Central Buckeye Conference (CBC) 2023

RollingTrain

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Really? Even I would not be that bold to say that 🤣 . Now the Braves have bigger fish to fry to get that divisional title and get a favorable seeding. Congrats Red Raiders, that win pushed you to the top of R11.
I'm not sure Shawnee will have much of a problem winning the MR. It isn't looking too good. Usually you can count of North Union to put up a fight but they are as down as I've seen them in a while.
 

Brookie

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London-Shawnee score is exactly why Shawnee wanted to be in small division. They definitely made the right decision. Should be able to win that elusive league title.
 

ghsknightsfan

love the Knights and Grey Ghosts!
Still think being in the small division will help Shawnee get to the playoffs with less injuries
as well as enhancing the overall experience for the student athletes, which is something we often lose sight of. Shawnee has a great program and the kids deserve to be rewarded for it by winning. remember these are high schools kids and most of them don’t understand the idea of “being battle tested”. they’d rather play like schools and go 9-1 than play schools much bigger, take it to the chin a couple of weeks, and finish 6-4. i don’t think seeing London, Jonathan Alder, and Bellefontaine every year is the reason they have been successful in the playoffs most years- they just have a good program. also schedule quality games out if conference.
 

Dd03

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I bet you got your loaded tater since it poured Friday night in Clark County. I bet they didn't even sell 100 due to the rain. I was going to go, but I didn't want to get all wet. 😡
I sure did get my loaded tater with pulled pork! I should’ve made CedarBuck let me in the press box with him. Was pretty soaked by the end of it 😂
 

LELL

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I sure did get my loaded tater with pulled pork! I should’ve made CedarBuck let me in the press box with him. Was pretty soaked by the end of it 😂
Had I known that CeadrBuck was in there, I'd went to the game and got him a loaded tater and knocked on the door to let me in. I bet he loves types of bribes. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

Gamma Gobbler

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Here we go with the last of the crossovers and half way through the regular season. I am taking different approach this week in my picks and scores to avoid the IL over Allen East and the U clocking Graham push backs. My picks are strictly based on points for and against with a bit of a fudge.

Indian Lake (3-1) at Bellefontaine (3-1): Who played a tougher schedule coming into this game? The Lakers have some cats that can play with Lillard having 3 INT over the first four weeks and the team probably have exceeded expectations at this point. The Chefs may have found their stride the past couple or weeks BUT the rushing was a bit underwhelming against Ben Logan. Statistically, the Chefs should double up the Lakers (34-17) but I will go a bit further and give this one to Bellefontaine and tOSU future QB 48-14.

Ben Logan (0-4) at Big Jon Alder (3-1): When published stats are a zero, well that is maybe what BL can expect...my question is why? Give the kids a shout out for their accomplishments. Jewell is the fire in Pioneerland cabin and his only blemish is against a stout Bloom Carroll. I suspect he will have 250-300 yards this week that will put him well over the grand rushing mark buuuuuttttt, the next five weeks could be different. Still no passing to help him out. The stats say JA 56- BL 14 and I'll stick with that and not throw more shade on the Raider faithful.

Shawnee (3-1) at Kenton Ridge (3-1): This is my game of the week and another huge points game for both teams. The Braves fought hard last week but were held in check by that Red Raider DEFENSE, they only had 34 plays for 150 total yards, ouch! The Braves may be under estimated in DIV and that is good for them but by years end; everyone in R16 will know their name. KR...not sure what to make of them. They seem to have a decent defense and are a +51 but their offense is questionable to put points on the board quickly and I can see the Braves being at least equal to the Burg and that is bad news for these kittens. Even with this being a rivalry, I will stick with the stats, Braves 23 Cougars 13 and the first time I have picked the Braves to win this year, uh oh....

Graham (0-4) at London (4-): What can we say here other than Graham's schedule gets tougher? The Falcons have several kids in the top five for tackles in the conference and showed vast improvement against the U last week with their offense. I see a Graham upset in the MR schedule...keep chipping away. Though I seem to pick on the Eyas, I am pulling for them to succeed. However, London is a different nightmare. My heart goes out to Sollars and my prayers are with him. London still has a Jones and if he is the next man up, then the Red Raiders are in good position to fine tune the offense (defense is already there) to get ready for that Chefs showdown next week. London dials it back a bit this week 43-10

Northwestern (1-3) at Tecumseh (2-2): Dont let the records fool you here. NW has a cat that is all that and a bag of chips. He is the offense for the Warriors and is top 20 in the CBC for tackles. If Reid Smith played for Shawnee, this kid would have consideration for OPOY in the MR. Yes, Tecumseh is big and not so fast but the Bledsoe kid is more than the Warriors have seen. This is my overtime game and I will go out on a limb here at take NW 24-21.

North Union ((1-3) at Urbana (4-0): I and probably others expected more from the Richwood Rowdies. The kittens have less than 1100 yards total offense on the year but their defense has been stingy. The Climbers, who have not a single second level point in R16 have dominated their opponents and comfortably sit in the playoffs. These may be two teams headed in opposite directions come divisional play. Urbana needs this more than NU and with a stats based prediction the Climbers 34-17.

Good luck to all and prayers for NO MORE injuries.
 

LELL

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Indian Lake (3-1) at Bellefontaine (3-1)
Ben Logan (0-4) at JA (3-1)
Shawnee (3-1)
at Kenton Ridge (3-1)
Graham (0-4) at London (4-0)
NW (1-3) at Tecumseh (2-2)
NU (1-3) at Urbana (4-0)
 

Gamma Gobbler

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Indian Lake (3-1) at Bellefontaine (3-1)
Ben Logan (0-4) at JA (3-1)
Shawnee (3-1)
at Kenton Ridge (3-1)
Graham (0-4) at London (4-0)
NW (1-3) at Tecumseh (2-2)
NU (1-3) at Urbana (4-0)
Indian Lake (3-1) at Bellefontaine (3-1)
Ben Logan (0-4) at JA (3-1)
Shawnee (3-1)
at Kenton Ridge (3-1)
Graham (0-4) at London (4-0)
NW (1-3) at Tecumseh (2-2)
NU (1-3) at Urbana (4-0)
Watch out for the Warriors....just say'n. Would like to hear your Braves insight and this should be a good game for them and KR. The winner has a huge opportunity to capture those Harbin points for better seeding. I kind of had this as a toss up but I let the stats take over with my picks.
 

LELL

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Watch out for the Warriors....just say'n. Would like to hear your Braves insight and this should be a good game for them and KR. The winner has a huge opportunity to capture those Harbin points for better seeding. I kind of had this as a toss up but I let the stats take over with my picks.
This a a rivalry game if you ask me. If the Braves can keep focus, I look for them to win in a landslide.
 

MGR

New member
Here we go with the last of the crossovers and half way through the regular season. I am taking different approach this week in my picks and scores to avoid the IL over Allen East and the U clocking Graham push backs. My picks are strictly based on points for and against with a bit of a fudge.

Indian Lake (3-1) at Bellefontaine (3-1): Who played a tougher schedule coming into this game? The Lakers have some cats that can play with Lillard having 3 INT over the first four weeks and the team probably have exceeded expectations at this point. The Chefs may have found their stride the past couple or weeks BUT the rushing was a bit underwhelming against Ben Logan. Statistically, the Chefs should double up the Lakers (34-17) but I will go a bit further and give this one to Bellefontaine and tOSU future QB 48-14.

Ben Logan (0-4) at Big Jon Alder (3-1): When published stats are a zero, well that is maybe what BL can expect...my question is why? Give the kids a shout out for their accomplishments. Jewell is the fire in Pioneerland cabin and his only blemish is against a stout Bloom Carroll. I suspect he will have 250-300 yards this week that will put him well over the grand rushing mark buuuuuttttt, the next five weeks could be different. Still no passing to help him out. The stats say JA 56- BL 14 and I'll stick with that and not throw more shade on the Raider faithful.

Shawnee (3-1) at Kenton Ridge (3-1): This is my game of the week and another huge points game for both teams. The Braves fought hard last week but were held in check by that Red Raider DEFENSE, they only had 34 plays for 150 total yards, ouch! The Braves may be under estimated in DIV and that is good for them but by years end; everyone in R16 will know their name. KR...not sure what to make of them. They seem to have a decent defense and are a +51 but their offense is questionable to put points on the board quickly and I can see the Braves being at least equal to the Burg and that is bad news for these kittens. Even with this being a rivalry, I will stick with the stats, Braves 23 Cougars 13 and the first time I have picked the Braves to win this year, uh oh....

Graham (0-4) at London (4-): What can we say here other than Graham's schedule gets tougher? The Falcons have several kids in the top five for tackles in the conference and showed vast improvement against the U last week with their offense. I see a Graham upset in the MR schedule...keep chipping away. Though I seem to pick on the Eyas, I am pulling for them to succeed. However, London is a different nightmare. My heart goes out to Sollars and my prayers are with him. London still has a Jones and if he is the next man up, then the Red Raiders are in good position to fine tune the offense (defense is already there) to get ready for that Chefs showdown next week. London dials it back a bit this week 43-10

Northwestern (1-3) at Tecumseh (2-2): Dont let the records fool you here. NW has a cat that is all that and a bag of chips. He is the offense for the Warriors and is top 20 in the CBC for tackles. If Reid Smith played for Shawnee, this kid would have consideration for OPOY in the MR. Yes, Tecumseh is big and not so fast but the Bledsoe kid is more than the Warriors have seen. This is my overtime game and I will go out on a limb here at take NW 24-21.

North Union ((1-3) at Urbana (4-0): I and probably others expected more from the Richwood Rowdies. The kittens have less than 1100 yards total offense on the year but their defense has been stingy. The Climbers, who have not a single second level point in R16 have dominated their opponents and comfortably sit in the playoffs. These may be two teams headed in opposite directions come divisional play. Urbana needs this more than NU and with a stats based prediction the Climbers 34-17.

Good luck to all and prayers for NO MORE injuries.
I was curious how you were going to pick the Northwestern vs Tecumseh game. It wouldn’t shock anyone if NW pulled out the win. Shawnee took a lot out of the Arrows. They are a team in turmoil. Last year’s seniors had enough talent to overcome coaching blunders. This year’s team isn’t as fortunate.

The Shawnee vs KR might be a good one. KR seems to be improved this year. The Braves are still one the best coach teams around. Braves win a close one.
 

Gamma Gobbler

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This a a rivalry game if you ask me. If the Braves can keep focus, I look for them to win in a landslide.
Focus may be the difference but the rivalry could play a factor. The Braves are away for the second time this year and KR is not a nice place for the Braves to play, 17-7, in 2021. I see the Shawnee taking this one but it could or shall I say be a struggle for them in the end.
 

LELL

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Focus may be the difference but the rivalry could play a factor. The Braves are away for the second time this year and KR is not a nice place for the Braves to play, 17-7, in 2021. I see the Shawnee taking this one but it could or shall I say be a struggle for them in the end.
Yeah, those Cougars get mad when the Braves date their lady kittens. ROTFLMAO!
 

Gamma Gobbler

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I was curious how you were going to pick the Northwestern vs Tecumseh game. It wouldn’t shock anyone if NW pulled out the win. Shawnee took a lot out of the Arrows. They are a team in turmoil. Last year’s seniors had enough talent to overcome coaching blunders. This year’s team isn’t as fortunate.

The Shawnee vs KR might be a good one. KR seems to be improved this year. The Braves are still one the best coach teams around. Braves win a close one.
It may or not surprise you but I have not seen a game, any game, this year. I can literally make picks with a slight degree of confidence for every conference that post stats. Though I do rely on a friend that does some scouting in the CBC of teams to keep me in the loop. Yes, IMO it would be a shock for NW to win this week's game but am high on NW and the Smith kid to push them through. I am not privy to the THS turmoil. I am just stat fact based. As I have posted previously, NW is one dimensional but they are scrappy and that is why I picked them in a slight upset. Lets be real here Tecumseh is DIII and NW is DV. NW has nothing to lose and THS everything...respect

Yes, Shawnee coaching is the best around the area, IMO in SW Ohio. They probably have the most continuity of any staff in the CBC and that is a plus for them but this week with KR and the rivalry this may be more of struggle for the Braves than the stats dictate.
 

ChemH20

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It may or not surprise you but I have not seen a game, any game, this year. I can literally make picks with a slight degree of confidence for every conference that post stats. Though I do rely on a friend that does some scouting in the CBC of teams to keep me in the loop. Yes, IMO it would be a shock for NW to win this week's game but am high on NW and the Smith kid to push them through. I am not privy to the THS turmoil. I am just stat fact based. As I have posted previously, NW is one dimensional but they are scrappy and that is why I picked them in a slight upset. Lets be real here Tecumseh is DIII and NW is DV. NW has nothing to lose and THS everything...respect

Yes, Shawnee coaching is the best around the area, IMO in SW Ohio. They probably have the most continuity of any staff in the CBC and that is a plus for them but this week with KR and the rivalry this may be more of struggle for the Braves than the stats dictate.
Shawnee best coaching staff in SW OHIO?! That's a bold statement.... Shawnee probably best staff between Clark & Champaign county...
 

Gamma Gobbler

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Yeah, those Cougars get mad when the Braves date their lady kittens. ROTFLMAO!
You ugly and you got not alibi, lol. Get a Fair Chop, sweet tea and stare into the western sunset while enjoying a good game as the Braves go 4-1 going into divisional play.
 

Gamma Gobbler

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Shawnee best coaching staff in SW OHIO?! That's a bold statement.... Shawnee probably best staff between Clark & Champaign county...
Who with their continuity and record exceeds them? Keep in mind these dudes have been together for a long time and most were on staff for that state finals game against Mooney in 2011. From my understanding there is one previous HC and a Hall of Famer on staff along with a lineage of accomplished assistants.... Yes, it is a bold statement but who would not want Meeks as their next HC or even anyone on his staff?

Keep in mind this is "small ball" but their experience and knowledge does not dictate that.

Just ask the other coaches that have competed against them, I have. Those coaches will tell you SHS is most prepared and executed team they have played or have coached against.

Its good of you to take my post out of context, as it was In My Opinion, IMO, and not data based. Now, if you want to get into the weeds, I will oblige and we can discuss.

Now, your point?
 
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ChemH20

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Who with their continuity and record exceeds them? Keep in mind these dudes have been together for a long time and most were on staff for that state finals game against Mooney in 2011. From my understanding there is one previous HC and a Hall of Famer on staff along with a lineage of accomplished assistants.... Yes, it is a bold statement but who would not want Meeks as their next HC or even anyone on his staff?

Keep in mind this is "small ball" but their experience and knowledge does not dictate that.

Just ask the other coaches that have competed against them, I have. Those coaches will tell you SHS is most prepared and executed team they have played or have coached against.

Its good of you to take my post out of context, as it was In My Opinion, IMO, and not data based. Now, if you want to get into the weeds, I will oblige and we can discuss.

Now, your point?
CLINTON MASSIE!?!?! You know what your gonna get every year from them and teams still can't figure out how to stop them... State titles to prove it. I guess you could disagree with me
 

LELL

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CLINTON MASSIE!?!?! You know what your gonna get every year from them and teams still can't figure out how to stop them... State titles to prove it. I guess you could disagree with me
They are there too. Wow, you mention one other program and are yelling CM. ROTFLMAO! Maybe Gamma Gobbler should have said "one of the best", is that better? Gee whiz. BTW, if you're such a CM lover, why you on a CBC thread? Go post on your own conference thread. Are you a MASSILL(0)N fan too? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

RollingTrain

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CLINTON MASSIE!?!?! You know what your gonna get every year from them and teams still can't figure out how to stop them... State titles to prove it. I guess you could disagree with me
Teams absolutely can figure out how to stop CM - they simply can't out-physical them for four quarters to do it. Lets face it, CM typically just has some dudes that are nastier and more physical than others. I've seen them walk into a 7-on-7 at Darby the last few years and they have a chip on their shoulder at that.
 

ChemH20

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They are there too. Wow, you mention one other program and are yelling CM. ROTFLMAO! Maybe Gamma Gobbler should have said "one of the best", is that better? Gee whiz. BTW, if you're such a CM lover, why you on a CBC thread? Go post on your own conference thread. Are you a MASSILL(0)N fan too? :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Yes.. "one of the best" :) Nope I"m a neutral fan and give credit where credit is due. Shawnee has been a great program with Meeks at the helm!
 

ColumbusCatholic

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League titles don't mean crap. You want region and state titles, period!
I disagree. Your way of thinking means that almost every team’s season in CBC history really didn’t mean crap because they didn’t win regions or state…..it’s rarely happens for these teams. When you’re in it playing….sure you want a regional or state championship. I’m sure the teams that win the league are happy they did and it probably means more to them with each passing year when they look back.
 

LELL

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I disagree. Your way of thinking means that almost every team’s season in CBC history really didn’t mean crap because they didn’t win regions or state…..it’s rarely happens for these teams. When you’re in it playing….sure you want a regional or state championship. I’m sure the teams that win the league are happy they did and it probably means more to them with each passing year when they look back.
Well when I played, Urbana was King and made Regionals and State. Set your goals high and grab them, I say.
 

Gamma Gobbler

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CLINTON MASSIE!?!?! You know what your gonna get every year from them and teams still can't figure out how to stop them... State titles to prove it. I guess you could disagree with me
You must know me to know I can argue at length with Pope on biblical apologetics 🤣. As Lell stated, maybe I should have stated "one of the best" and I will stand by that as a better choice of words. That is by no means a slam against CM, Coach McSurley or his staff but the wishbone is what it is. If Massie had played Shawnee last year instead of Urbana in the second round they probably would have gone home with a loss.

Shawnee appears to take a more "cerebral", lack of better words, approach in their structure, every play has an option but the execution of those options are held within the players as they are coached, this why they have been very successful. I don't know who the D Coordinator is but it appears he takes the same approach with the talent he has and keeps the Braves in the game. IMO, again my Opinion, Shawnee lines up the best game plan for the talent they have available better than other teams that I have seen. State titles aside, I'll take Meeks and staff coached team to covert a 3rd and 10 late in the fourth quarter before any other.
 

Stirred not Shaken

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Teams absolutely can figure out how to stop CM - they simply can't out-physical them for four quarters to do it. Lets face it, CM typically just has some dudes that are nastier and more physical than others. I've seen them walk into a 7-on-7 at Darby the last few years and they have a chip on their shoulder at that.
That comes from coaching.
 
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