clarkgriswold
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They've again restructured Watson's contract, converting some of the money to a signing bonus, freeing up some salary cap.
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WJ-OSU-STEELERS
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Well, the Browns went from being about $20 mil over the 2025 cap to now having $12.5 mil in cap space. The updated cap number for Watson:
2025 - $36.9 mil cap hit
2026 - $81.6 mil
2027 - $28.2 mil
2028 - $17.9 mil
2029 - $8.9 mil
Watson is a free agent after the 2027 season so his cap hit currently extends 2 years past. The Browns will have no choice but to do the same thing next year to reduce the $81.6 mil cap hit.
It’s a contract that just keeps giving and not in a good way.
WJ-OSU-STEELERS
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Excellent article about the amount of $$$ that still needs to hit the cap on Watson’s contract
www.nbcsports.com
Latest Deshaun Watson restructuring leaves $135 million in cap charges for future years
When it comes to arguably the single-worst transaction in NFL history, the Browns keep kicking the salary-cap can.
www.nbcsports.com
underthelights
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Excellent article about the amount of $$$ that still needs to hit the cap on Watson’s contract
Latest Deshaun Watson restructuring leaves $135 million in cap charges for future years
When it comes to arguably the single-worst transaction in NFL history, the Browns keep kicking the salary-cap can.
clarkgriswold
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He's going to end up with contract payments longer than Bobby Bonilla.
OhioBobcatFan06
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Exactly the opposite.
The longer the Browns extend Watson, the more the NFL cap goes up and the less those $ figures actually matter
Browns understand how inflation works
The recent reports could lead one to believe that either the Browns are planning to draft Sanders or are sending up a huge smokescreen:
With Sanders in the spotlight more than any NFL quarterback prospect in recent memory, it's led to conflicting rumors about the budding star. Longtime NFL reporter Josina Anderson first reported that one team's quarterbacks coach said Sanders came off as "brash" and "arrogant."
This was followed by NBC Sports' Matthew Berry reporting that two people from different teams called the quarterback "unprofessional" and "disinterested" during their meetings.
Numerous analysts and media members have come to the defense of Sanders, and other teams have also offered positive reviews of the expected top-10 pick.
One of those teams is the Cleveland Browns.
As Cabot reported, the Browns specifically left the meeting "impressed" with Sanders and "didn't find him to be arrogant or brash."
"The Browns first met with Sanders one-on-one at the East-West Shrine Bowl in January and came away impressed. They didn’t find him to be arrogant or brash, but confident and engaging," Cabot explained.
"Kevin Stefanski also received a glowing report on him from his former Vikings colleague Pat Shurmur, the former Browns head coach who spent the past two years as Sanders’ OC at Colorado."
With Sanders in the spotlight more than any NFL quarterback prospect in recent memory, it's led to conflicting rumors about the budding star. Longtime NFL reporter Josina Anderson first reported that one team's quarterbacks coach said Sanders came off as "brash" and "arrogant."
This was followed by NBC Sports' Matthew Berry reporting that two people from different teams called the quarterback "unprofessional" and "disinterested" during their meetings.
Numerous analysts and media members have come to the defense of Sanders, and other teams have also offered positive reviews of the expected top-10 pick.
One of those teams is the Cleveland Browns.
As Cabot reported, the Browns specifically left the meeting "impressed" with Sanders and "didn't find him to be arrogant or brash."
"The Browns first met with Sanders one-on-one at the East-West Shrine Bowl in January and came away impressed. They didn’t find him to be arrogant or brash, but confident and engaging," Cabot explained.
"Kevin Stefanski also received a glowing report on him from his former Vikings colleague Pat Shurmur, the former Browns head coach who spent the past two years as Sanders’ OC at Colorado."
I don’t believe almost anything I read during draft season … some could be true … most are just smoke screens!
Haslam declines requested meeting with Garrett.
www.usatoday.com
Browns owner Jimmy Haslam declined meeting with DE Myles Garrett, reports say
Browns DE Myles Garrett requested a meeting with team owner Jimmy Haslam after making a trade request. That meeting was declined, reports say.
www.usatoday.com
OldSoulon
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I watched Stephen A. talking about trade partners for the Browns if they trade Garrett.
He listed Buffalo, Philly, Detroit, and Dallas.
They better offer a couple first round picks AND two starters.
Garrett won’t have any say as to where he is traded. I’d trade him to Carolina or the Giants.
He listed Buffalo, Philly, Detroit, and Dallas.
They better offer a couple first round picks AND two starters.
Garrett won’t have any say as to where he is traded. I’d trade him to Carolina or the Giants.
OldSoulon
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Not a big Haslem fan, but he did the right thing here.Haslam declines requested meeting with Garrett.
Browns owner Jimmy Haslam declined meeting with DE Myles Garrett, reports say
Browns DE Myles Garrett requested a meeting with team owner Jimmy Haslam after making a trade request. That meeting was declined, reports say.
WJ-OSU-STEELERS
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You are not getting two 1st rounders and a couple of starters. Anyone who trades for Garrett needs to have the cap space to extend him for 3+ years and $100+ million with most of it guaranteed.
A 2025 1st and probably a 2026 3rd that can become a 2nd or 1st based on 2025 production is more likely.
OldSoulon
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Then I would let him sit out.
clarkgriswold
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Another part of the Garrett trade will likely be a contract extension with the new team as teams will not pay a premium for him unless they know he's there for the long term.
If the Browns are dead set on not trading him, they're fools. Everybody is tradable for the right price. I suspect they're saying they won't trade him to increase the offers, counterbalancing the decrease in his trade value caused by him saying he wanted out. Then again, maybe they're not that smart.
If the Browns are dead set on not trading him, they're fools. Everybody is tradable for the right price. I suspect they're saying they won't trade him to increase the offers, counterbalancing the decrease in his trade value caused by him saying he wanted out. Then again, maybe they're not that smart.
WJ-OSU-STEELERS
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I would think the best value is to trade him before this years draft to get a 1st rd pick this year. Waiting until after this year’s draft only leads to Garrett becoming disgruntled and hurting his trade value.
clarkgriswold
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Geno Smith to the Raiders could mean they're no longer looking to move up.
y2h
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I don't understand all the talk of trading him to these contending teams. The return will be garbage at the bottom of the round. If they are going to trade him it needs to be to a bottom feeding team that will result in a high pick.
y2h
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A HOF in his prime with 2 years of control? The bidding starts at 2 1st. Anything else is a waste of time.
y2h
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They are fools if they trade him. He's a centerpiece of the team. What are you going to do with the pick you get in the trade...draft Myles Garrett. You have him, build around him.
cjb5656
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Jimmy is a multi billionaire. He’s ungodly wealthy whether Myles ever plays again. Myles is wealthy, but he only has so many of these prime earning years left. He would be a fool to sit out a season in protest. Ask LeVeon Bell how smart it is to waste a season of your prime.
clarkgriswold
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cjb5656
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A lot of Browns fans are not thrilled with the idea of the Browns drafting Sanders to play QB. Scouts are a little mixed on him too. But what if Cam Ward is there for the Browns when it’s their turn? Does Ward excite the fan base? I think it would. A new QB always sparks interest and optimism. Ward looks the part of a franchise QB more than Sanders.
Scratch one team out of the possibility of trading up for a qb.
www.si.com
Seahawks Trade Geno Smith to Raiders, Reuniting Him With Coach Pete Carroll
The two-time Pro Bowler is reportedly on the move.
www.si.com
Ward has tons of arm talent … probably the most physically gifted of all the prospects … not sure he is a perfect fit for Stefanski’s offense … but hopefully that could be worked out … the good and bad is he reminds me of Jameis Winston … Winston can all the throws an NFL team would want (and so can Ward) and looks good for most of the game … but as most of you know … he will also make a few head scratching throws as well (and so does Ward) … if fact, IMO Winston would be a good backup if they draft Ward … similar skill set. The question with Ward is will he be good Jameis or bad Jameis … or both … or can Stefanski coach the bad out of him???
Wildcat97
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No thanks on both
Guess who the Browns are interested in perhaps drafting at running back?
NFL teams are noticing, especially the Cleveland Browns. They’ve shown interest in Skattebo, and it’s easy to understand why. The Browns are looking to enhance their offense, and with Skattebo’s size, vision, and speed, he might be the perfect fit.
As Cam Skattebo continues to generate buzz, it’s clear that his future in the NFL is full of exciting possibilities. Whether he ends up with the Cleveland Browns, the Arizona Cardinals, or another team, one thing’s for sure—his skills and determination are impossible to ignore.
NFL teams are noticing, especially the Cleveland Browns. They’ve shown interest in Skattebo, and it’s easy to understand why. The Browns are looking to enhance their offense, and with Skattebo’s size, vision, and speed, he might be the perfect fit.
As Cam Skattebo continues to generate buzz, it’s clear that his future in the NFL is full of exciting possibilities. Whether he ends up with the Cleveland Browns, the Arizona Cardinals, or another team, one thing’s for sure—his skills and determination are impossible to ignore.
Cam Skattebo Makes Big NFL Combine Announcement as ASU Star Emerges as Potential Pick to Replace $36M Free Agent
Amidst the recent controversy Arizona 's Cam Skattebo recently shared an update on his NFL Combine plans and they are surprising.
www.essentiallysports.com
clarkgriswold
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Guess who the Browns are interested in perhaps drafting at running back?
NFL teams are noticing, especially the Cleveland Browns. They’ve shown interest in Skattebo, and it’s easy to understand why. The Browns are looking to enhance their offense, and with Skattebo’s size, vision, and speed, he might be the perfect fit.
As Cam Skattebo continues to generate buzz, it’s clear that his future in the NFL is full of exciting possibilities. Whether he ends up with the Cleveland Browns, the Arizona Cardinals, or another team, one thing’s for sure—his skills and determination are impossible to ignore.
Cam Skattebo Makes Big NFL Combine Announcement as ASU Star Emerges as Potential Pick to Replace $36M Free Agent
Amidst the recent controversy Arizona 's Cam Skattebo recently shared an update on his NFL Combine plans and they are surprising.www.essentiallysports.com
He could be a nice addition for a bad weather outdoor team. A more talented Payton Hillis.
I just like his versatility, and... how many times do the Browns get inside the five and have to settle for a field goal because the runner can't power his way through? And, his toughness is a major benefit. I'm tired of the scatbacks.