100 wins

magedona

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Be honest here.
What does it really mean anymore?
Relax, I'm not downplaying it. I still think it's an accomplishment. I just think it doesn't mean as much with wrestlers getting upwards of of 50 matches before state.
Please don't kill the messenger. I've just seen plenty of kids never make it to state in a four-year career and finish with 120 wins.
 
 
Most schools nowadays schedule many more tournaments than duals/tri meets than in the past, so lots more opportunities for wins. But IMO 100 wins is still a BIG deal!
 
It most likely means the kid was a 4 year starter, and was successful more often than not.

100 wins is still a lot! Even with the supposed 50 matches a year, that's a .500 record every year, which indicates quite a bit of consistency as well.
 
wrestling in the 80's, I won exactly 100 matches and was a league, sectional, and district champion. i was also a four year starter. it certainly was not as easy in the past is it is now to win 100. for example, my senior year, our team had a dual meet record of 19-1. that's a lot of duals. most teams don't come close to that anymore. the number of wins, to me, doesn't mean as much, the winning percentage will mean more.

that being said, as a coach, win 100 matches for me, and you have done a great service to your team and yourself. no easy accomplishment today or in the past.
 
A lot of depends on what school you are from...some schools get a ridiculus number of matches in a year.

However...I agree with wash.c.h legend...if you have won 100 matches you have contributed a great deal to your team, coach, and school.
 
It most likely means the kid was a 4 year starter, and was successful more often than not.

100 wins is still a lot! Even with the supposed 50 matches a year, that's a .500 record every year, which indicates quite a bit of consistency as well.

But consistent what? .500? So consistent mediocrity using that example.
 
wrestling in the 80's, I won exactly 100 matches and was a league, sectional, and district champion. i was also a four year starter. it certainly was not as easy in the past is it is now to win 100. for example, my senior year, our team had a dual meet record of 19-1. that's a lot of duals. most teams don't come close to that anymore. the number of wins, to me, doesn't mean as much, the winning percentage will mean more.

that being said, as a coach, win 100 matches for me, and you have done a great service to your team and yourself. no easy accomplishment today or in the past.

Times have really changed. Tom Milkovich won 100 on the nose and was an undefeated 3-time state champ.

It is a good accomplishment, but like rushing for 1000 yards is not what it once was for obvious reasons.
 
A lot of depends on what school you are from...some schools get a ridiculus number of matches in a year.

Interesting stats from Michigan:

260 - Justin Zeerip, Hesperia (260-0) (2003-07)

And the 0ne year record:

Victories
Season
73 - Matthew Brady, Flint Kearsley (73-0) (1990-91)
 
It used to mean you were a two or three time State placer. Now you can get to 100 wins without ever even qualifying for the State Tourney. Is it an accomplishment? Sure. But it's not what it once was.
 
Another interesting aspect to take into consideration would be the strength of schedule.

EX: It is impressive to see a St. Eds kid reach 100 wins because they compete against top caliber individuals on a consistent basis.

I would be interested to see the breakdown on how many St. Eds wrestlers have 100 wins vs. how many have state titles and productive collegiate careers.
 
Be honest here.
What does it really mean anymore?
Relax, I'm not downplaying it. I still think it's an accomplishment. I just think it doesn't mean as much with wrestlers getting upwards of of 50 matches before state.
Please don't kill the messenger. I've just seen plenty of kids never make it to state in a four-year career and finish with 120 wins.

The only person that would start a thread like this is an insecure, jealous adult that never reached this plateau in his HS career. Why else would you care if someone posted a congratulations for a kid reaching 100 varsity wins in his HS career. You are truly PATHETIC!
 
Before you attack. READ!!!! I was asking if it means as much now as it USED TO. Don't kill the messenger means just that. Shakes head. Wanted to hear discussion and get honest opinions. I said nothing at all about a posting of a congratulations post. Said it's still an accomplishment. Just wondered if it meant the same. Please.
 
There is something called CONTEXT. 100 wins today means much less than it did in the past. Kids are getting more matches in the regular season. More matches, more chances to win. You also are seeing more kids start on the varsity for all four years of the career as well.

I would say that in today's environment, 140+ wins would be an elite bell-weather ... averaging 35 wins per season.

On the pins, the number one HVY in the nation Cody Krumwiede (Waverly Shell-Rock, Iowa) accrued his 100th pin in the season's opening weekend. I would bet he's close to 105 or more now with the bulk of a senior season to go. Kid wrestled 215 the last two years, and I think either 189 or 215 as a frosh.
 
There is something called CONTEXT. 100 wins today means much less than it did in the past. Kids are getting more matches in the regular season. More matches, more chances to win. You also are seeing more kids start on the varsity for all four years of the career as well.I would say that in today's environment, 140+ wins would be an elite bell-weather ... averaging 35 wins per season.

On the pins, the number one HVY in the nation Cody Krumwiede (Waverly Shell-Rock, Iowa) accrued his 100th pin in the season's opening weekend. I would bet he's close to 105 or more now with the bulk of a senior season to go. Kid wrestled 215 the last two years, and I think either 189 or 215 as a frosh.

Is this because more wrestlers are quitting the sport or freshman are more talented than ever?
 
Some of both I think. More kids start the spirt earlier and specialize earlier.

Got less of the pick it up in ms and develop by end of a career. I wouldn't say kids are quitting much more, as it's they may just not come out for first time in grade 7 or 9
 
It really is relative to the team and the type of schedule you wrestle. When I was at Fairfield there were very few who ever reached 100 wins because they didn't do many events outside of regular duals. In my first two years there I won roughly 46 matches (only wrestling a total of about 32 a year). When I got to West I had 84 wins in two years wrestling about 50 matches a year). Now I was a lot better the years I was at west, but the sheer volume of matches we wrestled helped.
 
100 Wins

I understand the more matches but with more kids starting earlier is the overall level of competition improved to make 100 wins still a landmark?
 
The only person that would start a thread like this is an insecure, jealous adult that never reached this plateau in his HS career. Why else would you care if someone posted a congratulations for a kid reaching 100 varsity wins in his HS career. You are truly PATHETIC!

I thought magedona was being pretty diplomatic by starting his own thread rather than asking this question on one of the congratulatory threads.
 
Thank you bitter. Wasn't trying to ruffle feathers. Just wanted an honest opinion on the matter. 100 is still cool. Just wondering if it's as cool as it used to be.
 
100 wins is still pretty cool but not a huge deal the way it should be. consider the career wins leader in South Carolina has 261 wins to his name. now the kid was a 4x state champ but i think a kid with 100 wins does need something else on their resume to make it really stand out. a kid with 100 wins and no trips to state, gotta question the competition they face.
 
http://www.scmat.com/SCWrestlingRecords1.htm

link to scmat.com where you can see all the kids who have over 100 wins to a career.

89 wrestlers have 150 wins or more. little excessive IMO. only 3 of those 89 graduated before the year 2000. so since 86 wrestlers have posted 150 plus win careers i'd say match numbers have really picked up over the last 10 years. there's even one kid who won 194 matches and never placed at state.
 
Depends on the team. Some team wrestle a ton of tournaments and get a ton of matches as a result. This makes it a lot easier to accomplish.

Still a good accomplishment but it doesn't mean what it used to.
 
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