cabezadecaballo
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I'm going to start a thread with two posts from the NFL forum, because I think that the comments they inspire from me leads to a discussion that belongs in the Debate Forum. We don't want our Yappi moderators to be over-worked!! Here goes:
So true, both of you.
Here is the real deal. Feel free to copy-and-paste (*but not publish* ), because THIS is the gospel.
As the emphasis in HC hires has shifted away from defensive-minded coaches, the racists that like to observe and report on the race of coaches have decided that, IN A ONE YEAR SAMPLE SIZE, an insufficient number of black NFL head coaches have been hired.
These racists have briefly indulged in a rational thought process for a single step forward in the realization that there are not a lot of black OCs, and then the racists have immediately leapt off of the path of reason. The racists have further decided that this disparity of black OCs is due to some sort of unfair practice, thinking, or collusion.
That's all that I've heard expressly stated alongside of the notion that "The Rooney Rule doesn't go far enough!!" - the new battle cry - but it isn't hard to connect the dots. We can therefore assume that the racists want every NFL team with an OC vacancy to commit to interviewing at least one black OC candidate. It's how "the program" progresses in their fantasy world.
It's absurd, but whatever. Y'all are either conditioned fools in self-denial or race-baiting turds looking for an unfair advantage. I don't really see a third group coalescing from the soup of public chatter, but I'm open to suggestions.
Each one of these NFL teams want to win above all else unless they are tanking, truly. Duh. Winning is where the money is. Winning is where the glory is. The only possible exception is an owner goof that, coincidentally or not, had employed a black head coach for 16 seasons. (Occam's razor, dips. Think, for God's sake.) They all evaluate and interview candidates equally, accepting blacks on an equal footing. The racial distribution of those employed only reflects the talent pool. Period.
Ken Carman discussed this a little while back, and he is on to something. This isn't an NFL problem, it's a simple cultural values disparity augmented by a general difference in our physical gifts. More white players that have enough passion and ability to be high achievers at the HS playing level realize sooner in life that they don't have a future in the NFL, so they begin looking at coaching as a career over the dream of a career as an NFL player.
Fleshing out Carman's observations that he based upon growing up with the McDaniel's boys and playing for their father, then add that the game itself rewards physical gifts of outlier-level speed and outlier-level quick strength more greatly at the positions that require the least amount of study and the most instinctive behavior - carrying the ball, catching the ball on the outside, and defense in general.
White guys that loved the game enough to hang in for hard study and hard training hang in at QB, TE and O-line, positions where being a step slow or lacking a bit of twitch can be overcome in competition for a bit longer. These are the player positions that lead to developing the mind of an offensive coordinator. Maybe they also work a bit harder on academics, because they start to sense at a younger age that they may need a "real job".
Then, eventually, too small, too slow, too short, inadequate arm - whatever - takes over. The dream of rising above the rest as a player dies and some of these guys love the game so much that they look at coaching as their career and they take a GA job. Therefore a large, racially disproportionate group of white players possessing established relationships with head coaches get a head start at the coaching positions. Larger numbers of whites then become more accomplished offensive position coaches at a younger age, they diversify their coaching experience on the offensive side of the ball. Thus they interview better and they advance to coordinator positions.
It is that simple, and there is nothing more to it.
The blacks that now cry about coaching numbers are simply racists looking for another head-count based adavantage because they don't want to admit that they didn't put the work in. Or they are cry-babies. F__ them.
Folks, it's 2019. I've never looked at a head coach, pro or college and noticed if he's black or white? There isn't an industry in American, other than the NBA, where there are more blacks than pro football. Why does this continue to be an issue? Why is there even a Rooney rule??
Marvin Lewis...head coach of the Bengals for 15 YEARS!!!! Never won a playoff game!!! It's time to stop these shenanigans. NFL owners are going to hire the men who give them the best chance to...WIN, period!!!
the Rooney Rule wasn't necessarily established to make sure more minorities actually BECAME head coaches, but so that more minorities were given the opportunity to at least interview for those positions.
people get up in arms that more minorities aren't hired, but like you said, if i'm down to two candidates and one is black, and the other is white, and i'm trying to decide between the two, race has ZERO to do with it. to reiterate: it's about who i think gives my team the best chance to WIN, period.
So true, both of you.
Here is the real deal. Feel free to copy-and-paste (*but not publish* ), because THIS is the gospel.
As the emphasis in HC hires has shifted away from defensive-minded coaches, the racists that like to observe and report on the race of coaches have decided that, IN A ONE YEAR SAMPLE SIZE, an insufficient number of black NFL head coaches have been hired.
These racists have briefly indulged in a rational thought process for a single step forward in the realization that there are not a lot of black OCs, and then the racists have immediately leapt off of the path of reason. The racists have further decided that this disparity of black OCs is due to some sort of unfair practice, thinking, or collusion.
That's all that I've heard expressly stated alongside of the notion that "The Rooney Rule doesn't go far enough!!" - the new battle cry - but it isn't hard to connect the dots. We can therefore assume that the racists want every NFL team with an OC vacancy to commit to interviewing at least one black OC candidate. It's how "the program" progresses in their fantasy world.
It's absurd, but whatever. Y'all are either conditioned fools in self-denial or race-baiting turds looking for an unfair advantage. I don't really see a third group coalescing from the soup of public chatter, but I'm open to suggestions.
Each one of these NFL teams want to win above all else unless they are tanking, truly. Duh. Winning is where the money is. Winning is where the glory is. The only possible exception is an owner goof that, coincidentally or not, had employed a black head coach for 16 seasons. (Occam's razor, dips. Think, for God's sake.) They all evaluate and interview candidates equally, accepting blacks on an equal footing. The racial distribution of those employed only reflects the talent pool. Period.
Ken Carman discussed this a little while back, and he is on to something. This isn't an NFL problem, it's a simple cultural values disparity augmented by a general difference in our physical gifts. More white players that have enough passion and ability to be high achievers at the HS playing level realize sooner in life that they don't have a future in the NFL, so they begin looking at coaching as a career over the dream of a career as an NFL player.
Fleshing out Carman's observations that he based upon growing up with the McDaniel's boys and playing for their father, then add that the game itself rewards physical gifts of outlier-level speed and outlier-level quick strength more greatly at the positions that require the least amount of study and the most instinctive behavior - carrying the ball, catching the ball on the outside, and defense in general.
White guys that loved the game enough to hang in for hard study and hard training hang in at QB, TE and O-line, positions where being a step slow or lacking a bit of twitch can be overcome in competition for a bit longer. These are the player positions that lead to developing the mind of an offensive coordinator. Maybe they also work a bit harder on academics, because they start to sense at a younger age that they may need a "real job".
Then, eventually, too small, too slow, too short, inadequate arm - whatever - takes over. The dream of rising above the rest as a player dies and some of these guys love the game so much that they look at coaching as their career and they take a GA job. Therefore a large, racially disproportionate group of white players possessing established relationships with head coaches get a head start at the coaching positions. Larger numbers of whites then become more accomplished offensive position coaches at a younger age, they diversify their coaching experience on the offensive side of the ball. Thus they interview better and they advance to coordinator positions.
It is that simple, and there is nothing more to it.
The blacks that now cry about coaching numbers are simply racists looking for another head-count based adavantage because they don't want to admit that they didn't put the work in. Or they are cry-babies. F__ them.