As many as 10 dead in mass shooting at Buffalo supermarket

y2h said:
She's busy making her city safe for killing babies (pretty on brand considering what's happening in the streets of her city)
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I will never forget her faulting stores for not hiring armed security, when her cops won’t respond half the time because she won’t prosecute anyone.
 
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IVCguy said:
According to the Left he was born an oppressor. Maybe he believed it and decided to oppress. ???

The "just another day in America" comment caught my eye. If that were true, this wouldn't be news. It's news because the Left's demand for white supremacy is greater than the supply. They need one of these every now and then because the "dog whistle" and subliminal stuff gets a little stale.

The difference between the Left and Right is a white supremacist kills a bunch of people and everyone on the Right wants to hang the guy from a tree while a naive do-good kid defends himself during a riot from people trying to kill him and everyone on the Left wants to hang that kid from a tree - even after being found not guilty on all counts.

Lefties are strange, odd folks.
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Joe is going to “shuffle off to Buffalo”. Joe still hasn’t been to Waukesha. FJB.
 
wolves82 said:
This shooting and the reaction to it show how broken our society is. Even on this thread, everyone rushes to blame one political party or the other. Others make jokes, and others politicize the shooting to get points in the abortion discussion. Sad.

I realize that common-sense RINOs like me have no place in the political discussion any more, but here we go:
1) Can't we keep our right to bear arms, but add some common sense gun controls?
a) better background checks at time of purchase
-- increase age restrictions (you need to be 25 to rent a car, for god's sake)
-- include a brief mental health evaluation
b) outlaw automatic weapons
-- this is 2022, no-one outside the military or the police needs a machine gun
-- all of the worst mass shootings have been with automatic weapons
2) We need term limits for the Senate and House. Literally everyone speaks out against the mass shootings, but the legislature is afraid to act on common sense guns controls because:
a) The NRA gives them lots of money. Mostly GOP legislators, but not all.
b) The gun lovers in their congressional districts say they will not vote for them next election.
c) Term limits solves most of this - and then the chickensh--t congress people can vote with their conscience, instead of protecting their seat

Now, both sides can tell me why I am wrong. When you do so, please explain to me why all the other countries like Great Britain, Canada and Australia are also wrong. They have gun controls and very few mass shooting incidents, while the US has 198 in the first 4.5 months of 2022.
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1. We already have background checks.. give details on how to make them better
b). Automatic ”weapons’ meaning rifles/firearms are already “outlawed”. In order to purchase fully automatic firearms you must apply for, pay yearly for, and go through an extensive background check to obtain a Class III firearms license to purchase fully automatic firearms.

your “RINO” sense is exactly that. Your first 2 points are leftist talking points, in which you have let yourself be fooled into believing. Or you are just a leftist in sheep clothing.
 
zeeman said:
If you aim a rifle at people you don’t know and pull the trigger and blow them away in a grocery store you’re probably mentally ill ?? Should that take away from said person being guilty of murder? No, of course not.
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Evil and crazy are two different concepts, but they do intersect. An extreme evil act is not sensible, rational, or sane - if you will. A person suffering from a variety of psychoses can do some evil things. Or one can merely appear to be the other when it is exclusively evil or crazy.

It all hinges on intent and motivation. If someone kills 10 black people because a voice told them to kill the monsters they see and they hallucinate those monsters, that is one thing. If someone kills 10 black people because they hate black people, well, that's just pure evil. It's possible that both concepts are present in an event.

This is recognized and accounted for in our law. However, there are some high hurdles to clear in order to have a successful insanity defense that most cannot achieve. A completely disordered mind and the inability to know right from wrong before and during the event are usually very difficult to show.
 
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cabezadecaballo said:
No point in a trial. He’s guilty, and the “reason why” he chose his actions matter’s only in terms of research. Interview him thoroughly and cash him out of the game of life. Dude has forfeited his right to exist.
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Surprised to hear you say that. I understand for most Christians the Bible can be selectively interpreted to fit their own personal beliefs as is convenient, but the Church is clearly against it.
 
frecriss said:
I wear a MAGA hat and I dont visit these sites. I am also not an anti capitalist, national socialist either so I'm not shooting up grocery stores in Buffalo
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You can delude youself into believing white supremacy hate sites are not a problem, and not a right wing problem, and not a serious domestic terror threat, despite all the evidence and official warnings, but I won't.

That is not say violent left wing extremism, or foreign terrorism, do not exist.
 
If the "manifesto" is to be believed this is another example of a mass murdering bastard choosing to kill people in places with the strictest gun laws:

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

Buffalo Shooter Reportedly Chose a New York Target Because of the State's Gun Control Laws - The Truth About Guns

&#9664Previous Post Next Post▶ The officially unidentified shooter who opened fire at a Buffalo, New York grocery store reportedly published a racist, anti-semitic 180-page manifesto justifying his efforts to “show to the replacers that as long as the White man lives, our land will never be...
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Why did you choose (REDACTED) for the place of attack?
(REDACTED) has the highest black population percentage (zip code *****) and isn’t that far away. Plus NY has heavy gun laws so it would ease me if I knew that any legally armed civilian was limited to 10 round magazines or cucked firearms.

I replaced the name of the city to redacted because I’d prefer that the FBI and local police don’t know until the attack has started. After the attack can somebody switch it over plz?
 
I'm questioning this whole story.

If he really wanted to kill a bunch of black people, he would have went to a rap concert. Lets be real.
 
lotr10 said:
Seems like NY State law enforcement dropped the ball on this one:

thepostmillennial.com

BREAKING: Buffalo mass shooter threatened shooting at high school, was known to police, underwent ‘mental health evaluation’

“The shooter, identified as Payton Gendron, had previously threatened a shooting at his high school last June.”
thepostmillennial.com thepostmillennial.com
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Schools and mental health professionals (who are invading our schools) drop the ball constantly. They want to “fix” each and every kid, and will put everyone else at risk in order to do so. Just like they let the Michigan fool waltz back to class with a pistol in his backpack. They ultimately didn’t want to “risk it” or “make waves”. Again, schools have been discouraged from disciplining, instead offering “services” to make kids feel “normal” (basically, these MH counselors amount to enablers, ambulance-chasing, scumbags - not all).
 
TigerPaw said:
You can delude youself into believing white supremacy hate sites are not a problem, and not a right wing problem, and not a serious domestic terror threat, despite all the evidence and official warnings, but I won't.

That is not say violent left wing extremism, or foreign terrorism, do not exist.
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Are you backpeddling from Tucker and Fox News then?
 
TigerPaw said:
You can delude youself into believing white supremacy hate sites are not a problem, and not a right wing problem, and not a serious domestic terror threat, despite all the evidence and official warnings, but I won't.

That is not say violent left wing extremism, or foreign terrorism, do not exist.
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I never said anything about any extremism not being a problem. Just show the same outrage to BLM or Antifa
 
Obviously this is a Government ploy. What are the odds that a gunman goes out with a gun the government wants banned, in gear the government wants banned, all while writing a manifesto listing many many thing the Feds hate. Plus the fact that just as racial divide was cooling down, a racially motivated shooting takes place. The government is sacrificing its citizens to fuel divide. Its so clear to see. The democrats instead of calling him a monster they call him a republican. They want to make you fight as they take your rights.
 
We can't live in fear but we are at the point where none of us can say it will never happen here.
Fox News host, Republicans echo theory cited by shooterA racist ideology seeping from the internet's fringes into the mainstream is being investigated as a motivating factor in the shooting that killed 10 in Buffalo, N.Y. Most of the victims were Black »
While more virulent forms of racism are widely abhorred, experts are concerned about extreme views nonetheless becoming mainstream.

In a poll released last week, The Associated Press and the NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that about 1 in 3 Americans believe an effort is underway to replace U.S.-born Americans with immigrants for electoral gain.
 
bob99 said:
We can't live in fear but we are at the point where none of us can say it will never happen here.
Fox News host, Republicans echo theory cited by shooterA racist ideology seeping from the internet's fringes into the mainstream is being investigated as a motivating factor in the shooting that killed 10 in Buffalo, N.Y. Most of the victims were Black »
While more virulent forms of racism are widely abhorred, experts are concerned about extreme views nonetheless becoming mainstream.

In a poll released last week, The Associated Press and the NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that about 1 in 3 Americans believe an effort is underway to replace U.S.-born Americans with immigrants for electoral gain.
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Of course there is an effort by the Dems to use immigration and illegal immigration to turn states like TX, FL, AZ and GA blue so they can never again lose a national election. It’s not some big secret. Anyone with half a brain can see it being attempted. Does it make someone a crazed right wing nativist radical to state the obvious, or is it maybe that they are frightened of the nation being under Dem control forever? That’s an awful prospect to many.
 
bob99 said:
We can't live in fear but we are at the point where none of us can say it will never happen here.
Fox News host, Republicans echo theory cited by shooterA racist ideology seeping from the internet's fringes into the mainstream is being investigated as a motivating factor in the shooting that killed 10 in Buffalo, N.Y. Most of the victims were Black »
While more virulent forms of racism are widely abhorred, experts are concerned about extreme views nonetheless becoming mainstream.

In a poll released last week, The Associated Press and the NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that about 1 in 3 Americans believe an effort is underway to replace U.S.-born Americans with immigrants for electoral gain.
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2/3 of those polled must be ignorant.
 
cjb5656 said:
Of course there is an effort by the Dems to use immigration and illegal immigration to turn states like TX, FL, AZ and GA blue so they can never again lose a national election. It’s not some big secret. Anyone with half a brain can see it being attempted. Does it make someone a crazed right wing nativist radical to state the obvious, or is it maybe that they are frightened of the nation being under Dem control forever? That’s an awful prospect to many.
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Case and point. ^ The darkies are taking over.
 
cjb5656 said:
Has nothing to do with race and everything to do with politics.
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If the left is doing this for political reasons, they are not thinking it through very well.
THE HISPANIC VOTE IN TEXAS IS TURNING RED
…[T]he Biden administration’s border policies have been destructive to nearby communities, including the Hispanic communities…

…so long as they continue to put these communities in danger with irresponsible management of the border and appeals to their status as a minority instead of individual communities, Democrats will continue to bleed support.
 
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