zeeman
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They are! It’s going to be interestingEvery single one of those people should be filing a religious or medical exemption or both at every applicable office, and ride it out until the very end.
don’t blink.
They are! It’s going to be interestingEvery single one of those people should be filing a religious or medical exemption or both at every applicable office, and ride it out until the very end.
don’t blink.
I’m hopeful that they will follow suit but not yetAre they allowing exemptions if you have antibodies? Hospitals in Dayton are doing that.
You making minimum wage yet?I feel so strongly about Covid vaccines that it's crept into my job performance and work relationships. Oh wait, no it hasn't. So far this year I've received two performance bonuses and the maximum possible merit raise, so....
He is misinformed when it comes to nurses and nursing assistants. It’s about 30% for nurses and far less for nursing assistants. Or he is lying, either way he will continue to scream at the skyDude, TP told us 98% doctors and 88% of nurses are ESTIMATED vaxxed, I trust him.
When Cuomo had the media on his side, he manipulated Trump to get extra ventilators. Now Biden withholds treatments, and the media barely pays attention. That’s patheticBiden Admin Send Less than Half the Antibody Treatment to Florida
The Biden administration this week slashed the doses of lifesaving coronavirus antibody treatment to Florida.www.breitbart.com
Some of you know my thoughts already. Get to work POS President
If you’d actually been reading other peoples posts along the way, at least with some measure of intellectual curiosity, you’d be able to answer that question yourself, goof.Marine- “I would rather quit than be forced to get the vaccine”
government- “You already got the vaccines for malaria, dengue, chicken pox, cholera, measles, mumps and rubella in order to join the military. How is this different”?
Marine- ?
Ha, goof. ?If you’d actually been reading other peoples posts along the way, at least with some measure of intellectual curiosity, you’d be able to answer that question yourself, goof.
One way thinkingWhen Cuomo had the media on his side, he manipulated Trump to get extra ventilators. Now Biden withholds treatments, and the media barely pays attention. That’s pathetic
Yep, virtue signaling is a great resume enhancer. lolI wouldn't hire them if they advertise they are vaccinated. Has no bearing on them being able to do their jobs.
In fact, they are likely to be whiny little brats like you, slappy, hairball, and the rest of the ladies. No thanks.
did Vanity Fair give you those estimates?And estimated 98% of doctors are vaccinated. And 88% of nurses. Seems pretty overwhelming to me. So no, it isn't sorta interesting, at all. At least not as interesting as who you're hitching your wagon to. Not that's interesting.
And they are for vastly different viruses.Big difference those vaccines did not kill thousands of people or give them side effects such as blood clots : https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...eaction-Moderna-vaccine-never-ride-again.html
Crazy to mandate and look at this example. TerribleBig difference those vaccines did not kill thousands of people or give them side effects such as blood clots : https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...eaction-Moderna-vaccine-never-ride-again.html
Well to start with covid is exponentially less dangerous to this marine then malaria, dengue, chicken pox, cholera, measles, mumps and rubella.
Do the marines mandate the Shingles vaccine?
For this morning's entertainment, please explain how/why each of those are more lethal or worthy of vaccination than covid?
FFS ?For this morning's entertainment, please explain how/why each of those are more lethal or worthy of vaccination than covid?
"For this morning's entertainment"For this morning's entertainment, please explain how/why each of those are more lethal or worthy of vaccination than covid?
My company does work for numerous health care providers across the country. Some allow an exemption, some do not. One large and prestigious one even allows a "philosophical" exemption (why have an exemption right? lol).Every single one of those people should be filing a religious or medical exemption or both at every applicable office, and ride it out until the very end.
don’t blink.
I'll take it a step further and say herd immunity. Gear up hospitals with drugs to treat patients. Make treating patients a national emergency and let's get this thing done. Imo We need every single body in health care. No mandating vaccines.My company does work for numerous health care providers across the country. Some allow an exemption, some do not. One large and prestigious one even allows a "philosophical" exemption (why have an exemption right? lol).
zeeman's 30% is about spot on. We are in the midst of a labor shortage and owners are mandating vaccines making matters worse which of course is all a reaction to the Federal policies. Taking 30% away from an already depleted labor market is not wise. Manufacturing plants to universities are mandating vaccinations because the alternative is constant quarantines. It will be interesting to see who wins out. I imagine some people will protest and collect unemployment but eventually, in order to make a living, will have to get the vax.
I've said all along that I understood the caution in the beginning but Covid needs to be treated like the flu at this point and things like quarantines and mandates need to go away.
IB, I respect your opinion as a moderate Democrat. I would like to ask, when you see other Dems (maybe even on this board) basically condemning nonCovid vaxxed (I don’t like to say anti vaxxers because there is a large segment that aren’t against vaccines in general, just this experimental one), does it make you shake your head about the hypocrisy of choice? Many on this board have said from the get go that it’s not about the vaccine so much, rather the right to choose.My company does work for numerous health care providers across the country. Some allow an exemption, some do not. One large and prestigious one even allows a "philosophical" exemption (why have an exemption right? lol).
zeeman's 30% is about spot on. We are in the midst of a labor shortage and owners are mandating vaccines making matters worse which of course is all a reaction to the Federal policies. Taking 30% away from an already depleted labor market is not wise. Manufacturing plants to universities are mandating vaccinations because the alternative is constant quarantines. It will be interesting to see who wins out. I imagine some people will protest and collect unemployment but eventually, in order to make a living, will have to get the vax.
I've said all along that I understood the caution in the beginning but Covid needs to be treated like the flu at this point and things like quarantines and mandates need to go away.
IEW nailed it. It has become so overly political. I do not think anyone should be forcing someone to do something like this. I'm actually against abortion because facts show the fetus as a living being. It is not like getting a mole removed. I also think it is a wedge issue and do not let it drive all of my political decisions and of course is apples to oranges when it comes to comparing it to the vaccine outside of the whole "choice" BS.IB, I respect your opinion as a moderate Democrat. I would like to ask, when you see other Dems (maybe even on this board) basically condemning nonCovid vaxxed (I don’t like to say anti vaxxers because there is a large segment that aren’t against vaccines in general, just this experimental one), does it make you shake your head about the hypocrisy of choice? Many on this board have said from the get go that it’s not about the vaccine so much, rather the right to choose.
When comparing both Pubs and Demos across the hypocrisy lines, it is very difficult. Many Pubs support the right to choose vaccine status but not abortion choice for example. Demos support the right to choose except in matters they deem a “public health emergency”. Philosophically it’s tough to grapple with.
I know you didn't ask me, but here is a problem.When comparing both Pubs and Demos across the hypocrisy lines, it is very difficult. Many Pubs support the right to choose vaccine status but not abortion choice for example. Demos support the right to choose except in matters they deem a “public health emergency”. Philosophically it’s tough to grapple with.
Careful....they will Nikki manaj you with this common sense.My company does work for numerous health care providers across the country. Some allow an exemption, some do not. One large and prestigious one even allows a "philosophical" exemption (why have an exemption right? lol).
zeeman's 30% is about spot on. We are in the midst of a labor shortage and owners are mandating vaccines making matters worse which of course is all a reaction to the Federal policies. Taking 30% away from an already depleted labor market is not wise. Manufacturing plants to universities are mandating vaccinations because the alternative is constant quarantines. It will be interesting to see who wins out. I imagine some people will protest and collect unemployment but eventually, in order to make a living, will have to get the vax.
I've said all along that I understood the caution in the beginning but Covid needs to be treated like the flu at this point and things like quarantines and mandates need to go away.
Progress, for you, I guess. Good.My company does work for numerous health care providers across the country. Some allow an exemption, some do not. One large and prestigious one even allows a "philosophical" exemption (why have an exemption right? lol).
zeeman's 30% is about spot on. We are in the midst of a labor shortage and owners are mandating vaccines making matters worse which of course is all a reaction to the Federal policies. Taking 30% away from an already depleted labor market is not wise. Manufacturing plants to universities are mandating vaccinations because the alternative is constant quarantines. It will be interesting to see who wins out. I imagine some people will protest and collect unemployment but eventually, in order to make a living, will have to get the vax.
I've said all along that I understood the caution in the beginning but Covid needs to be treated like the flu at this point and things like quarantines and mandates need to go away.
My company does work for numerous health care providers across the country. Some allow an exemption, some do not. One large and prestigious one even allows a "philosophical" exemption (why have an exemption right? lol).
zeeman's 30% is about spot on. We are in the midst of a labor shortage and owners are mandating vaccines making matters worse which of course is all a reaction to the Federal policies. Taking 30% away from an already depleted labor market is not wise. Manufacturing plants to universities are mandating vaccinations because the alternative is constant quarantines. It will be interesting to see who wins out. I imagine some people will protest and collect unemployment but eventually, in order to make a living, will have to get the vax.
I've said all along that I understood the caution in the beginning but Covid needs to be treated like the flu at this point and things like quarantines and mandates need to go away.
Obviously anyone can respond, I just wanted to get IBs take because he is a Demo (albeit a much more traditional one).I know you didn't ask me, but here is a problem.
This is not a political issue about taking the vaccine. PERIOD! They media and politicians are making it political.
People are revolting from mandates all over the world. I'm not getting the vaccine. I respect anyone that has. We have made it a point to have our 92 year old inlaw vaxed. My mother of 77 years is vaxed. I don't want the chemicals in My body at this point in time.
as an alternative to testing weekly or proof of vaccine, you should be able to provide proof that you have had a positive test in the past. Reinfection rates are fairly low.Btw irish I also agree w/ you on no federal vaccine mandate, for non-employees. Have said so before. Despite the countless lives saved over how many decades we have never had one, and don't have one. We may disagree however whether testing is a reasonable option to mandate, in lieu of a vaccine. I think it is. As well as strongly encouraging it. And supporting the overwhelming opinion of medical community.
I think the VAST majority of private employers want it. Many have already enacted them, including Fox of all people, others are more leery of making their views known. I think providing them cover was definitely part of the admin's calculation. We all want the same thing. Full economic recovery. (well... maybe).
The sheer callousness of the pro-vax crowd is disheartening. Whatever thread it was (they all run together now) where Slap posted a story about the clown lady that died, that’s awful humanity. Especially for the side that proclaims “to care”, except it’s with the caveat “as long as you’re doing it our way”. I’m sure there are awful conservative websites that I’m unaware of, just speaking on what I saw with this case. We’re at the point where we’re celebrating a death because one side or the other believes it proves their point? Lunacy.