Dublin Coffman Rocks 2020

bigkat

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Yes an amazing sight ,especially after the year we’ve had . Loved the scenery as well . Ryder cup held there “. The war at the shore” . I was pulling for Watson big time myself . Nicklaus winning the Masters footage is always chill inducing .
i really enjoyed every hole..... it was great TV
 

Harrycrane

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i really enjoyed every hole..... it was great TV


Yes it was , the wife had some ideas of socializing on Sunday outside away from a TV. Saturday night I told her that I would be inside watching golf from roughly 3 to 7 . If Mickelson wasn't in it ? I am not sitting inside from 3 to 7 lol. Too good a story and a potentially historical happening. Also, a fan of Lefty. Good lesson in perseverance for people of all ages. He had a couple years of futility. He was out of the top 20 in many consecutive tourneys. He pressed on with enthusiasm and kept working at it . Remade his body at 50 . Looks in much better shape than he was in his late 30's. Still cranking it long down fairways. More flexible now. Looks great . All the work culminated in his winning a major on an audacious track that was as long as a day living in Reseda .

Phil like many of the greats is a 'Gym rat", a grinder . Guys like Michael Jordan , Larry Bird and in the more modern era Steph Curry are notorious 'gym rats" to name just a few . He purposefully trained by playing practice rounds of 36 holes or more to make 18 seem like a short casual Friday. He controlled his breathing and moved around the course in a measured slowness that conserved every ounce of energy that he may need later. His shot from the shorter rough on the edge of the fairway was that last shot he had to make to ensure a sure two putt to win it . He executed that shot flawlessly and then he and Brooks got a little more familiar with the crowd. Surreal . Had never seen a crowd get that close to a golfer as he walked up that last fairway to the 18th green to win a tourney . Chills.


Also was watching some College lacrosse as the quarterfinals were being played at Notre Dame . Two former Coffman players and leaders from that great 2019 group that won a state title were playing in the games . Both guys teams lost by a goal one in OT dashing the hopes of their teams meeting in the final 4. Evan James was a force for Loyola MD. in their OT loss to Duke and Nick Harris played for Notre Dame in their narrow loss to Maryland. What a great team that was. Speaking of Lacrosse , this year's team just beat Liberty to advance to the state quarterfinals . Big win as they had lost to them in the regular season by 4 goals, I believe . 11-10 nail biter with Liberty gamely coming back from 5 down , but couldn't get over the hump. Great Job by the Rocks .

Every so often I go to you tube and watch parts of an old football game from say the 70's 80's or 90's and it is always a bit jarring to see just how far advanced the Quarterbacks are now . Completion percentages were often in the 40's back then. Lower TD- INT ratios . Footwork , polish and accuracy was nothing like it is today. Of course, like anything else , it's all about the reps. There weren't 7 on 7's, as many quarterback camps and so called 'guru's and private teachers. Different world . Release points , quickness in the release , weight transfer , you name it , many QB's were lacking in these fundamentals. Accuracy suffered obviously. Kids simply put a lot more time into it now at younger ages. More is available to them. Weight training has evolved. Speed and agility coaches exist now. Receivers can be tutored and learn nuance in High school.

Kids are bigger obviously now as all of us in their 40's 50's and beyond know. But the level of instruction or personal training that is available is so much greater. Kids do develop 'Earlier", but do they 'Peak" earlier? It is a complex dynamic to be sure. Of course, doing some good work , and being taught by good coaches is invaluable. Learning fundamentals is a must for attaining future success.

Getting stronger and a bit bigger is going to help performance obviously. But at what point are kids overtraining ? How many hours should 14–17-year olds be putting in ? How fanatical should they be? How specialized should they become and at what age? Of course, at the college level there is a notion that some Alabama guys 'Peak" and every ounce of ability and potential has bene tapped into and what you see at 22 is kind of what you are going to get at the next level? Happens sometimes . Sometimes not. Some HS kids are training like Ivan Drago.

Pushing themselves { Or being pushed to } beyond the normal limits. I am not trying to say that kids shouldn't put some serious time into their activities . But the early specialization, the quitting of a second sport so they can lift and train for their main sort more manically can be counterproductive IMO. I have seen kids burn out in soccer, quit football to play fall lacrosse , basketball and baseball.

Some Kids are working so hard and for so many hours that they are losing their enthusiasm BEFORE they get to college . Every kid is wired differently of course and have different motivation levels. The earlier skill development , the added resources and coaching improvements and advances is a good thing . Don't misunderstand , but it must be said that there is a tipping point. Having sports become a 'Job" at 15- 16 years old can be counterproductive to success and enthusiasm for that sport down the road. Putting in the work is a good thing . Focused improvement is key to greater success. Life is about getting reps, growing , learning from mistakes and experience and improving. But it must be kept in mind that there has to be some fun involved, some room for added enthusiasm and focus down the road. Having an all-consuming maniacal approach as a younger teen can lead to a lack of passion and enthusiasm later on . The process seems to be rushed now, how early you develop is seen as some kind of goal and victory . It's often misguided. Kids need to be kids at some level. There is a tipping point .
 
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bigkat

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Yes it was , the wife had some ideas of socializing on Sunday outside away from a TV. Saturday night I told her that I would be inside watching golf from roughly 3 to 7 . If Mickelson wasn't in it ? I am not sitting inside from 3 to 7 lol. Too good a story and a potentially historical happening. Also, a fan of Lefty. Good lesson in perseverance for people of all ages. He had a couple years of futility. He was out of the top 20 in many consecutive tourneys. He pressed on with enthusiasm and kept working at it . Remade his body at 50 . Looks in much better shape than he was in his late 30's. Still cranking it long down fairways. More flexible now. Looks great . All the work culminated in his winning a major on an audacious track that was as long as a day living in Reseda .

Phil like many of the greats is a 'Gym rat", a grinder . Guys like Michael Jordan , Larry Bird and in the more modern era Steph Curry are notorious 'gym rats" to name just a few . He purposefully trained by playing practice rounds of 36 holes or more to make 18 seem like a short casual Friday. He controlled his breathing and moved around the course in a measured slowness that conserved every ounce of energy that he may need later. His shot from the shorter rough on the edge of the fairway was that last shot he had to make to ensure a sure two putt to win it . He executed that shot flawlessly and then he and Brooks got a little more familiar with the crowd. Surreal . Had never seen a crowd get that close to a golfer as he walked up that last fairway to the 18th green to win a tourney . Chills.


Also was watching some College lacrosse as the quarterfinals were being played at Notre Dame . Two former Coffman players and leaders from that great 2019 group that won a state title were playing in the games . Both guys teams lost by a goal one in OT dashing the hopes of their teams meeting in the final 4. Evan James was a force for Loyola MD. in their OT loss to Duke and Nick Harris played for Notre Dame in their narrow loss to Maryland. What a great team that was. Speaking of Lacrosse , this year's team just beat Liberty to advance to the state quarterfinals . Big win as they had lost to them in the regular season by 4 goals, I believe . 11-10 nail biter with Liberty gamely coming back from 5 down , but couldn't get over the hump. Great Job by the Rocks .

Every so often I go to you tube and watch parts of an old football game from say the 70's 80's or 90's and it is always a bit jarring to see just how far advanced the Quarterbacks are now . Completion percentages were often in the 40's back then. Lower TD- INT ratios . Footwork , polish and accuracy was nothing like it is today. Of course, like anything else , it's all about the reps. There weren't 7 on 7's, as many quarterback camps and so called 'guru's and private teachers. Different world . Release points , quickness in the release , weight transfer , you name it , many QB's were lacking in these fundamentals. Accuracy suffered obviously. Kids simply put a lot more time into it now at younger ages. More is available to them. Weight training has evolved. Speed and agility coaches exist now. Receivers can be tutored and learn nuance in High school.

Kids are bigger obviously now as all of us in their 40's 50's and beyond know. But the level of instruction or personal training that is available is so much greater. Kids do develop 'Earlier", but do they 'Peak" earlier? It is a complex dynamic to be sure. Of course, doing some good work , and being taught by good coaches is invaluable. Learning fundamentals is a must for attaining future success.

Getting stronger and a bit bigger is going to help performance obviously. But at what point are kids overtraining ? How many hours should 14–17-year olds be putting in ? How fanatical should they be? How specialized should they become and at what age? Of course, at the college level there is a notion that some Alabama guys 'Peak" and every ounce of ability and potential has bene tapped into and what you see at 22 is kind of what you are going to get at the next level? Happens sometimes . Sometimes not. Some HS kids are training like Ivan Drago.

Pushing themselves { Or being pushed to } beyond the normal limits. I am not trying to say that kids shouldn't put some serious time into their activities . But the early specialization, the quitting of a second sport so they can lift and train for their main sort more manically can be counterproductive IMO. I have seen kids burn out in soccer, quit football to play fall lacrosse , basketball and baseball.

Some Kids are working so hard and for so many hours that they are losing their enthusiasm BEFORE they get to college . Every kid is wired differently of course and have different motivation levels. The earlier skill development , the added resources and coaching improvements and advances is a good thing . Don't misunderstand , but it must be said that there is a tipping point. Having sports become a 'Job" at 15- 16 years old can be counterproductive to success and enthusiasm for that sport down the road. Putting in the work is a good thing . Focused improvement is key to greater success. Life is about getting reps, growing , learning from mistakes and experience and improving. But it must be kept in mind that there has to be some fun involved, some room for added enthusiasm and focus down the road. Having an all-consuming maniacal approach as a younger teen can lead to a lack of passion and enthusiasm later on . The process seems to be rushed now, how early you develop is seen as some kind of goal and victory . It's often misguided. Kids need to be kids at some level. There is a tipping point .
you know he talked about two things that have made the difference, his meditation and also getting the inflamation out of his body( like Tom Brady) .... being a old guy , i"m doing some research on that----(DIET, getting rid of sugars) .....
 

Harrycrane

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you know he talked about two things that have made the difference, his meditation and also getting the inflamation out of his body( like Tom Brady) .... being a old guy , i"m doing some research on that----(DIET, getting rid of sugars) .....
Good points , I wouldn't think he can win another one , BUT then again he as oppsed to the few others who came 'close" to winning some at advanced ages, his transformation so to speak is more pronounced. Despite a long period of failure he has kept up his focus with the same enthusiasm , culminating in his putting it all together on Sunday . I think he can contend in another one or even two in the next couple years.

Thanks for the props from a few of the guys who went with us , picking a couple spots in the NBA play-offs, with two teams down 1-0 and short favs { - 2} in game two's .Nuggets pummeled the Trailblazers on Monday and the Lakers got the 7point win to even up that series with Phoenix. Laid off the Clippers which feels like a win. 4-1 start to the play-offs . Philadelphia - 8 looks very good as I think they handle the Wizards again , but by a handful of points more. Wizards shot 55 percent from the field and 40 percent on the deep balls and STILL lost by 7 . Think this one is decided by about 12-15 with the Sixers playing better defensively.


Really tempting to play Utah { - 8.5} in a similar spot as the Lakers and Nuggets , BUT Memphis has simply been too good as an underdog in the last 13 games covering 11 of them and winning 8 outright.
 
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Harrycrane

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Getting closer to the start of the season as the last few months have flown by as the country starts getting more back to normal with a greater level of immunity . Never start the new season's thread too early as in some years I haven't been sure I am going to post enough to have the thread . I know that sounds weird seeing as I post quite a bit in season { Not as much now going as while between posts. } but including this year , I am not sure if I am going to do it again. Enough to justify a year's thread heading . So as we get top the second week of June the season and camp is getting close enough so you can actually see it in the distant horizon and feel it . NFL caps are about 5-6 weeks away . HS kids have enough time to get that last bit of work in { about 6 weeks} and train intensely where they can feel prepared mentally and physically for camp and the rigors of the season.


In the years I've followed Coffman football , this up coming season is without a doubt the biggest rebuild I have seen. This is the most uncertainty heading into a season. In every other year I have had some kind of idea how the team may be . Some years more of an idea than others of course but you could pretty consistently gauge how the team was going to do . Consistency is the first word that came to mind during the Crabtree era. Usually a few D-1 kids, and a program strong enough to have role players every year do their jobs well enough to complement them, Always a better than average QB . Sometimes better than that. This year they have the QB who is better than average . He will be the 4th- Senior 1st year starting QB in the last 6 seasons. They lose their entire starting O-Line for the first time that I can remember [ Has to be pre-date my following} . A couple receivers who played full time come back . First time I can remember that they don't have even ONE definite D-1 player . They have a handful of guys on defense that saw significant snaps including 3 full time starters back { 2 in the front 4} and another one who would have but missed the season. { Injury}

Then of course you have a new coaching staff. A couple of Crabtree's staff will remain to help the transition. Stokes brings his right hand man at Minster with him to coach the defense . Some around town think the team will be better than some others think , and some think it will be a tough year. Stokes is a tremendous leader. The team will be well coached and be tough mentally and physically. It will take time . Stokes is involved in a blog with Centerville basketball coach Brook Cupps { won the state title this year} that I recommend people go to get a bit of a better understanding of who Stokes is and what his beliefs on leadership and team building are. It's next level leadership stuff that is uncommon.

I enjoyed rifling through the posts that go back about a year or so and seeing some of the things that I saw in some of my best coaches growing up and some of the things that I learned and were covered in some of the leadership workshops and seminars I have gone through as an adult over the years . Excited to see this new era with an exceptional leader who is always striving to learn and grow . Doesn't claim to have everything figured out and knows the Process is life long . Success and growth is never linear . It can go sideways sometimes and that doesn't equal failure . It equals a chance to get back up and learn . The name of the blog , is 'blue collar grit " and I will have some thoughts on it shortly.
 

Rambo1980

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Getting closer to the start of the season as the last few months have flown by as the country starts getting more back to normal with a greater level of immunity . Never start the new season's thread too early as in some years I haven't been sure I am going to post enough to have the thread . I know that sounds weird seeing as I post quite a bit in season { Not as much now going as while between posts. } but including this year , I am not sure if I am going to do it again. Enough to justify a year's thread heading . So as we get top the second week of June the season and camp is getting close enough so you can actually see it in the distant horizon and feel it . NFL caps are about 5-6 weeks away . HS kids have enough time to get that last bit of work in { about 6 weeks} and train intensely where they can feel prepared mentally and physically for camp and the rigors of the season.


In the years I've followed Coffman football , this up coming season is without a doubt the biggest rebuild I have seen. This is the most uncertainty heading into a season. In every other year I have had some kind of idea how the team may be . Some years more of an idea than others of course but you could pretty consistently gauge how the team was going to do . Consistency is the first word that came to mind during the Crabtree era. Usually a few D-1 kids, and a program strong enough to have role players every year do their jobs well enough to complement them, Always a better than average QB . Sometimes better than that. This year they have the QB who is better than average . He will be the 4th- Senior 1st year starting QB in the last 6 seasons. They lose their entire starting O-Line for the first time that I can remember [ Has to be pre-date my following} . A couple receivers who played full time come back . First time I can remember that they don't have even ONE definite D-1 player . They have a handful of guys on defense that saw significant snaps including 3 full time starters back { 2 in the front 4} and another one who would have but missed the season. { Injury}

Then of course you have a new coaching staff. A couple of Crabtree's staff will remain to help the transition. Stokes brings his right hand man at Minster with him to coach the defense . Some around town think the team will be better than some others think , and some think it will be a tough year. Stokes is a tremendous leader. The team will be well coached and be tough mentally and physically. It will take time . Stokes is involved in a blog with Centerville basketball coach Brook Cupps { won the state title this year} that I recommend people go to get a bit of a better understanding of who Stokes is and what his beliefs on leadership and team building are. It's next level leadership stuff that is uncommon.

I enjoyed rifling through the posts that go back about a year or so and seeing some of the things that I saw in some of my best coaches growing up and some of the things that I learned and were covered in some of the leadership workshops and seminars I have gone through as an adult over the years . Excited to see this new era with an exceptional leader who is always striving to learn and grow . Doesn't claim to have everything figured out and knows the Process is life long . Success and growth is never linear . It can go sideways sometimes and that doesn't equal failure . It equals a chance to get back up and learn . The name of the blog , is 'blue collar grit " and I will have some thoughts on it shortly.
What’s the name of the blog?
 

HardCorps

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Yes it was , the wife had some ideas of socializing on Sunday outside away from a TV. Saturday night I told her that I would be inside watching golf from roughly 3 to 7 . If Mickelson wasn't in it ? I am not sitting inside from 3 to 7 lol. Too good a story and a potentially historical happening. Also, a fan of Lefty. Good lesson in perseverance for people of all ages. He had a couple years of futility. He was out of the top 20 in many consecutive tourneys. He pressed on with enthusiasm and kept working at it . Remade his body at 50 . Looks in much better shape than he was in his late 30's. Still cranking it long down fairways. More flexible now. Looks great . All the work culminated in his winning a major on an audacious track that was as long as a day living in Reseda .

Phil like many of the greats is a 'Gym rat", a grinder . Guys like Michael Jordan , Larry Bird and in the more modern era Steph Curry are notorious 'gym rats" to name just a few . He purposefully trained by playing practice rounds of 36 holes or more to make 18 seem like a short casual Friday. He controlled his breathing and moved around the course in a measured slowness that conserved every ounce of energy that he may need later. His shot from the shorter rough on the edge of the fairway was that last shot he had to make to ensure a sure two putt to win it . He executed that shot flawlessly and then he and Brooks got a little more familiar with the crowd. Surreal . Had never seen a crowd get that close to a golfer as he walked up that last fairway to the 18th green to win a tourney . Chills.


Also was watching some College lacrosse as the quarterfinals were being played at Notre Dame . Two former Coffman players and leaders from that great 2019 group that won a state title were playing in the games . Both guys teams lost by a goal one in OT dashing the hopes of their teams meeting in the final 4. Evan James was a force for Loyola MD. in their OT loss to Duke and Nick Harris played for Notre Dame in their narrow loss to Maryland. What a great team that was. Speaking of Lacrosse , this year's team just beat Liberty to advance to the state quarterfinals . Big win as they had lost to them in the regular season by 4 goals, I believe . 11-10 nail biter with Liberty gamely coming back from 5 down , but couldn't get over the hump. Great Job by the Rocks .

Every so often I go to you tube and watch parts of an old football game from say the 70's 80's or 90's and it is always a bit jarring to see just how far advanced the Quarterbacks are now . Completion percentages were often in the 40's back then. Lower TD- INT ratios . Footwork , polish and accuracy was nothing like it is today. Of course, like anything else , it's all about the reps. There weren't 7 on 7's, as many quarterback camps and so called 'guru's and private teachers. Different world . Release points , quickness in the release , weight transfer , you name it , many QB's were lacking in these fundamentals. Accuracy suffered obviously. Kids simply put a lot more time into it now at younger ages. More is available to them. Weight training has evolved. Speed and agility coaches exist now. Receivers can be tutored and learn nuance in High school.

Kids are bigger obviously now as all of us in their 40's 50's and beyond know. But the level of instruction or personal training that is available is so much greater. Kids do develop 'Earlier", but do they 'Peak" earlier? It is a complex dynamic to be sure. Of course, doing some good work , and being taught by good coaches is invaluable. Learning fundamentals is a must for attaining future success.

Getting stronger and a bit bigger is going to help performance obviously. But at what point are kids overtraining ? How many hours should 14–17-year olds be putting in ? How fanatical should they be? How specialized should they become and at what age? Of course, at the college level there is a notion that some Alabama guys 'Peak" and every ounce of ability and potential has bene tapped into and what you see at 22 is kind of what you are going to get at the next level? Happens sometimes . Sometimes not. Some HS kids are training like Ivan Drago.

Pushing themselves { Or being pushed to } beyond the normal limits. I am not trying to say that kids shouldn't put some serious time into their activities . But the early specialization, the quitting of a second sport so they can lift and train for their main sort more manically can be counterproductive IMO. I have seen kids burn out in soccer, quit football to play fall lacrosse , basketball and baseball.

Some Kids are working so hard and for so many hours that they are losing their enthusiasm BEFORE they get to college . Every kid is wired differently of course and have different motivation levels. The earlier skill development , the added resources and coaching improvements and advances is a good thing . Don't misunderstand , but it must be said that there is a tipping point. Having sports become a 'Job" at 15- 16 years old can be counterproductive to success and enthusiasm for that sport down the road. Putting in the work is a good thing . Focused improvement is key to greater success. Life is about getting reps, growing , learning from mistakes and experience and improving. But it must be kept in mind that there has to be some fun involved, some room for added enthusiasm and focus down the road. Having an all-consuming maniacal approach as a younger teen can lead to a lack of passion and enthusiasm later on . The process seems to be rushed now, how early you develop is seen as some kind of goal and victory . It's often misguided. Kids need to be kids at some level. There is a tipping point .
I like watching the good college football games from the 90s. In particular I enjoy watching the Nebraska teams from 94/95. They just punished the opposition s as Nd made few mistakes. As great as Tommie Frazier was he could not throw.
 

Harrycrane

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Every once in a while, something will just pop into your head that you hadn't thought about for a while. It could just be a person in general , a conversation or an idea. With Coffman not only rebuilding , but having a new coach , a short conversation with a coach I had in 6th grade was remembered. The coach was a former player at the HS in our town and part of the new coach's first two teams. He was telling us that we were lucky to be part of something that was going to be special .

He was telling us this as we were at a game on a Sunday scouting the 7th grade{ B team} opponent of our B team the next week. He was saying that his two years with coach was the transition. Things weren't in place yet. He said that by the time we got up there , the program would be a force. He said that while we had good athletes and good kids, it would be the 'program "that would be the difference. We were learning the basic offense{ Wing T} and defensive schemes that we would eventually use to a degree later.

He was too early to have the program get to the point it would when we got up there. Scouting , running the same system from 5th grade on , better practice habits, a better staff etc. would be the key . He was going to coach HARD . Be interested in building the program by training the players from an earlier age and that the continuity would reap rewards. Hes aid that our teams would be better than the ones he played on and that it would be the 'Program" that would sustain success. You need the players , but the real strength was going to be in the level of the coaching we got and the program would be the key.

I also remembered our defensive coordinator saying out loud{ He would become a HC a couple years later at another school and win 3 state titles and become a legendary hall of fame coach } that he really needed only a couple 'ballplayers " { His term for difference makers or playmakers} on defense, build arou9nd their strengths and the rest of the guys would be mentally and physically tough kids who would always line up right do what they were supposed to do , and he would have a good defense. Throw a bit more talent in and he would have a great defense . He was right . When he got 3 D-1 kids and a couple 1-AA kids on defense one year , no one really scored on us, including a team with 5 D-1 and a couple 1-AA kids with a huge O-Line with every player eventually playing in college. {They got 13 points} .

Attention to detail, always knowing what we were supposed to be doing { Never once felt unprepared or unsure about what i was supposed to be doing before a game from 7th grade on } .

Stokes is building the Coffman program from closer to scratch than can be imagined. It was the end of an era . 20 seasons and 19 of them saw the program win at least 7 games . Very good talent overall . Coaching continuity . The core values that coach Stokes has is the main reason I believe he got the job. I was impressed immediately and said so straight away after a very quick look at what he was about .

I felt it was going to be hard to not give him the job . His leadership skills have been cultivated and sharpened by making intentional choices to learn and work on them. That process never ends . You never have it fully figured out.

As I have said I recognized some of his core values and what he thinks are the keys to strong leadership and team building from personal experience over the years in practice and seminars , workshops etc. A couple of the concepts of the blog I read stuck out were the basic ones. It goes into a pretty deep dive with some more advanced team building dynamics.

Embracing the process. Learning to enjoy it. Purposeful improvement, and taking action to improve. Ownership , taking responsibility , accountability , with coaches taking the ultimate responsibility of guiding and leading and taking responsibility.

Excellence vs success. Success is fleeting and can't be trusted but overall excellence is more enduring . The standard is the standard { We do what we do} 80-20 rule. You get the bulk of the results and success from the key 20 percent you do and practice. So you practice and pay attention to this 20 percent and you will thrive. Control the controllable and keep things simple. Process over results.

Positive body language , picking up teammates , becoming a closer team through sharing vulnerability and being uncomfortable. Real lasting ideals that eventually build that trust in each other that leads to common people achieving uncommon results. Real smart in depth leadership concepts that build strong successful teams . And really give a blueprint to the players for lasting sustainable success as people in whatever they do .

We all remember a few things here and there that a former coach and teacher might have said that has bene helpful . I hope Coach Stokes get to teach his leadership class at Coffman. Be a favorite for sure and beneficial for student's long term. Confidence is about more than previously demonstrated ability , it's more about confidence in the process of getting towards excellence
and getting to the standard. Limited options of behavior and doing what it takes to get there. Embracing the 'It takes what it takes " principle and that process becoming innate. If you've ever gotten to this point as a team member in any capacity, it is really special . I think the Coffman program and school got a tremendous leader in Coach Stokes.

Lastly congrats to the Girls Lacrosse state title winners who beat two team they had previously lost to on their way to ultimate victory. Losing by 12 to UA and 11 to New Albany just a month or so ago and beating both in the tournament was quite the feat and a testament to improvement and sticking to it without losing confidence . beating 4 time defending champ UA in the regional final and then after edging Loveland in the Semi , beat a excellent NA team at the buzzer after being up most of the game , only to see NA score two in the closing minutes to tie it , the Lady Rocks went about 60 yards downfield in 6 seconds and set up a shot right before the buzzer to win their first state title over a team that handled them just a month before. Great stuff.

Also a shout out to the girls 4 by 800 relay team that got second at the state meet edging third place finishing Hilliard Davidson who had beaten them out at Regionals but a couple seconds. Rocks steadily improved their times by a large margin the last couple weeks . Another example of finishing strong and showing great improvement without losing confidence. Sticking with the process and finishing strong .
 

WJ-OSU-STEELERS

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Harry - I think you may have exaggerated a bit when you said "Stokes is building the Coffman program from closer to scratch than can be imagined."

Building a program from scratch would be taking over a Westland, Franklin Heights, Thomas Worthington…….you know the schools. Dublin does not have any Section 8 housing, trailer parks, probably less than 5% of the kids on the free lunch program - there is not economic problems to deal with. Yes, good people unfortunately fall into these situations and great kids/people rise out of them but it’s difficult to win football games if a large percentage of your players are living in these conditions. I believe Dublin has a few more people (administration, parents, community 'leaders') who will believe they know more about the football team than the coach but every community has a few of these people - some schools more than others. I think this will be Stoke’s greatest obstacle.
 

Harrycrane

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Harry - I think you may have exaggerated a bit when you said "Stokes is building the Coffman program from closer to scratch than can be imagined."

Building a program from scratch would be taking over a Westland, Franklin Heights, Thomas Worthington…….you know the schools. Dublin does not have any Section 8 housing, trailer parks, probably less than 5% of the kids on the free lunch program - there is not economic problems to deal with. Yes, good people unfortunately fall into these situations and great kids/people rise out of them but it’s difficult to win football games if a large percentage of your players are living in these conditions. I believe Dublin has a few more people (administration, parents, community 'leaders') who will believe they know more about the football team than the coach but every community has a few of these people - some schools more than others. I think this will be Stoke’s greatest obstacle.
I meant to say than you MIGHT imagine. He is building it in HIS image and this is a new era and in his first year there is less experience . I said that because there is a stark difference in the coaching style and the talent level at this moment . Of course he isn't rebuilding a long time losing program that is in a poor community { Less than affluent communities with below average academic performance CAN AND DO win big. You know some of the schools that I am talking about. He got Minster to a different level than they had been in a few years before he got there He didn't really struggle until this year when the talent dipped there. Have talked for the last couple years of how programs runs usually don't extend beyond a certain point . Minster has no economic hardships either. Affluent suburbs have runs and have to rebuild a bit eventually . Happens all the time . Well off communities often struggle for long periods of time in football . Or they go on runs and then fall off . Not sure how many people tell the coach what to do and think they know more than he does. I don't see that being much of a problem to be honest. If it was such a mess at Coffman as some trolls suggest , you don't win consistently for 20 years . This IS A NEW ERA. This IS A REBUILDING YEAR . This could be a 2-3 year rebuild .
 
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