Massillon Tigers to play Valdosta in NE Ohio Classic

Maxie said:
Or some teams from less than average leagues. I like the Tigers‘ schedules.
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PUUUULEEESE don't take this wrongly, BUT. It's my humble opine that Massillon is afraid to play a demanding out of state schedule. They seem to prefer to be a big fish in a mudhole. EXHIBIT A, two of the top four winningest teams in the COUNTRY, reside in OLE KENTUCK. And Brentwood Academy, Tenn. is a lil further down the road as well. And lest we not forget St. Joesph Prep in Philly.
 
ER8868 said:
This will be an interesting game and not sure why Ohio doesn’t do more games likes this. Great for kids and for football in our State. Good Luck Massillon!
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They had the Herbstreit Classic Many years ago that was great but you're right they need more of this .
 
SWGA Fan said:
PUUUULEEESE don't take this wrongly, BUT. It's my humble opine that Massillon is afraid to play a demanding out of state schedule. They seem to prefer to be a big fish in a mudhole. EXHIBIT A, two of the top four winningest teams in the COUNTRY, reside in OLE KENTUCK. And Brentwood Academy, Tenn. is a lil further down the road as well. And lest we not forget St. Joesph Prep in Philly.
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LOL. A game with Louisville Male MIGHT be competitive. A game with Mayfield WOULD NOT. The Cardinals are in the second smallest division in Kentucky. By the way, the Tigers have only played one Kentucky team in it’s history. That occurred in 1990, when the Tigers defeated a 9-1 Covington Catholic team in Cincinnati. The score was 39-14.
 
MassillonTigers3 said:
Massillon in the 60’s was a different animal as well
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WELL, Valdosta is not even considered a top twenty team in Georgia at this writing. My lil school beat them at THEIR place last season, 24-6. They finished 8-3 and third in Region 1-7A out of five region teams.

As for Massillon being a different animal in the sixties. How many playoff wins did the Tigers garner during that time?
Sykotyk said:
First, what Blank did to the GHSA was awful. But I've been to titles at Georgia State and it's been okay.

Secondly, don't be fooled by Jerry Jones. He collects nothing in rent, but collects a portion on all tickets sold, collects ALL concessions and parking fees. It's $20 to park at Jerry World. And you can figure what the concessions are.

Other than the Covid year, he's made a ridiculous amount of money on the UIL finals. Enough people in Texas have compared the Houston proposal to the Cowboys proposal for the finals, and most years Houston would make more money. But Houston wants rent money up front, and it's worse than what Georgia wants. However, at the end of the weekend, they'd have more money from tickets than Texas charges. Concessions and parking are still only for the host, not the UIL.
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You think Georgia State is the cat's meow, because you are used to crappy weather up North.

And don't quote me on this BUT. I believe that Blank and associates reap all revues from the GHSA state playoffs, except ticket sales. (Game programs, concessions, and parking)
 
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SWGA Fan said:
PUUUULEEESE don't take this wrongly, BUT. It's my humble opine that Massillon is afraid to play a demanding out of state schedule. They seem to prefer to be a big fish in a mudhole. EXHIBIT A, two of the top four winningest teams in the COUNTRY, reside in OLE KENTUCK. And Brentwood Academy, Tenn. is a lil further down the road as well. And lest we not forget St. Joesph Prep in Philly.
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Lakeland (FL) is willing to travel to Massillon and they still won’t except the game
 
Egret said:
I rest my case. To enlighten you Lakeland is in the middle of the state and is known for orange groves, vegetable pickers, and the headquarters of Publix Supermarkets. Oh, and their resident English Professor NaughtLife98. LOL.
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Lol *typo.. Lakeland is also 1-0 vs Ohio hsfb don’t forget to add that
 
SWGA Fan said:
You think Georgia State is the cat's meow, because you are used to crappy weather up North.

And don't quote me on this BUT. I believe that Blank and associates reap all revues from the GHSA state playoffs, except ticket prices. (Game programs, concessions, and parking)
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I saw this a while ago, and was going to reply but didn't get around to it. But, it has to be said.

First, don't put words in my mouth. I said it was 'okay'. Not 'the cat's meow'. It's a baseball stadium in an overpriced city in an underwhelming state. I was there the year the first day rained and was in the high 30s. It's a perfectly average place to hold games that's not indoors. The worst weather I ever experienced has been in the south. 'crappy' is in the eye of the beholder. 90 with 95% humidity is a lot worse than 40, cold, and a mist. I'll take that anyday over the EZ Bake Oven that is Georgia in the summer.

Secondly, your comment about Blank.... Let me type this out slowly. THAT. IS. HOW. ALL. RENTAL. CONTRACTS. ARE. WRITTEN.

Even Jerry Jones. The host keeps all the ancillary revenue. The only thing special about AT&T Stadium is that Jerry Jones charges a small fee per ticket sold and not an upfront lump sum payment to host. However, based on ticket sales, he actually makes more money than if he charged $150k a day. And that's just on tickets. He then gets $20 per car for parking and the ridiculous cost of food there. And he also makes money selling the luxury boxes for the games. All over which the UIL doesn't benefit.

The tickets at GSU when I went were $23 a day plus $10 to park. If you can't afford MBS at those prices, then that's on the GHSA just wanting to be cheap. I commend them for it. Gives them more money for other things. And Blank could've charged a more reasonable rate for the venue. Hell, Corky Kell still plays there on Saturdays.

GHSA could if they wanted to. Was it high? Yes. Was it impossible? No. They're just being frugal.

Part of the problem was not making it part of the contract that they MUST host the GHSA finals. In Minnesota, the MSHSL is, by law, given the stadium for a minimum of 7 days a year for free. The Vikings themselves must host the MSHSL events. They don't have a choice and can't force them to pay.

In Indiana, the Lucas Oil Stadium is managed by the Capital Improvement Board. I've talked to them. A lot of the NFL policies that venues must follow even when the NFL isn't playing aren't followed there. Because they have ultimate authority over the venue. Which is why/how the IHSAA hosts their finals there. Though to be fair, even though they're forced to host the finals, the Colts are gracious hosts and have been sponsors of the IHSAA playoffs over the years and really try to make it seem that it's their choice to be hosting the finals. Which I guess is great for a marketing point of view. Make the most of it. Plus, Indiana does pretty well at the finals. Averaging between 40-50k a day for the two days (3 games a day). That's not a bad setup.

Meanwhile, in Ohio, both of the NFL stadiums have seen very few HS games over the years because 1) no turf originally and 2) no requirement that either stadium be used in such a manner and hosted by the Browns or Bengals.

Even New Jersey uses MetLife Stadium. I still can't find the exact language of their rights to use it, but their ticket fees are incredibly cheap if you know how expensive New Jersey is in general. This was the first year of true 'state wide' playoff championships, In the past they just had region championships. Tickets for MetLife (and are good for all the games that day) were $15 for adults. But only $3 for students and senior citizens. When I went back in 2014 they were still just $9 for adults. That's insanely cheap. Part of it is that in a small state like theirs, the state doesn't pay a travel stipend for participating schools. And if a school wants to play in the playoffs, it's a $90 fee to participate to the school. Also, no travel reimbursed for playoff games, either. Though tickets are strictly regulated. Playoff games can't cost more than $3. Except for the finals.
 
From someone who was born and raised in GA--and my high school played Valdosta pretty much every year: do not underestimate them. They are dangerous. Even though they are not as good this season they are still Valdosta. (Anyone who knows this team knows the meaning of that sentence). I remember when people talked about Valdosta in hushed tones...like they would be whacked or something. Y'all need to make sure your boys are taped up real good and super-vigilant about Valdosta's players' moves. Can't say more than that, I'll get whacked. Not kidding. Just sayin', ok?
 
No doubt fireflyer. Massillon has been tracking/following Valdosta for several years for obvious reasons. Their national #1 win total speaks for itself and we have tremendous respect for them and have been waiting for this. Do NOT worry about this game being underhyped around these parts, I assure you. We'll be ready.
 
SWGA Fan said:
PUUUULEEESE don't take this wrongly, BUT. It's my humble opine that Massillon is afraid to play a demanding out of state schedule. They seem to prefer to be a big fish in a mudhole. EXHIBIT A, two of the top four winningest teams in the COUNTRY, reside in OLE KENTUCK. And Brentwood Academy, Tenn. is a lil further down the road as well. And lest we not forget St. Joesph Prep in Philly.
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Dude, stop making “pre excuses”. If they’ve dropped off then they shouldn’t be involved in these discussions of “best programs in the country”. Longevity and consistency are the top two trademarks when discussing “best programs”. Looks to me like Valdosta is hanging on to the all times wins by a gnats eyelash! A little trivia gang….who coined that phrase “gnats eyelash”
 
Egret said:
Bro, come on. The Old Gunner Bob Prince.

***Disclaimer*** - I'm old. LOL
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Bug on the rug! The gunner was the best. I find my self searching the internet for some of his calls. Back in the days when the Bucs were in their glory was the Massillon area full of pirate fans or did they gravitate to the Indians more?
 

Dad took us to a WS game @ Three Rivers Stadium.


Chicken on the hill with Will (Stargell), It's a can of corn (Hated the steelers, Loved the Pirates)
 
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I hope the Tigers put a running clock on Valdosta! Any time an Ohio team plays out of state opponents, I hope for the Ohio team to put a running clock them. :cool:

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