D2 boys should beDoes anyone have information about the OATCC polls? I can’t find a preseason poll or a place they’ll clearly post one this week. The website stops at 2023.
Thanks!
OHSAA even provides a link for it here: https://www.ohsaa.org/Sports-Tournaments/Cross-Country/Cross-Country-2024. But that link is where it stops at 2023.Good question about the polls?? Should've been a pre season poll last week.
Also, D2 I would put Cincinnati CHCA and West Liberty-Salem in the top 5 or 6
These polls might be worth a little more if more than 12 coaches voted in them.
1. Fairfield UnionD2 looks like it's going to be fun.
Fairfield Union clear #1 right now. Bay, Lexington and Woodridge 2A, 2B and 2C... Woodridge did not look real deep Week #1. That has changed. Top returner from last year is back racing, but not in scoring yet. . I'd be worried if I was Fairfield Union. Those 3 teams hunting you down would have to be nerve wracking.1. Fairfield Union
2. $oodridge and Bay
4. Lexington
5. All the rest far behind these 4
Maybe it was not noticed, but Bay's #1 did not score at Tiffin eitherFairfield Union clear #1 right now. Bay, Lexington and Woodridge 2A, 2B and 2C... Woodridge did not look real deep Week #1. That has changed. Top returner from last year is back racing, but not in scoring yet. . I'd be worried if I was Fairfield Union. Those 3 teams hunting you down would have to be nerve wracking.
See where I have Bay #2A... Just pointing out that Woody is now deeper than they were a few weeks ago. I would pick them a tight 4th right now, but we know this is not typically the strong part of their season. It looks like it's 4 teams and then a big gap. When it comes to Bay and Woodridge, I'll take Woodridge 9 out of 10 times at the state meet. Is this Bay's year to beat Woody at the State?Maybe it was not noticed, but Bay's #1 did not score at Tiffin either
Bay has rarely done well when running vs $oodridge, especially at regionals, but not many have over the past two decadesSee where I have Bay #2A... Just pointing out that Woody is now deeper than they were a few weeks ago. I would pick them a tight 4th right now, but we know this is not typically the strong part of their season. It looks like it's 4 teams and then a big gap. When it comes to Bay and Woodridge, I'll take Woodridge 9 out of 10 times at the state meet. Is this Bay's year to beat Woody at the State?
Clearly Bay is the favorite at this time at Boardman.Bay has rarely done well when running vs $oodridge, especially at regionals, but not many have over the past two decades
We agree so far about the current state of Boy's D2, top 4 are well clear of the rest.
This Saturday could be a great midseason showdown if they all run the D2 race and everyone is healthy.
Now we don't agree, but we appear to be a very small group of posters about the polls and this year's XC eventsClearly Bay is the favorite at this time at Boardman.
Cuz the Southwest teams suck. Every kid goes to Mason.Now we don't agree, but we appear to be a very small group of posters about the polls and this year's XC events
D1 is where the real action is.Cuz the Southwest teams suck. Every kid goes to Mason.
When Woodridge is ranked 7th, people should be all over this. Scandalous. Outrageous.Now we don't agree, but we appear to be a very small group of posters about the polls and this year's XC events
cuz every kid in the SW goes to Mason.D1 is where the real action is.
There has been a couple of years that $oodridge was better than any of themD1 is where the real action is.
Don’t encourage him.There has been a couple of years that $oodridge was better than any of them
Without him this is mostly a forum to complain about not having enough divisions.Don’t encourage him.
On the other hand…. Who here doesn’t already know that Woodridge is good?Without him this is mostly a forum to complain about not having enough divisions.
$oodridge is funny. Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, but that's what makes it funny.
If you were a pollster, would you vote them lower than 4th at any time? In the last 20 seasons, they average 3rd place at the state meet. Going by numbers, 2024 might be an off year since in 2004 and 2014 they had their worst finishes at the state meet in the 20 year run. 8th and 14th. I think if I had a vote, they might get a benefit of the doubt. You would have go out of your way to vote them 7th.
Minster is the gold standard for girls. I'd say Woodridge is for boys and also for total program boys and girls combined.
McDonald, Maplewood, East Canton. Minerva, Salem, Lexington, Medina, Hudson, Bay, Mason, St. X, (Perrysburg), (Field) (Granville)(Liberty Benton)(West Liberty Salem) (Versalles) (Davidson) Top of my head zero thought, just name recognition over the years and current.I cannot refute your findings on Minster and Woodridge. You love Woodridge and I like that you do love them. I would contest that the gold standard for programs is not as simple as one team. I would argue that multiple teams can be listed as a Tier 1 standard. Tier 2 standard. Tier 3 standard. And so forth.
If you look around the state for girls and boys programs, there are consistently strong programs for 20-30-40 years. I would rate all of those programs as Tier 1 programs. These are the programs that when they show up every coach, parent, AD, and runner knows that this program has arrived at the meet.
I would argue for college football the simple gold standard would be Alabama. But that is too easy. I would rather you rate a Tier 1 standard of continuous force teams: Ohio State, Notre Dame, USC, Michigan, Texas, Georgia, Tennessee, Oklahoma, etc.
Psycho- can you start another thread of other teams you see as Tier 1 programs for the past 20 years. And let's not use state meet results. There are plenty of programs that I would list as a Tier 1 program that have never been on the podium.