

great league
 
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