Hawken is not like Benedictine in any way, shape or form aside from both being private schools. But you knew that already
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MrBeneBengal
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Bedford didn’t think so.
Alpha wolf
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Make them an offer they can't refuse
Brooklyn would be a Great field to play at. Plus, I think they would welcome Benedictine with open arms. Convenient/easy to get there, I480, west side presence, good for fans.
Mayfield's demographics are more suited to Benedictine than Bedford's (significant percentage is of Italian ancestry, heavily Catholic, etc). I don't see them agreeing. Bedford predominantly Black and Protestant. It's not a big deal for them
Arcy26
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They already play at Euclid
Most D-3 schools try to maximize travel. When the football team is playing on Saturday afternoon, the visiting teams soccer team plays Friday night. When the football team is away the woman's teams are scheduled on the field or are using the facility. That's why BW, John Carroll, CWRU and most D-3's do not host high school football games. Baseball is a different animal. You can schedule a Tuesday game. Football games are exclusively scheduled on Friday or Saturday.
WarriorDee
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What about the new Beachwood Stadium?
Mightybengal1
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Benedictine is not a diocesan school, and no offense to Chanel as I have/had a deep love for the school, but there is no way Bene would want to merge with them, let alone move to that location.
The issue of Chanel being co-Ed would have also been a problem. The best case scenario would have been a strong encouragement for all the boys to go to Benedictine, but word on the street is that many Chanel kids either went to Lake Catholic or Trinity.
If we can’t expand and play on our own field Beachwood would be a good option to consider. Nice easy drive up Shaker Blvd. I personally liked Bedford better than Euclid and we never had a problem there.
I did noit say they were, I am only referring to what could have been done instead of selling out quality Catholic Education for nothing there anymore.
Also a Chanel Alum who played for me offered the pinheads $1M for the place and was going to operate an all boys HS that he had a certificate of operation, he was a principal at a local public HS, but they sold it to Canata for less than $460,000, traitors!
Who says Bedford was cost prohibitive? You? They tried to save a few bucks by going to Euclid,now 3 years later,they are afraid to schedule a night game there. Brooklyn wasn't even good enough for Holy Name. They left it years ago for N.Royalton. Good move for them. If the plan is to continue trotting out teams like we have the past 2 years,it doesn't much matter. But,if the goal is to compete for a "ship",we need a 1st rate stadium like Bedford. Potential recruits want a nice stadium to play in,and their parents want a safe place to watch them.If the goal is just to save money, go see if John Marshall or Rhodes are still available.
MrBeneBengal
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I say we play home games at John Adams. They are close by.
Don't give them any ideas. Although I don't think they have a restaurant close by. Lol.
DRB84
When Holy name left Brooklyn the stadium & field were in flux. The stadium & field has been renovated.
Junior. You need to do some investigating before you put your foot in your mouth. Plus. Bedford was going to charge Benedictine 3 times the amount for rent than they were paying. Had to do with student/athletes enrolling at Benedictine from Bedford. It wasn't a cost savings move, as you describe it. It was a smart business decision. If Beachwood would have Benedictine that would be great news. I know Benedictine looked at Brooklyn before the move to Euclid. Maybe take another look.
When Holy name left Brooklyn the stadium & field were in flux. The stadium & field has been renovated.
Junior. You need to do some investigating before you put your foot in your mouth. Plus. Bedford was going to charge Benedictine 3 times the amount for rent than they were paying. Had to do with student/athletes enrolling at Benedictine from Bedford. It wasn't a cost savings move, as you describe it. It was a smart business decision. If Beachwood would have Benedictine that would be great news. I know Benedictine looked at Brooklyn before the move to Euclid. Maybe take another look.
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Carol Danvers
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What I do know is Mayfield is not worried about losing kids to Benedictine nowadays. I can think of kids in Gates Mills right across the street from Hawken that are more apt to go to Hawken. Point being a private can play at Mayfield..so theorize if you must that they do not. Mayfield is really not worried. If you look, more kids from Geauga county end up on that Benny roster, not just the CYO kids either judging by their QB.
MrBeneBengal
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MassillonK1D330
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Why don't Benedictine build their own stadium or just put seats at their practice field? It's crazy that you guys don't have your own feel especially with the historic program that you guys have. BTW I'm glad you guys are having a decent season it's always good football when the historic programs are winning.
There are several reasons why games cannot be hosted at the current practice facility.
1.Parking
2. Stands are too small.
3. Concessions.
My thoughts to be able to turn the current field are not cost friendly.
1. I would drop the field to street level creating a bowl. This would allow for seating on the parking lot side, east side of field, to be installed into the side wall. On the west side of the field, you could put elevated stands with locker rooms underneath. This would seal off any entry from E107 street. The stands on the west side of the field would serve as the home stands with a roof over the seats.
2. Concessions would be under the west stands. Concessions for the visiting side, east stands, would be at the top of the stands. On the visitor side you would enter from the top level & walk down into the seating area.
3. The parking issue could be solved with a parking garage. The rooftop of the garage could be used for alumni pregame activities. Welcoming past alumni, as well as new incoming students & their families. Maximizing the investment.
4. New field would than be viable to host all levels of playoff games. From football to soccer.
I would imagine there would never be budget for these improvements.
A separate campaign or a generous, whoever, would have to be used to complete this pipe dream.
If we are going big.
1. Buy all of the houses between the school & St Benedicts on MLK.
2. Build a new state of the art gymnasium on this site.
3. Allow space for a HOF & Men of Distinction expansive room for display.
4. Create a new entry way for the school & Gymnasium facing west. This entry way would be extravagant. High ceilings, a welcome desk, all of the state championship trophies displayed properly, a salute to the Benedictine monks, as well as the who's who of the school. Joe Rufus Augie Bossu, etc.
5. Not reinventing any wheels here. The entire athletic side of the facility is state of the art. Wrestling room, indoor baseball practice area, weight room, trainer & doctor facility, separate locker rooms for every sport. All state of the art. Better than some D-3 colleges.
6. The new facility could host all tournaments allowing for people/parents of potential students/students, to view the school.
7. Hosting all CYO events, youth wrestling tournaments that need 6-8 mats, youth basketball tournaments that need 3-4 courts, sectional & district high school wrestling & basketball events.
All of these things create potential new students to increase the enrollment.
Big Pipe Dream here that I stole from another catholic high school.
This is exactly what another parochial high school did to change their footprint in the fight to stay viable. The plan worked & exceeded expectations. It took more than several investors to make their dream a reality. In the end the successes have been many.
To be able to have outstanding academics, as well as an outstanding facility, is huge edge in the catholic high school world.
Go Big or Go Home as they say. It would be great to see this become a reality at Benedictine. I didn't win the 2 billion lottery. LOL!
I can only dream!
If it was a smart business decision,why are we looking to move again? Euclid is a real nice stadium,bad area. They looked at Brooklyn 3 years ago,but chose Euclid. Probably because it was cheaper. I seriously doubt Bedford was 3x the price. Don't know where your getting that from. Between the two, I would rather play at Brooklyn then Euclid.
Mightybengal1
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I'm not sure Al Martin or Rick Adams would enjoy Benedictine playing at their facilities. We will see. Brooklyn has shown interest in renting out their field in the past. That's the only reason I have mentioned their field as a potential place to look at. Beachwood would be good as well. If Cuyahoga Hts or Indy were interested in allowing Benedictine to rent their fields. They both would be good choices. As far as a smart business decision. when you do not have coffers of cash to throw around you need to find the best deal. If Euclid 3 years ago was the best deal with a brand-new stadium. Why not take a chance? Who knew that there would be issues down the road? Nevertheless, I think it's time to find a new home field.
Trinity used to use Independence's field and currently rents Cuyahoga Heights
Don of MLK blvd
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Enough talk about new stadiums. Thoughts on the game tonight?
eggsbenedictine
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I agree. Even though I don’t think a move is necessary, I love seeing these ideas about who and why to rent, but could they wait until after the season? Senior night for bene is tonight plus it’s a pretty big game seeding wise. I have to think bene should cruise to a win but I have bene wrong before. What are your thoughts on the brush game?