Global Warming

[chs1971]

It's Global Warming?

Maybe, I don't know.

It's like transgender. Is it a male who thinks he's a woman or a female that thinks she's a man? I can never remember.

And yeah, I know I'm not supposed to say "he" or "she" anymore because the person being talked about doesn't know what they are so nobody else is allowed to know either so that the confused person doesn't feel bad about themselves, or something.

So global cooling / global warming / climate change / climate catastrophe, AKA "the weather."

 

[bob99]

If these goddamn Democrat pseudo-Greenie Neo-Marxists had a scrap of integrity, they would be pushing hard for net metering and the necessary infrastructure for any American that wanted to install solar panels on their property. We could actually cut fossil fuel generation and thrive at the same time. These people are all about controlling supply and creating misery

I hope solar panels have improved. Mine lasted about 5 years until a hail storm wiped it out.

 

[I enjoy wrestling]

Tonga's volcano sent tons of water into the stratosphere. That could warm the Earth​

Tonga's volcano sent tons of water into the stratosphere. That could warm the Earth

"We've never seen anything like it," said atmospheric scientist Luis Millán, who works at NASA. The vapor sent skyward by the eruption will likely stay in the stratosphere for years.

www.npr.org

Most interesting quote from the article:
"We've never seen anything like it"

Very interesting? I read that and just filed it amongst all the other studies that point to honest science.

 

[cabezadecaballo]

I hope solar panels have improved. Mine lasted about 5 years until a hail storm wiped it out.

Should’ve bought the screen protector.

 

[bob99]

Should’ve bought the screen protector.

Wasn't offered with the package deal. Should have dealt with a different installer. They caught a big one.

 

[lotr10]

Lights out, cold showers in Europe

Lack of planning

hotair.com

 

[lotr10]

Nature is resilient and the Great Barrier reef has seen both a cooling and warming climate in the past:

Surprise – the Australian Great Barrier Reef has “Bounced Back” from Climate Change | Watts Up With That?

I know all of you will be surprised that an organism which survived the dinosaur killer has has shown an unexpected ability to cope with a degree of global warming over the last 172 years.

wattsupwiththat.com

 

[Yappi]

Very interesting? I read that and just filed it amongst all the other studies that point to honest science.

I thought it was interesting because it seems that with climate change, they act like they have seen and accounted for everything. It is refreshing to see someone admit to not knowing everything.

 

[lotr10]

I thought it was interesting because it seems that with climate change, they act like they have seen and accounted for everything. It is refreshing to see someone admit to not knowing everything.

The fact they refuse to acknowledge is that we only understand a tiny fraction of the factors that drive natural climate change. This is why their models are absolute garbage.

 

[lotr10]

Hey Global Warming alarmists you must be really mad at Pelosi. She just gave China an excuse to stop lying about their Climate Change efforts and just build more coal burning power plants and emissions be damned!

China cuts off vital US contacts over Pelosi Taiwan visit

China says it is cutting off dialogue with the U.S. on a range of vital issues from climate change to military relations and anti-narcotics efforts in retaliation for a visit this week to Taiwan by U.S.

apnews.com

China on Friday said it is canceling or suspending dialogue with the United States on a range of issues from climate change

 

[I enjoy wrestling]

Nature is resilient and the Great Barrier reef has seen both a cooling and warming climate in the past:

Surprise – the Australian Great Barrier Reef has “Bounced Back” from Climate Change | Watts Up With That?

I know all of you will be surprised that an organism which survived the dinosaur killer has has shown an unexpected ability to cope with a degree of global warming over the last 172 years.

wattsupwiththat.com

I found this very interesting also

 

[lotr10]

 

[lotr10]

Green technology! Making the world an environmentally safer place!

https://www.globalwitness.org/en/campaigns/natural-resource-governance/myanmars-poisoned-mountains/

Myanmar's poisoned mountains​

The toxic rare earth mining industry at the heart of the global green energy transition​

 

[Yappi]

Lightning, downpours hit Las Vegas again as city sees wettest monsoon season in 10 years​

Las Vegas saw severe flooding and a rash of lightning again Thursday night, with more thunderstorms on the way Friday, as the popular travel destination sees its wettest monsoon season in 10 years. The heavy rain that dumped sheets of water onto the Strip came after the city saw a similar event on July 28 when rain fell inside casinos.

A weather gauge at the Las Vegas airport recorded 0.58 inch in a downpour Thursday night, bringing the total for this year's monsoon season to 1.28 inches, making it the wettest season since 2012, the National Weather Service said.

Las Vegas sees wettest monsoon season in 10 years

Las Vegas saw severe flooding and a rash of lightning again on Thursday night as the travel destination sees its wettest monsoon season in 10 years.

www.sfgate.com

 

[lotr10]

Something EVERY Global Warming alarmist should be made to memorize!

 

[Yappi]

Experts warn California of a disaster 'larger than any in world history.' It's not an earthquake.​

Megadrought may be the main weather concern across the West right now amid the constant threat of wildfires and earthquakes. But a new study warns another crisis is looming in California: "Megafloods."

Climate change is increasing the risk of floods that could submerge cities and displace millions of people across the state, according to a study released Friday.

It says that an extreme monthlong storm could bring feet of rain – in some places, more than 100 inches – to hundreds of miles of California. Similarly unrelenting storms have happened in the past, before the region became home to tens of millions of people.

Experts warn California of a disaster 'larger than any in world history.' It's not an earthquake.

A study says that as the Earth warms, a California flood that would swamp Los Angeles, displace millions and cause historic damage gets more likely.

www.usatoday.com

I thought this was interesting. In the second paragraph, "climate change". In the third paragraph, "happened in the past".

There is nothing that they won't blame climate change for. Mega-drought, climate change. Mega-flood, climate change...

 

[D4fan]

Experts warn California of a disaster 'larger than any in world history.' It's not an earthquake.​

Experts warn California of a disaster 'larger than any in world history.' It's not an earthquake.

A study says that as the Earth warms, a California flood that would swamp Los Angeles, displace millions and cause historic damage gets more likely.

www.usatoday.com

I thought this was interesting. In the second paragraph, "climate change". In the third paragraph, "happened in the past".

There is nothing that they won't blame climate change for. Mega-drought, climate change. Mega-flood, climate change...

I think most rational people agree there is climate change occurring, there always has been.

What we disagree on is why the climate changes. Torrential downpours are happening more often in our little spot on earth. By that I mean rains dumping 5 inches or more in a 4 hour period.

 

[lotr10]

I think most rational people agree there is climate change occurring, there always has been.

What we disagree on is why the climate changes. Torrential downpours are happening more often in our little spot on earth. By that I mean rains dumping 5 inches or more in a 4 hour period.

You would be surprised at how much extreme weather has happened in the past. Of course when terrible flooding occurred in one part of the world you didn't hear about in most other parts of the world.

I'm a frequent visitor to Olympic National Park - IMO it's the most stunning NP in America - but what sticks out was the ranger tour we had of an unusual 500 year old grove of enormous Douglass Firs that was on the west side of the Olympic Mountains. He talked about a decade long drought that was so severe it allowed pockets of Douglass Fir to get established here that otherwise could not have out competed the cedars that thrived in the rain forest like conditions. This drought happened early in 1500's.

Extreme local & regional weather is a common occurrence that has been happening since the Earth developed an atmosphere.

 

[Yorktown]

I think most rational people agree there is climate change occurring, there always has been.

What we disagree on is why the climate changes. Torrential downpours are happening more often in our little spot on earth. By that I mean rains dumping 5 inches or more in a 4 hour period.

Yes.. Climate Change is now used as an excuse to control people.
Extreme weather events have always occurred through out history.
But now there is an opportunity to take power and blame every weather event on human‘s living standards being too high and thus destroying the environment.

 

[lotr10]

Extreme weather events have always occurred through out history.

Yes they have and here's a prime example of one that happened almost 500 years ago:

The European Climate Megadrought – Which Happened 482 Years Ago | Watts Up With That?

A brutal European megadrought in 1540, during the little ice age, brings context to attempts to link the current European heatwave to global warming.

wattsupwiththat.com

Of course the usual suspects on Yappi unable to articulate a data based criticism will screech "WATTS UP WITH THAT". Though they might be better served to actually check out the sources he cited. They look pretty solid to me.

 

[lotr10]

It's hard to take climate change alarmists seriously when they reject the energy producing alternatives to fossil fuels that actually work to reduce carbon emissions. It's clear that what these people are really after is control.

The Green War on Clean Energy

In 2018, a radical new environmental group emerged in the United Kingdom. The loose-knit organization called itself Extinction Rebellion, or “XR,” and aimed to raise awareness of climate change through disruptive protests. XR activists staged dramatic “die-ins” and shut down London bridges and...

www.city-journal.org

Demanding that solar & wind are the only acceptable (religious dogma anyone) alternatives to fossil fuels is the proof you need of their twisted intentions.

 

[irish_buffalo]

Yes they have and here's a prime example of one that happened almost 500 years ago:

The European Climate Megadrought – Which Happened 482 Years Ago | Watts Up With That?

A brutal European megadrought in 1540, during the little ice age, brings context to attempts to link the current European heatwave to global warming.

wattsupwiththat.com

Of course the usual suspects on Yappi unable to articulate a data based criticism will screech "WATTS UP WITH THAT". Though they might be better served to actually check out the sources he cited. They look pretty solid to me.

Eric Worrall...

 

[I enjoy wrestling]

 

[lotr10]

Eric Worrall...

He wrote the article and REFERENCED the supporting information. Do you have a problem with the authors who published the scientific data that Worrel presented in his article?

An underestimated record breaking event – why summer 1540 was likely warmer than 2003
O. Wetter 1,2 and C. Pfister1 1 Oeschger Centre for Climate Change Research, University of Bern, Bern, Switzerland 2 Institute of History, Section of Economic, Social and Environmental History (WSU), University of Bern, Bern, Switzerland Correspondence to: O. Wetter (oliver.wetter@hist.unibe.ch) and C. Pfister (christian.pfister@hist.unibe.ch)
Received: 13 June 2012 – Published in Clim.
Past Discuss.: 20 July 2012
Revised: 11 December 2012 – Accepted: 12 December 2012 – Published: 14 January 2013
Abstract. The heat of summer 2003 in Western and Central Europe was claimed to be unprecedented since the Middle Ages on the basis of grape harvest data (GHD) and late wood maximum density (MXD) data from trees in the Alps. This paper shows that the authors of these studies overlooked the fact that the heat and drought in Switzerland in 1540 likely exceeded the amplitude of the previous hottest summer of 2003, because the persistent temperature and precipitation anomaly in that year, described in an abundant and coherent body of documentary evidence, severely affected the reliability of GHD and tree-rings as proxy-indicators for temperature estimates. Spring–summer (AMJJ) temperature anomalies of 4.7 ◦C to 6.8 ◦C being significantly higher than in 2003 were assessed for 1540 from a new long Swiss GHD series (1444 to 2011). During the climax of the heat wave in early August the grapes desiccated on the vine, which caused many vine-growers to interrupt or postpone the harvest despite full grape maturity until after the next spell of rain. Likewise, the leaves of many trees withered and fell to the ground under extreme drought stress as would usually be expected in late autumn. It remains to be determined by further research whether and how far this result obtained from local analyses can be spatially extrapolated. Based on the temperature estimates for Switzerland it is assumed from a great number of coherent qualitative documentary evidence about the outstanding heat drought in 1540 that AMJJ temperatures were likely more extreme in neighbouring regions of Western and Central Europe than in 2003. Considering the significance of soil moisture deficits for record breaking heat waves, these results still need to be validated with estimated seasonal precipitation. It is concluded that biological proxy data may not properly reveal record breaking heat and drought events. Such assessments thus need to be complemented with the critical study of contemporary evidence from documentary sources which provide coherent and detailed data about weather extremes and related impacts on human, ecological and social systems.
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Read more (requires email registration): https://www.academia.edu/26112640/Climate_of_the_Past

Central Europe, 1531–1540 CE: The driest summer decade of the past five centuries?
Rudolf Brázdil 1,2, Petr Dobrovolný 1,2, Martin Bauch 3, Chantal Camenisch 4,5, Andrea Kiss 6,7, 5 Oldřich Kotyza 8, Piotr Oliński 9, Ladislava Řezníčková 1,2
1 Institute of Geography, Masaryk University, Brno, Czech Republic
2 Global Change Research Institute, Czech Academy of Sciences, Brno, Czech Republic
3 Leibniz Institute for the History and Culture of Eastern Europe (GWZO), Leipzig, Germany
10 4 Oeschger Centre for Climate Change Research, University of Bern, Bern, Switzerland 5Institute of History, University of Bern, Bern, Switzerland
6 Institute for Hydraulic Engineering and Water Resources Management, Vienna University of Technology, Vienna, Austria
7 Department of Historical Auxiliary Sciences, Institute of History, University of Szeged, 15 Hungary
8 Regional Museum, Litoměřice, Czech Republic
9 Institute of History and Archival Sciences, University of Toruń, Poland
Correspondence to: Rudolf Brázdil (brazdil@sci.muni.cz) 20
Abstract. Based on three drought indices (SPI, SPEI, Z-index) reconstructed from the documentary evidence and instrumental records, the summers of 1531–1540 were identified as the driest summer decade during the 1501–2015 period in the Czech Lands. Based on documentary data, extended from the Czech scale to central Europe, dry patterns of various intensities (represented, for example, by dry spells, low numbers of precipitation days, very low rivers and drying-out of water sources) occurred in 1532, 1534–1536, 1538 and particularly 1540, broken by wetter or normal patterns in 1531, 1533, 1537 and 1539. Information relevant to summer droughts extracted from documentary data in central Europe were confirmed in summer precipitation totals from a multi-proxy reconstruction for Europe by Pauling et al. (2006) and further by self-calibrated summer PDSI reconstruction from tree- ring widths in OWDA by Cook et al. (2015). The summer patterns described are consistent with the distribution of sea-level pressure deviations from a modern reference period. Summer droughts were responsible for numerous negative impacts, such as bad harvests of certain crops, reduction and lack of water sources, and frequent forest fires, while in the wetter summers central Europe was affected by floods. However, there are no indications of severe impacts of multi-country or multi-year effect. Reconstructions based on documentary data indicate that the summers of 1531–1540 constitute the driest summer decade in central Europe for the past five centuries, between 1501 and 2010 CE.

 

[irish_buffalo]

He wrote the article and REFERENCED the supporting information. Do you have a problem with the authors who published the scientific data that Worrel presented in his article?

It is an "essay" by their own admission. Anyone can cherry pick the data, which is something he always does, to prove their point. You people always talk about the scientific process but continue to cite blog posts as fact.

 

[OldSoulon]

I hope solar panels have improved. Mine lasted about 5 years until a hail storm wiped it out.

Give Joe Biden a call...if you spend $75K on a new setup, he'll kick 8 grand or so back to you.

 

[OldSoulon]

Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions - Competitive Enterprise Institute

Modern doomsayers have been predicting climate and environmental disaster since the 1960s. They continue to do so today. None of the apocalyptic predictions with due dates as of today have come true. What follows is a collection of notably wild predictions from notable people in government and...

cei.org

The scientific process is in large part about observation.

I post this again as we have observed at least 50 years of failed climate predictions based on people's "science".

I have facts behind me.

The people who tell you the "world will end in 15 years unless..." don't have facts or science to stand on.

 

[Crusaders]

Activists conflating weather and climate is as much of an issue as deniers conflating long term global changes with localized or regional events.

 

[I enjoy wrestling]

Activists conflating weather and climate is as much of an issue as deniers conflating long term global changes with localized or regional events.

Deniers of what? Something that is settled?

 

[Crusaders]

Deniers of what? Something that is settled?

There are still those out there trying to claim the climate isn’t changing.