General NFL Chat

Thavoice said:
Only because of the Swifties....
I tuned for the last couple of minues when the RedZone channel had to end coverage. If there is only 1 game left playing they have to sign offf so had to turn to CBS.
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The Ref Zine was great to watch Sunday 1pm with 11 games going. It’s a stimulus overdose but I love it.
 
WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
The Ref Zine was great to watch Sunday 1pm with 11 games going. It’s a stimulus overdose but I love it.
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It's all I watch and find viewing games the traditional way a bit boring....
7 hours of commercial free football starts....NOW.

Early window was lit.but the second with only 3 games...eh
 
The world turned upside down!

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Vikings off to a strong 3-0 start and back to back very impressive wins over SF and HOU. The Brian Flores D is kicking A and as long as Sam Darnold is content to get the ball to the playmakers instead of trying to force plays…which is the only if…it should a fun year for the purple.
 
So what is pass interference? One has to wonder who is behind these crappy NFL officiating calls and who is deciding who should win and who should lose? I know the Bengal player hit the receiver a little early but he was obviously going for the ball. The KC player is not even looking for the ball and actually TACKLING the receiver before the ball gets there. Can anyone logically explain why the KC player was not flagged for pass interference?

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MoeDude said:
So what is pass interference? One has to wonder who is behind these crappy NFL officiating calls and who is deciding who should win and who should lose? I know the Bengal player hit the receiver a little early but he was obviously going for the ball. The KC player is not even looking for the ball and actually TACKLING the receiver before the ball gets there. Can anyone logically explain why the KC player was not flagged for pass interference?

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MoeDude said:
So what is pass interference? One has to wonder who is behind these crappy NFL officiating calls and who is deciding who should win and who should lose? I know the Bengal player hit the receiver a little early but he was obviously going for the ball. The KC player is not even looking for the ball and actually TACKLING the receiver before the ball gets there. Can anyone logically explain why the KC player was not flagged for pass interference?

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This is becoming a problem for the NFL. Last night after that terrible no call which likely puts the Falcons up on the Chiefs late in the 4th quarter after getting a 1st & goal at the one the refs called THREE penalties on the Chiefs during the Falcons last drive. Do you think NY talked to the head ref? The NFL reputation for unbiased officiating is at real risk here and if they lose that presumption a lot of that TV viewership and betting money is going to dry up. I can take incompetence but this seems to be something else:
 
cabezadecaballo said:
Did not intend to insinuate that you had, just anticipating the disciplinary process.

Ever since the NFL decided to participate in NFL gambling, they've probably begun to further grease their own slide into Vince McMahon territory.
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It's not just NFL Gambling. With legalized gambling spreading into sports arenas and stadiums there will always be suspicion now when there are missed calls like in the KC Atlanta game. Sure Atlanta still had a chance but who is to say for sure. I predict in college or pro there will be another incident that will make the 1919 World Series look like child's play.
 
cabezadecaballo said:
Did not intend to insinuate that you had, just anticipating the disciplinary process.

Ever since the NFL decided to participate in NFL gambling, they've probably begun to further grease their own slide into Vince McMahon territory.
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I completely disagree with this. The NFL has had missed/blown calls long before the embrace of gambling and long before the adaption on replay. Officiating is flawed because it is done by humans. As long as humans are doing the officiating it wall always have a human element: people miss things & make mistakes. To say the NFL is sliding into Vince McMahon territory - not even close.

In order for gambling to work & make $$$ for the NFL there must be confidence by the bettor that the event (the game) is fair/legit. Will there be scandals? Absolutely. History says there has, is and will be scandals. Some scandals in sports:
* 1919 Chicago Whitesox
* 1960’s Green Bay Paul Horning
* 1980’s college basketball Boston College
* 1980’s Art Schlister & Pete Rose
* 2006 NBA official
* 2022 Tennis had two players ranked 600-ish and 950-ish banned a year and for life
* Europe soccer has had scandals.
* Horse racing always has scandal.

There will be more, they will be dealt with and gambling & the NFL will continue on.
 
AllSports12 said:
They're human. just like the players.

Mistakes are made every game by all parties involved.
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What a bunch of B.S. Playing football is much harder than officiating, very few Americans can play NFL football many could officiate, know the rules and be in position to make a call. NFL games are usually decided by a TD or less, that call last night may keep the Falcons out of the playoffs or give the NFL darlings the chiefs homefield advantage throughout the playoffs it is a big deal, a really big deal. So, it behooves the NFL to get the calls right. That was such a boneheaded miscall that A. The zebra is incompetent to do his job correctly or B. Something else. If it is A he should not be a zebra, not at the NFL level anyways. Lot of Americans are very passionate about football plus there is the betting so no mistakes like that "no call" should not happen and they happen too often.
 
I really don't understand how anyone can bet any significant amount of money on sports. There's so many chances, including officials to fix games. We see plays like this all the time, every week, some are called, some are not. Every other sports show and commercial on TV is about betting. It's just silly to think there isn't some kind of fix in games.
 
WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
I completely disagree with this. The NFL has had missed/blown calls long before the embrace of gambling and long before the adaption on replay. Officiating is flawed because it is done by humans. As long as humans are doing the officiating it wall always have a human element: people miss things & make mistakes. To say the NFL is sliding into Vince McMahon territory - not even close.

In order for gambling to work & make $$$ for the NFL there must be confidence by the bettor that the event (the game) is fair/legit. Will there be scandals? Absolutely. History says there has, is and will be scandals. Some scandals in sports:
* 1919 Chicago Whitesox
* 1960’s Green Bay Paul Horning
* 1980’s college basketball Boston College
* 1980’s Art Schlister & Pete Rose
* 2006 NBA official
* 2022 Tennis had two players ranked 600-ish and 950-ish banned a year and for life
* Europe soccer has had scandals.
* Horse racing always has scandal.

There will be more, they will be dealt with and gambling & the NFL will continue on.
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I think you're next group of scandals will be at the college level with the athletes. With NIL and the transfer portal, schools are buying players, players have more money in their pockets than ever. The risk of the youth thinking they can get away with it along with having money to bet will bring about shady deals, point shaving and other gambling issues. I said it when it was ok'd, NIL will be bad for college sports ultimatley.
 
14Red said:
I think you're next group of scandals will be at the college level with the athletes. With NIL and the transfer portal, schools are buying players, players have more money in their pockets than ever. The risk of the youth thinking they can get away with it along with having money to bet will bring about shady deals, point shaving and other gambling issues. I said it when it was ok'd, NIL will be bad for college sports ultimatley.
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College sports has always had scandals. College football & basketball - did you think everything was ok when the coaches were making millions, the university is promoting games with plays NIL & making millions, administrators are making 6 and 7 figures while the players were getting tuition & room and board?

Good, no great for the players to get their $$$.
 
WJ-OSU-STEELERS said:
I completely disagree with this. The NFL has had missed/blown calls long before the embrace of gambling and long before the adaption on replay. Officiating is flawed because it is done by humans. As long as humans are doing the officiating it wall always have a human element: people miss things & make mistakes. To say the NFL is sliding into Vince McMahon territory - not even close.

In order for gambling to work & make $$$ for the NFL there must be confidence by the bettor that the event (the game) is fair/legit. Will there be scandals? Absolutely. History says there has, is and will be scandals. Some scandals in sports:
* 1919 Chicago Whitesox
* 1960’s Green Bay Paul Horning
* 1980’s college basketball Boston College
* 1980’s Art Schlister & Pete Rose
* 2006 NBA official
* 2022 Tennis had two players ranked 600-ish and 950-ish banned a year and for life
* Europe soccer has had scandals.
* Horse racing always has scandal.

There will be more, they will be dealt with and gambling & the NFL will continue on.
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Perception is everything.
 
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